What's a better fit? Stone at 26, Hoffman at 28, with the Sens heading into (probably) a lengthy rebuild, or a 22-year old Sam Reinhart, a first round pick, pick #32 and a prospect?

Say it takes them 4 years to get back to contention - with no first next year - those guys are at or over 30. Reinhart would be 25, and that first round pick would be 22
- jcragcrumple

The no first next year kind of hurts this. It's harder to trade away those assets in order to rebuild knowing you'll give away such a good pick.

I actually think Rienhart get's an unfair amount of hate, but I dont't think this trade works.

The pick next year is interesting. But I think the addition of Stone and Hoffman will make that pick worth less than the Sens would want.

Okay, I will try to play along. Assuming those will be the lines:
??? Eichel Okposo
Nylander O'Reilly Reinhart
Rodrigues Mittelstadt Pominville
Moulson Larsson Baptiste

I would just stand pat and sign JVR (slight overpay because UFA but good player). Or a Vanek as stop gap. Reinhart + 1st would not get you Stone + Hoffman. Maybe Reinhart straight up for Hoffman would interest the Sens but then you still have an issue of an empty spot in the top 6.

If we would go Reinhart + 1st road for Hoffman + Stone we also would like a Mittelstadt or Nylander included, and I think that is a no go for the Sabres?
- DutchSenators

Nylander and pick #32 this year.

You have a deal.

Help a brother out here:

What's the current status of the proposed new arena in the Lebreton Flats area?

Thanks in advance.

Help a brother out here:

What's the current status of the proposed new arena in the Lebreton Flats area?

Thanks in advance.
- Atomic Wedgie

Sens have approval to build subject to final design and financing.

Sens have approval to build subject to final design and financing.
- spatso

In another move of utilizing the Sens assets to maximize revenue, Melnuk was seen standing with a cup outside the nearest Queensway exit after the last event.

Nylander and pick #32 this year.

You have a deal.
- jcragcrumple

You mean Reinhart, Nylander and #32 for Hoffman and Stone?

I can buy the sale rumours, but making Alfie President of Hockey Ops would be a bad start. Unless Alfie is a incredibly quick learner, he is not qualified.
First thing first, get some new ownership.
- JACMAN

I agree with this 100%. My personal hatred for the guy aside, he was a tremendous on ice captain for this team and big part of the Sens identity. Melnyk aside, he claimed he wasn't interested in putting the hours and work in required to learn the business. Nor does he have anything close to the cash required to be a meaningful owner. If a 1% stake puts him in the "ownership group", whatever, call yourself an owner...

I sat beside him at some Ottawa Sting appreciation night about a month ago - disinterested, not particularly engaging, dare I say aloof.... Now I am sure he wasn't trying very hard that night, but as a Leaf fan, say PLEASE put him in charge...

Who do you think this guy is? Brendan Shanahan?

There is no truth to the rumour that Melnyk has missed payroll. Utter nonsense.

There is no valid or credible mention of it anywhere on the internet other than a couple of goofballs posting vague mentions of it on twitter. Believing this story is like believing anything Donald Trump has to say.

Investors will be there for the Lebreton development, because Melnyk owns the rights to it as his group was the one selected. Anything being bandied about is just noise.

As for the validity of anything coming out of TSN, I would say look at their hyping of a Karlsson trade at the trade deadline. Nothing there. Dreger's insights come from his connections to a relative in the Leafs organization so if he were commenting on them, I would tend to believe it. As far as I have heard, he has no inside connections in the Ottawa Senators organization. Let's not forget that Karlsson has said he doesn't want to go. They will offer a contract and he will either sign or decline.

When I see a credible report that he is being aggressively shopped, then I will lend it some credence.

You mean Reinhart, Nylander and #32 for Hoffman and Stone?
- DutchSenators

2019 first, Reinhart, Nylander, 2018 pick #32

For

Stone and Hoffman

There is no valid or credible mention of it anywhere on the internet other than a couple of goofballs posting vague mentions of it on twitter. Believing this story is like believing anything Donald Trump has to say.
- jaz258

HockeyBuzz described perfectly! Kudos!

are you giving Karlsson with that trash can Ryan to get your own pick back.

the 2019 Ott pick is worth so much with how much of a dumpster fire this team has been since they have made that trrade
- DDM-Coga

you really are nothing but a troll

In another move of utilizing the Sens assets to maximize revenue, Melnuk was seen standing with a cup outside the nearest Queensway exit after the last event.
- david22

you really are nothing but a troll
- GoodOldHockeyGame

calling out bad hockey takes and trades is being a troll?

Karlsson for the 16th overall pick...anyone that says thats a bad trade is trolling, dont troll me Sens fans

There is no truth to the rumour that Melnyk has missed payroll. Utter nonsense.

There is no valid or credible mention of it anywhere on the internet other than a couple of goofballs posting vague mentions of it on twitter. Believing this story is like believing anything Donald Trump has to say.

Investors will be there for the Lebreton development, because Melnyk owns the rights to it as his group was the one selected. Anything being bandied about is just noise.

As for the validity of anything coming out of TSN, I would say look at their hyping of a Karlsson trade at the trade deadline. Nothing there. Dreger's insights come from his connections to a relative in the Leafs organization so if he were commenting on them, I would tend to believe it. As far as I have heard, he has no inside connections in the Ottawa Senators organization. Let's not forget that Karlsson has said he doesn't want to go. They will offer a contract and he will either sign or decline.

When I see a credible report that he is being aggressively shopped, then I will lend it some credence.
- jaz258

The proof will be in the pudding when stone signs an offer sheet with a 7m signing bonus that the sens don't match.

I've said on here multiple times but, Ottawa would be absolutely stupid to trade Hoffman. He is our best goal scorer on a good contract, our fastest skater and has amazing chemistry with Duchene.

If Ottawa trades Hoffman, we might as well trade Duchene too, because Duchene has openly said he wants to play on the same line as Hoffman

I should also add that I think if Karlsson isn't retained and/or Hoffman is traded.... PD should be fired on the spot

2019 first, Reinhart, Nylander, 2018 pick #32

For

Stone and Hoffman
- jcragcrumple

I'd probably do that if we can't resign Karlsson.

The vultures are really circling, how many sens players are mentioned in other teams blogs, articles right now?

The proof will be in the pudding when stone signs an offer sheet with a 7m signing bonus that the sens don't match.
- Tumbleweed

so I guess we play the waiting game then.....

I hate the waiting game, let's play Hungry Hungry Hippo's instead... (Simpson, Homer)

The proof will be in the pudding when stone signs an offer sheet with a 7m signing bonus that the sens don't match.
- Tumbleweed

Well, then we get 4 1sts if it is 7 years or more. Would be great.

so I guess we play the waiting game then.....

I hate the waiting game, let's play Hungry Hungry Hippo's instead... (Simpson, Homer)
- jaz258

Well, then we get 4 1sts if it is 7 years or more. Would be great.
- DutchSenators

lol. nobody would be that dumb.

1 or 5 years.

1 year @ $8M is really the ticket. sens can't trade him for a year if they match.

lol. nobody would be that dumb.

1 or 5 years.

1 year @ $8M is really the ticket. sens can't trade him for a year if they match.
- Tumbleweed

Why would Stone ever do that?

lol. nobody would be that dumb.

1 or 5 years.

1 year @ $8M is really the ticket. sens can't trade him for a year if they match.
- Tumbleweed

Stone is not that dumb to sign for 5 years now. Then he is 31 when he runs out of his contract. Better to go short or 7 years +

Stone is not that dumb to sign for 5 years now. Then he is 31 when he runs out of his contract. Better to go short or 7 years +
- DutchSenators

I don't see why he'd sign a short term offer sheet either. Too risky if he gets hurt.

. If he signs an offer sheet it'll be for lots of money long germ. [/img]

Why would Stone ever do that?
- david22

why would he re-sign with this: