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Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 4 @ 12:41 PM ET
Drouin is an extremely talented player...yeah he has issues, but him skating with jack is pretty enticing
- Michael Pachla


No way they part with drouin. He is a special player. The problem with him right now is that he’s being forced to play in the middle when in an ideal world he’s a 1LW. Once he goes back to where he’s comfortable he’ll be a pain in our side for many years.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 4 @ 12:44 PM ET
Wasn't this the Kane conversation when he was in WPG?

You're looking at 5.5 for Drouin and 7.75 (future imo) for Patches. That's a lot of celery, with only 7.5 going out.

- jcragcrumple


If Patch signs for 5-6yrs,
and Drouin works out on Jack’s wing...
then i have absolutely zero issue with the combined Cap hit for those 2 guys

I think Patch is an underrated player
My only concern with him is length of contract he’d demand

And if we got Drouin or Galchenyuk with him, and they work out...

I’d say that’s a win
Big win actually
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 4 @ 12:46 PM ET
No way they part with drouin. He is a special player. The problem with him right now is that he’s being forced to play in the middle when in an ideal world he’s a 1LW. Once he goes back to where he’s comfortable he’ll be a pain in our side for many years.
- Pegullaville


Maybe that’s why he’d be available?
That 13 goal season last year doesn’t help his value either

Montreal GM is probably desperate to save his job
So it might be possible
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 4 @ 12:47 PM ET
If Patch signs for 5-6yrs,
and Drouin works out on Jack’s wing...
then i have absolutely zero issue with the combined Cap hit for those 2 guys

I think Patch is an underrated player
My only concern with him is length of contract he’d demand

And if we got Drouin or Galchenyuk with him, and they work out...

I’d say that’s a win
Big win actually

- jdfitz77


If they want to move ROR, that's the sort of deal I'd look for. Players who can make an impact now. It would give the wing a big boost

The bolded is a concern, but I like the player. Not sure if they'd have to clear salary for next year or not.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 4 @ 12:53 PM ET
If they want to move ROR, that's the sort of deal I'd look for. Players who can make an impact now. It would give the wing a big boost

The bolded is a concern, but I like the player. Not sure if they'd have to clear salary for next year or not.

- jcragcrumple


Yeah, i like Patch too
Underrated imo

We could make it work for next year
Probably just ship out Beaulieu for a mid-late round pick if necessary
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 4 @ 12:55 PM ET
If they want to move ROR, that's the sort of deal I'd look for. Players who can make an impact now. It would give the wing a big boost

The bolded is a concern, but I like the player. Not sure if they'd have to clear salary for next year or not.

- jcragcrumple


Yep
Or at least ready to jump to the NHL like a Robert Thomas or Kyrou from StL
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 4 @ 12:55 PM ET
So Grigorenko technically worked out then
- Stripes77

Technically Grigorenko did work out for the Sabres. He was a big peice in landing O’Reilly.

This is the part people are forgetting, even if one of our 1sts are underwhelming, they still hold value for years.

Even Girgensons has some value right now
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 4 @ 12:59 PM ET
Michael Pachla: Impressions of, and questions concerning--RW, Matt Moulson
- Michael Pachla


Man how heated are you it could be 1-1 I think jr (frank)ed u guys out of a championship

Sorry bro
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 4 @ 12:59 PM ET
Technically Grigorenko did work out for the Sabres. He was a big peice in landing O’Reilly.

This is the part people are forgetting, even if one of our 1sts are underwhelming, they still hold value for years.

Even Girgensons has some value right now

- sbroads24


Huh?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 4 @ 1:01 PM ET
Technically Grigorenko did work out for the Sabres. He was a big peice in landing O’Reilly.

This is the part people are forgetting, even if one of our 1sts are underwhelming, they still hold value for years.

Even Girgensons has some value right now

- sbroads24


Fair point on Grigorenko...
but if we trade O’Reilly, then it would depend on how those pieces worked out ultimately
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 4 @ 1:07 PM ET
With Montreal, I would want to unhook Pacioretti from any ROR discussion unless they are willing to add productive players into the mix. I don’t think the character of Drouin and Gally is what the Sabres should be trying to acquire as a central piece...the warning signs are there already with those two.
Again, there isn’t too much I would want from them outside their 2018 1st.

- IonSabres


Why do you need max pacioretty ? He’s going to be old by the time we’re competing I would rather trade for him if he was 25 or 26
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 4 @ 1:12 PM ET
If we could get Drouin in RoR deal oh man that be sweet
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 4 @ 1:13 PM ET
Why do you need max pacioretty ? He’s going to be old by the time we’re competing I would rather trade for him if he was 25 or 26
- gerbe75pts


Old man look at my life,
I'm a lot like you were.
Old man look at my life,
I'm a lot like you were.

Old man look at my life,
Twenty four
and there's so much more
Live alone in a paradise
That makes me think of two.

Love lost, such a cost,
Give me things
that don't get lost.
Like a coin that won't get tossed
Rolling home to you.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 4 @ 1:16 PM ET
Old man look at my life,
I'm a lot like you were.
Old man look at my life,
I'm a lot like you were.

Old man look at my life,
Twenty four
and there's so much more
Live alone in a paradise
That makes me think of two.

Love lost, such a cost,
Give me things
that don't get lost.
Like a coin that won't get tossed
Rolling home to you.

- jcragcrumple



Great tune, great artist
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 4 @ 1:16 PM ET
Thoughts on Galchenyuk?
- jdfitz77


Would be cool with him he needs a change of scenery I don’t know what it is but the coaches play him on the third line and they limit him imagine if he was on a line with Jack Eichel
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 4 @ 1:18 PM ET
Why do you need max pacioretty ? He’s going to be old by the time we’re competing I would rather trade for him if he was 25 or 26
- gerbe75pts


Plenty of reasons
LW
Wheels
Scoring
Leadership
Winner

Vs
Drouin...another A Nylander...flash and dance. No compete.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 4 @ 1:18 PM ET
Old man look at my life,
I'm a lot like you were.
Old man look at my life,
I'm a lot like you were.

Old man look at my life,
Twenty four
and there's so much more
Live alone in a paradise
That makes me think of two.

Love lost, such a cost,
Give me things
that don't get lost.
Like a coin that won't get tossed
Rolling home to you.

- jcragcrumple



And you lost me
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 4 @ 1:19 PM ET
Would be cool with him he needs a change of scenery I don’t know what it is but the coaches play him on the third line and they limit him imagine if he was on a line with Jack Eichel
- gerbe75pts


Party animal, hockey is secondary.
Yup, a key piece...if you want to be forever disappointed.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 4 @ 1:21 PM ET
And you lost me
- gerbe75pts


Give me things that don't get lost

"Old Man" by Neil Young

I don't think you'd be into it
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 4 @ 1:21 PM ET
Plenty of reasons
LW
Wheels
Scoring
Leadership
Winner

Vs
Drouin...another A Nylander...flash and dance. No compete.

- IonSabres



How is he winner ? Just wondering

He’s going to be 30 and we’re going to give him a 8m deal ? I don’t like that

he’s going to decline if he hasn’t already

Drouin another nylander ...What have you seen him play He’s being forced to play a position that he’s not good at
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 4 @ 1:22 PM ET
Technically Grigorenko did work out for the Sabres. He was a big peice in landing O’Reilly.

This is the part people are forgetting, even if one of our 1sts are underwhelming, they still hold value for years.

Even Girgensons has some value right now

- sbroads24


Grigorenko was not a big piece in the O'Reilly Trade. Zadorov, Compher, and the high 2nd round pick were the main pieces. Grigs was a secondary piece bordering on thrown in.

It will be interesting to see what kind of value Girgensons has right now if and when he is dealt. My bet is not a lot.
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 4 @ 1:26 PM ET
How is he winner ? Just wondering

He’s going to be 30 and we’re going to give him a 8m deal ? I don’t like that

he’s going to decline if he hasn’t already

Drouin another nylander ...What have you seen him play He’s being forced to play a position that he’s not good at

- gerbe75pts



So is nylander...
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 4 @ 1:27 PM ET
Wasn't this the Kane conversation when he was in WPG?

You're looking at 5.5 for Drouin and 7.75 (future imo) for Patches. That's a lot of celery, with only 7.5 going out.

- jcragcrumple


Man patches is going to get 8 or 9 if kane gets 7 he can get that
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Jun 4 @ 1:28 PM ET
Grigorenko was not a big piece in the O'Reilly Trade. Zadorov, Compher, and the high 2nd round pick were the main pieces. Grigs was a secondary piece bordering on thrown in.

It will be interesting to see what kind of value Girgensons has right now if and when he is dealt. My bet is not a lot.

- GilPerreault11



Agreed, he’s just another guy.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 4 @ 1:28 PM ET
So is nylander...

- gordong


So nylander is a center now ? News to me
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