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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 7 @ 2:38 PM ET
Is Okposo’s active now?
I thought it kicked in next fall.
Regardless, no more taking on other teams junk. Im pretty sure perry is done.
Let them buy him out. If you want to try him on your team, pick him up cheap if that happens.

- seedy


It's a contractual move, really. When it's time to pay Dahlin, he's gone, and so is Okposo's 6M.

However, I think the team is worse off with Perry than Okposo. Perry has little chance to kick the trend he's been going down. Okposo will come back in top shape and return to ~60 pts barring injury. His concussion really boned his offseason conditioning.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 7 @ 2:38 PM ET
The point is, people seem to think were obligated to sell RoR on the cheap and accept their players at a high value.

Carolina fans feels that RoR should be an even swap for Skinner or even that we should add, yet:

RoR Skinner
center > LW
60 per year > 50 pts per year
Strong defensively > defensive liability
Wins face offs > doesn't take face offs

Has 5 years left on deal. UFA next season.
plays on the worst team Plays on a better team


It really isn't comparable, we lose this trade.

- sskkoo1

Over the past 3 seasons

Skinner - 74 EV goals
O'Reilly - 32 EV goals

Our offense is immediately better with that trade.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 7 @ 2:40 PM ET
The point is, people seem to think were obligated to sell RoR on the cheap and accept their players at a high value.

Carolina fans feels that RoR should be an even swap for Skinner or even that we should add, yet:

RoR Skinner
center > LW
60 per year > 50 pts per year
Strong defensively > defensive liability
Wins face offs > doesn't take face offs

Has 5 years left on deal. UFA next season.
plays on the worst team Plays on a better team


It really isn't comparable, we lose this trade.

- sskkoo1


Our offense definitely gets better with Skinner, but I think ROR is a more valuable player than Skinner is, league wide. That includes all factors, inc contract and position.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 7 @ 2:43 PM ET
Our offense definitely gets better with Skinner, but I think ROR is a more valuable player than Skinner is, league wide. That includes all factors, inc contract and position.
- TheSabresTaco

I think it's very close
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 7 @ 2:44 PM ET
Our offense definitely gets better with Skinner, but I think ROR is a more valuable player than Skinner is, league wide. That includes all factors, inc contract and position.
- TheSabresTaco


ROR and Scnadella.
for
Skinner and Hanifin. Possibly a late round pick thrown in.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 7 @ 2:45 PM ET
I think it's very close
- sbroads24


Perhaps. I would say it was even if Skinner was signed for 5 years at 5-5.5M.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 7 @ 2:48 PM ET
ROR and Scnadella.
for
Skinner and Hanifin. Possibly a late round pick thrown in.

- ImThatGuy


I'd do that trade if we had a plan to acquire a defensive center to protect CM and to play Dzone minutes. Plek, Filpulla, Bozak, Vermette, D Ryan all viable options.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Jun 7 @ 2:49 PM ET
Is Okposo’s active now?
I thought it kicked in next fall.
Regardless, no more taking on other teams junk. Im pretty sure perry is done.
Let them buy him out. If you want to try him on your team, pick him up cheap if that happens.

- seedy



He has a NMC that turns into a NTC on 7/1/18

At that point he can no thank you 15 teams.

Perry has a full NMC.

Perry is owed $24 mil over the next 3 seasons, Okposo is owed $18 mil over that time and $26 mil left on the deal.
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Jun 7 @ 2:54 PM ET
the Anaheim Ducks won two games in the second round




But the Ducks lost to SJS in the first round?

gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 7 @ 2:55 PM ET
Florida is just getting killed with rain
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 7 @ 2:57 PM ET
the Anaheim Ducks won two games in the second round




But the Ducks lost to SJS in the first round?


- CoHo_to_B-Lo


?
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Jun 7 @ 2:58 PM ET
?
- TheSabresTaco



You didn't read the article.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 7 @ 3:00 PM ET
You didn't read the article.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


Thumbs down indeed. Better go read that.
Wissler
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 05.10.2016

Jun 7 @ 3:04 PM ET
I'd do that trade if we had a plan to acquire a defensive center to protect CM and to play Dzone minutes. Plek, Filpulla, Bozak, Vermette, D Ryan all viable options.
- TheSabresTaco

Other then Plekanec, none of those guys are very good defensive players. Even Plek is average at best.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 7 @ 3:06 PM ET
The good news we find out if ROR will be moved in the next 2 weeks
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 7 @ 3:09 PM ET
Other then Plekanec, none of those guys are very good defensive players. Even Plek is average at best.
- Wissler


What’s goose doing these days
arousedpanda
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.01.2018

Jun 7 @ 3:09 PM ET
Hey first time poster, sad memories bringing up “no goal”. But I like the comparison and nice blog pach, been a fan for awhile
Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WNY, NY
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 7 @ 3:14 PM ET
Our offense definitely gets better with Skinner, but I think ROR is a more valuable player than Skinner is, league wide. That includes all factors, inc contract and position.
- TheSabresTaco


ROR is more valuable than Skinner and has a higher floor. I would be trading something else for Skinner like the SJ 1st or another player over ROR if you really wanted him.

Personally I think Hoffman would be a better fit on the wing for them. Add Domi into the mix as well depending on who else they might be targeting and you are in business. Yes, I know some don't like Domi but hes a 40-50 pt guy on the wing we could use and fits the age our team is building around not to mention MUCH better than what we have now

If they trade for someone like Hanifin then most likely will need to ship out a current D to fill the forward void so should be a bunch of trades this offseason
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 7 @ 3:14 PM ET
The good news we find out if ROR will be moved in the next 2 weeks
- gerbe75pts


Why is that?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 7 @ 3:17 PM ET
Why is that?
- Cup Crazy '07


If you don't have a ticket for Gerbe Island, I'm going to have to send you on your way, sir.
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 7 @ 3:18 PM ET
If you don't have a ticket for Gerbe Island, I'm going to have to send you on your way, sir.
- TheSabresTaco


Haha! How do I get one?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 7 @ 3:27 PM ET
Haha! How do I get one?
- Cup Crazy '07


You buy into his crazy bullpoop, speak in absolutes and follow insane conspiracies. Discount tickets for severe over reactions and believing all picks are 1st round picks.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 7 @ 3:30 PM ET
DON'T


TRADE


ROR
mattsox
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 7 @ 3:35 PM ET
DON'T


TRADE


ROR

- JVince11



I don't see Botts doing it unless he's winning the Trade.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 7 @ 3:37 PM ET
Michael Pachla: The '99 Sabres and this Vegas team have a lot in common.
- Michael Pachla

yotes in 6
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