He may very well, but I as I mentioned above Zadina's numbers are more impressive, so I argue he has much less bust potential.
- apex123

I agree that Zadina looks fantastic too. I wish the Habs had multiple picks in this top 10...

Is the Getzlaf comparison accurate considering Tkachuk is a winger and Getzlaf is a centre? A physically imposing winger with an edge sounds more like Perry to me.

One thing about these big dominant forwards to watch out for is that fact that they can dominate their age group but can also tend to falter when that advantage is minimized in the NHL. There are a number of top ten picks who were unable to translate their physical game to the NHL where speed and skill outweighs size. I personally have no knowledge of either player but if the consensus is that Zadina has higher end skill, he seems like a better choice.

Is the Getzlaf comparison accurate considering Tkachuk is a winger and Getzlaf is a centre? A physically imposing winger with an edge sounds more like Perry to me.

One thing about these big dominant forwards to watch out for is that fact that they can dominate their age group but can also tend to falter when that advantage is minimized in the NHL. There are a number of top ten picks who were unable to translate their physical game to the NHL where speed and skill outweighs size. I personally have no knowledge of either player but if the consensus is that Zadina has higher end skill, he seems like a better choice.
- 13sundin13

This is somewhat less true for college kids, who play against guys in their mid-20s.

This is somewhat less true for college kids, who play against guys in their mid-20s.
- jugkope

That's true, but if there's a noticeable difference in skill and/or speed, I'd think Zadina is the pick the Habs should make.

They should trade down if they don't intend on drafting Zadina, any other scenario will most likely blow up in their face not too far down the road

From what I read Tkachuk is NOT a centre. Don't do a Drouin out of this. Everybody and their uncle say to draft Zadina.


If Bergevin wants another first round pick, he has assests to pull this off (4 2nd round picks, Pacioretty, Byron, etc).

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From what I read Tkachuk is NOT a centre. Don't do a Drouin out of this. Everybody and their uncle say to draft Zadina.


If Bergevin wants another first round pick, he has assests to pull this off (4 2nd round picks, Pacioretty, Byron, etc).
- deadpoulet

Or use the 3rd itself to get 2 first rounders or a high 1st + a C prospect

The Habs love the usa
- Just5

Timmins sure does.

[quote=apex123]
McCarron was viewed as a mid second round pick. Tkachuk is a consensus top 5 pick. Can't really compare both.

[quote=BashCH]

I completely agree but it doesn't mean selecting Tkachuk over Zadina is a good idea

This is somewhat less true for college kids, who play against guys in their mid-20s.
- jugkope

And by mid 20s you mean 17-21

[quote=obie]
Well, you can view it both ways. Zadina could also be the next Nail Yakupov.

I personally don't mind either pick. I think both will be good NHL players and both will bring upsides to their team.

Also don't get the whole "Tkachuk is old" argument...Zadina is 2 months younger, does that really make that much of a difference?

[quote=BashCH]

No lol I haven't heard anyone say that but that's pretty dumb for sure

The thing is we lack scorers. Which one is supposed to be a better scorer? Zadina? Then draft him FFS.

[quote=BashCH]
Nah they are both lates because of their birthday so equal footing there

The thing is we lack scorers. Which one is supposed to be a better scorer? Zadina? Then draft him FFS.
- Good On Paper

Well both are scorers, one is more about speed and flashy skills, the other is more gritty.

You could argue we could need the latter most as only Gallagher goes to those areas right now.

Well both are scorers, one is more about speed and flashy skills, the other is more gritty.

You could argue we could need the latter most as only Gallagher goes to those areas right now.
- Fredobbface

That's also my opinion.

Habs don't have anyone to get the puck in the corners...

Well both are scorers, one is more about speed and flashy skills, the other is more gritty.

You could argue we could need the latter most as only Gallagher goes to those areas right now.
- Fredobbface

Ok, but which one has the highest scoring potential? If both could be 25-30 goal scorers then you could pick based on grit vs speed.

That's also my opinion.

Habs don't have anyone to get the puck in the corners...
- BashCH

Where Drouin, Galchenyuk and Pacio are more like Zadina

And by mid 20s you mean 17-21
- Fredobbface

There's barely any 17s. 19-23 is more of the norm. University of Vermont actually had 2 guys turning 25. But the vast majority of players are 21 to 23.

Ok, but which one has the highest scoring potential? If both could be 25-30 goal scorers then you could pick based on grit vs speed.
- Good On Paper

Probably Zadina but he's probably a more high risky - high reward pick. Where Tkachuk will likely get less points but with his style of play is more sure to have a certain level of sucess in the NHL.

Ok, but which one has the highest scoring potential? If both could be 25-30 goal scorers then you could pick based on grit vs speed.
- Good On Paper

Habs are already loaded with guys that need others to produce. They need players that make poop happen (like Radulov did).

There's barely any 17s. 19-23 is more of the norm. University of Vermont actually had 2 guys turning 25. But the vast majority of players are 21 to 23.
- jugkope

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...ons/teams/0004492018.html not much of a difference with the CHL.

(frank) off with your facts Adam French.


- dt99999