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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 9:59 AM ET
Berggren will be good, im suprised he is so low on most lists.
- phyllee

I never saw him play other then at u18s. He played 10 games in the SHL and didnt score.

My thought is, i wonder if scouts think his skill isnt translatable to the NHL and thats why he isnt viewed as a first rounder.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 10 @ 10:20 AM ET
I never saw him play other then at u18s. He played 10 games in the SHL and didnt score.

My thought is, i wonder if scouts think his skill isnt translatable to the NHL and thats why he isnt viewed as a first rounder.

- manvanfan


Thats true, could be another Dahlen type player, dont think hed drop to 37 but could be a steal.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 10:52 AM ET
Thats true, could be another Dahlen type player, dont think hed drop to 37 but could be a steal.
- phyllee

Dahlen dropped because of his skating they said.

Im thinking more like Aleksi Heponiemi from last season. Berggren weighs more but same sort of skill set. Went 40th last season.

 

phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 10 @ 11:01 AM ET
Dahlen dropped because of his skating they said.

Im thinking more like Aleksi Heponiemi from last season. Berggren weighs more but same sort of skill set. Went 40th last season.

 

- manvanfan


That would be awesome, him or Tychonick would be a win
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 10 @ 11:10 AM ET
That would be awesome, him or Tychonick would be a win
- phyllee

Id like another pick in the top half of the 2nd round. Get both.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 10 @ 11:10 AM ET
Glad to hear you've come around on Button, he's a freaking charlaten
- neem55


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doPyoNjlwoU

He always brags about how he had Boeser in his top 10. Yet, in his final mock draft he has him going 26th to MTL.

So, maybe in his actually rankings he has him top 10? But then why have him go 26th in a mock? I like Craig, but....
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 10 @ 11:13 AM ET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doPyoNjlwoU

He always brags about how he had Boeser in his top 10. Yet, in his final mock draft he has him going 26th to MTL.

So, maybe in his actually rankings he has him top 10? But then why have him go 26th in a mock? I like Craig, but....

- storm88

BUt he flips and he flops so much.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 10 @ 11:21 AM ET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doPyoNjlwoU

He always brags about how he had Boeser in his top 10. Yet, in his final mock draft he has him going 26th to MTL.

So, maybe in his actually rankings he has him top 10? But then why have him go 26th in a mock? I like Craig, but....

- storm88


I'm not a fan of button but having him at 10 in his ranking and 26 in his mock makes complete sense if he's claiming he saw something in him other teams didn't.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 10 @ 11:35 AM ET
I'm not a fan of button but having him at 10 in his ranking and 26 in his mock makes complete sense if he's claiming he saw something in him other teams didn't.
- belcherbd

I heard a rumour that Montreal is looking to draft a centre and its Kotkaniemi. That would really change things.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 10 @ 11:57 AM ET
I heard a rumour that Montreal is looking to draft a centre and its Kotkaniemi. That would really change things.
- thundachunk


If they want Kotkaniemi they should trade up IMO.
I can see them going Tkachuk at 3 but Kotkaniemi is pretty out there.

Is 7 + 37 worth 3? The fancy stats say yes but I would still likely rather 2 shots on the top 40.

thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 10 @ 12:08 PM ET
If they want Kotkaniemi they should trade up IMO.
I can see them going Tkachuk at 3 but Kotkaniemi is pretty out there.

Is 7 + 37 worth 3? The fancy stats say yes but I would still likely rather 2 shots on the top 40.

- belcherbd

I think it is but everyone here has a different idea who is best at 3. I think I would rather stay and hopefully get another late 1st or early 2nd round pick with a trade. Kotkaniemi is not a far stretch at 3.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 10 @ 12:13 PM ET
I hope we pick Vitali Kravtsov at 7.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 10 @ 12:15 PM ET
If they want Kotkaniemi they should trade up IMO.
I can see them going Tkachuk at 3 but Kotkaniemi is pretty out there.

Is 7 + 37 worth 3? The fancy stats say yes but I would still likely rather 2 shots on the top 40.

- belcherbd

No trading picks!!
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 10 @ 12:22 PM ET
I hope we pick Vitali Kravtsov at 7.
- thundachunk

Are you on acid?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 10 @ 12:28 PM ET
Are you on acid?
- CanuckDon

That might be a good idea for draft day.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 10 @ 12:30 PM ET
No trading picks!!
- Marwood


I had a dream last night we traded the 7OA for Hanifin. JB was pumping his fists. Waddell was laughing in background.

I gotta think they keep the pick, right?

thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 10 @ 12:36 PM ET
Are you on acid?
- CanuckDon

Coffee!

The kid isn’t getting enough attention. He set a record for the points as a junior playing in the KHL playoffs. His skating is amazing. Puck skills are no different. His hockey IQ is up there with Dahlin’s.The main factor he isn’t going top 10 is the Russian one. A factor which affects us most of all because of Tryamkin.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 10 @ 12:42 PM ET
I had a dream last night we traded the 7OA for Hanifin. JB was pumping his fists. Waddell was laughing in background.

I gotta think they keep the pick, right?


- storm88

If it’s Hanafin for the 7th and nothing’s more then it’s a good trade for us but as soon as we start adding more it’s not good.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 10 @ 12:44 PM ET
I had a terrifying nightmare last night we traded the 7OA for Hanifin. JB was pumping his fists. Waddell was laughing in background.

I gotta think they keep the pick, right?


- storm88

I think this is what you meant.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 10 @ 12:48 PM ET
If it’s Hanafin for the 7th and nothing’s more then it’s a good trade for us but as soon as we start adding more it’s not good.
- thundachunk

I don't trust Benning's pro scouting/trading at all. Therefore it will be a bad trade.
Why does Carolina want to trade a 21 year old defenseman on an apparent upswing?
I will leave you with 2 examples.
1. Erikkson
2. Gudbranson
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 10 @ 12:52 PM ET
I don't trust Benning's pro scouting/trading at all. Therefore it will be a bad trade.
Why does Carolina want to trade a 21 year old defenseman on an apparent upswing?
I will leave you with 2 examples.
1. Erikkson
2. Gudbranson

- Marwood


foundation player.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 10 @ 12:52 PM ET
I don't trust Benning's pro scouting/trading at all. Therefore it will be a bad trade.
Why does Carolina want to trade a 21 year old defenseman on an apparent upswing?
I will leave you with 2 examples.
1. Erikkson
2. Gudbranson

- Marwood


So... number 7, Eriksson and gudbranson for hanifin?
I'd be down with that, then my dream of taveras and Carlson can come true.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 10 @ 1:01 PM ET
If it’s Hanafin for the 7th and nothing’s more then it’s a good trade for us but as soon as we start adding more it’s not good.
- thundachunk


I don’t think it matters if you add or not ....if Hanifan turns into a legit top pairing guy then it’s a good trade if he ends up a 4/5 guy it might not be
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 10 @ 1:02 PM ET
So... number 7, Eriksson and gudbranson for hanifin?
I'd be down with that, then my dream of taveras and Carlson can come true.

- Pres.cup


EK is reporting that Tavares is making Vancouver a stop on his Free-agency tour.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 10 @ 1:04 PM ET
EK is reporting that Tavares is making Vancouver a stop on his Free-agency tour.
- Reubenkincade


Makes sense he would, its a nice city, they got cap space, and his buddy Gagner is on the team. Chances he comes here very slim, sure would be cool if he did though
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