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jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jun 10 @ 5:38 PM ET
Another interesting trade idea?
I don’t think we can afford Stastny and I also think Roslovic is ready for 2nd line Center!! But for those that want another Center. Another trade I can actually see happening is, Tyler Johnson for Tyler Myers. I don’t like Johnson at 5 mil per but if Tampa will eat one million, I like him at 4 and I still think I’d keep Roslovic in the 2 spot and move little to the wing.

Let me guess some of your answers;

Jets nation - stop trading Myers! He is our version of Denis potvin

Ultimate - I don’t want Tyler Johnson I told you I want Taveras or Giroux

Rexy - why trade for Tyler Johnson when we have Nic Petan who is the same size, younger and better

Am I close ? Lol!!!!

- Ross77


Actually, I'd consider that trade but Yzerman isn't going to take a guy with one year left for a guy who has a reasonable long-term contract. They are also set a defence with probably the best blue line in the league.
Myers was never a third pairing defenseman. He played top 4 minutes ( often top 2 minutes) all year. Toby and Chariot were the actual third pair in terms of ice time. Myers numbers while quite good would have been exceptional if he wasn't partnered with Chariot.
The guy I'd really like on that team though is Braydon Point. I can't envision a deal where that happens though. You could offer Perreault, Dano, Petan, and Chariot and probably still not get that done.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jun 10 @ 5:46 PM ET
What has Trouba done to earn 6.4? He is the most overrated Jet. People/media outside Winnipeg keep questioning what the hype is about.
- TheUltimateJet


Ultimate. I don't disagree that he may not be worth that much. Unfortunately, that is what the market will command for a young solid defenseman who still is improving....so I'm being realistic while also factoring in some notable salary inflation which has happened since Scheif signed. Personally, I think he is worth the same as Morrissey which is $5MM per year plus or minus a few hundred K. Maybe the fact he now wants to remain a Jet will temper his salary expectations somewhat but its hard to reflect that desire in a guesstimate.

Chevy also needs to be careful if Trouba reaches the arbitration deadline. If the Jets go the arb route and the number is in the low fives then some low cap team like Arizona or Vegas could come in and scoop him and just give up the draft picks. That's not what we want here during our Cup run years.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 10 @ 6:39 PM ET
Ultimate. I don't disagree that he may not be worth that much. Unfortunately, that is what the market will command for a young solid defenseman who still is improving....so I'm being realistic while also factoring in some notable salary inflation which has happened since Scheif signed. Personally, I think he is worth the same as Morrissey which is $5MM per year plus or minus a few hundred K. Maybe the fact he now wants to remain a Jet will temper his salary expectations somewhat but its hard to reflect that desire in a guesstimate.

Chevy also needs to be careful if Trouba reaches the arbitration deadline. If the Jets go the arb route and the number is in the low fives then some low cap team like Arizona or Vegas could come in and scoop him and just give up the draft picks. That's not what we want here during our Cup run years.

- jetsnation

If you opt to go to arbitration you can not sign a contract with another team
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 10 @ 6:45 PM ET
Ultimate. I don't disagree that he may not be worth that much. Unfortunately, that is what the market will command for a young solid defenseman who still is improving....so I'm being realistic while also factoring in some notable salary inflation which has happened since Scheif signed. Personally, I think he is worth the same as Morrissey which is $5MM per year plus or minus a few hundred K. Maybe the fact he now wants to remain a Jet will temper his salary expectations somewhat but its hard to reflect that desire in a guesstimate.

Chevy also needs to be careful if Trouba reaches the arbitration deadline. If the Jets go the arb route and the number is in the low fives then some low cap team like Arizona or Vegas could come in and scoop him and just give up the draft picks. That's not what we want here during our Cup run years.

- jetsnation

Tampa is looking for a RHD, after Stralman they have nothing on the right side you’d want playing. Hedman, McDonaugh and Sergachev are all left handed, I’m sure they don’t want Girardi or Cobourn back.
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jun 11 @ 10:55 AM ET

Trouba, Little, Perreault
For Kessel and Letang
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 11 @ 12:33 PM ET
Trouba, Little, Perreault
For Kessel and Letang

- Byfuglien Ate Me



I would do the trade for Kessel and Schultz. Letang is overpaid at 7+ million.
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jun 11 @ 12:40 PM ET
I would do the trade for Kessel and Schultz. Letang is overpaid at 7+ million.
- TheUltimateJet


True.

The idea of adding Phil to that PP! Love it.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Jun 11 @ 1:02 PM ET
True.

The idea of adding Phil to that PP! Love it.

- Byfuglien Ate Me


Phil is also Blake's best friend.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 11 @ 1:28 PM ET
Trouba, Little, Perreault
For Kessel and Letang

- Byfuglien Ate Me

No
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 11 @ 1:29 PM ET
I guess EK is reading me now, look who broke the story first (me) about Tampa looking to move Tyler Johnson

Lol
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Jun 11 @ 2:37 PM ET
I would love to have the Oiler pick up Petan.
- LittleRickyV2


I don't doubt that. Petan hasn't impressed me at the NHL level too much, but the wingers on your oilers are in competition with Thorton for slowest skater. A lot of slow moving beef out there.
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Jun 11 @ 2:38 PM ET
Trouba, Little, Perreault
For Kessel and Letang

- Byfuglien Ate Me


No deal, but if you want little for a 7th rd pick he's yours
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jun 11 @ 11:20 PM ET
There are a few lower cap teams who could really burn the Jets with offer sheets for Trouba or Hellebucyk and drive up their salaries forcing Chevy to potentially lose a player or maybe not enable him to sign a guy like Statsny.

I would think Vegas is a prime candidate to cause trouble on the Trouba front with an offer sheet. Buffalo could do the same with Helle. So could a few other teams.

Jets don't really want the draft picks at this stage in their cycle even if its a first , second , and third for Trouba on a $6 MM + offer sheet. I worry much more though about Helle. Some team could really drive up his price. We also have a lot of other RFA's to worry about. Its almost inevitable that there may be teams making offers on some of them. Chevy better get to work.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Jun 12 @ 9:07 AM ET
I'll also add this to my last post. It is painfully obvious that either Trouba or Myers has to be traded. Personally, I think they both add tremendous value to the Jets. However, the fact remains that we cant have $18-$19 MM of our salary cap all on the defensive right side. This is especially true with Tucker Poolman also being on the right side and ready for the next step.

Here is how I think it plays out. If the Trouba contract demands are hugely excessive ( $6.5 MM +) then I think he gets traded and Myers gets an extension in the $5 MM range. However, Trouba wants to stay here long term so Chevy will definitely be playing the salary cap card and telling him if he wants to stay then he better be willing to accept a contract in the low 5's. In this case I see Myers getting traded for a left-handed defenseman to a team that is left-side strong and right-side weak. I would think the latter is the most likely scenario. Under this scenario, you could see Statsny sign a 2-3 year contract if its reasonable numbers.

There is also no doubt that Jets need more depth on the left side. Toby is gone and should never have been extended anyways. After Morrissey we really drop off in talent on that side , at least until Niku gets some experience. I'm not so high on Kulikov. I think we should try and trade him and shed that $4.33 MM contract for the next two years. However, unless we find the right trade I assume he must stay for the depth.

Ideal scenario though might be to trade Myers, Kulikov ,and Perreault and save almost $15 MM and obtain a cheaper reliable LD ( from one of the trades) and sign Statsny . That frees up about $5.5 to $6 MM plus whatever talent and draft picks we acquire for those trades, which could be significant improvements in the right spots.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Jun 12 @ 10:09 AM ET
I'll also add this to my last post. It is painfully obvious that either Trouba or Myers has to be traded. Personally, I think they both add tremendous value to the Jets. However, the fact remains that we cant have $18-$19 MM of our salary cap all on the defensive right side. This is especially true with Tucker Poolman also being on the right side and ready for the next step.


Here is how I think it plays out. If the Trouba contract demands are hugely excessive ( $6.5 MM +) then I think he gets traded and Myers gets an extension in the $5 MM range. However, Trouba wants to stay here long term so Chevy will definitely be playing the salary cap card and telling him if he wants to stay then he better be willing to accept a contract in the low 5's. In this case I see Myers getting traded for a left-handed defenseman to a team that is left-side strong and right-side weak. I would think the latter is the most likely scenario. Under this scenario, you could see Statsny sign a 2-3 year contract if its reasonable numbers.

There is also no doubt that Jets need more depth on the left side. Toby is gone and should never have been extended anyways. After Morrissey we really drop off in talent on that side , at least until Niku gets some experience. I'm not so high on Kulikov. I think we should try and trade him and shed that $4.33 MM contract for the next two years. However, unless we find the right trade I assume he must stay for the depth.

Ideal scenario though might be to trade Myers, Kulikov ,and Perreault and save almost $15 MM and obtain a cheaper reliable LD ( from one of the trades) and sign Statsny . That frees up about $5.5 to $6 MM plus whatever talent and draft picks we acquire for those trades, which could be significant improvements in the right spots.

- jetsnation


Trouba is not signing long term under 6.5, not here or anywhere. Why would he when All other top pairing D in the NHl will be signing for over 8 in the next year or so. Myers will also not sign an extension for 5, less than his current deal. Trouba will sign a 4 year deal as they won’t come terms on a longer deal and Myers will be traded for a first rounder. This is my wish.
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