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stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:15 AM ET
Habs like tkatchuk...now -E1
- Symba007


Read Kotkaniemi this morning...

...and also the fact that he's a center that never played center except for last season.

This sounds like history repeating itself.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 4 @ 11:18 AM ET
Read Kotkaniemi this morning...

...and also the fact that he's a center that never played center except for last season.

This sounds like history repeating itself.

- stinger67


listen stinger, there's no point giving it any thought. the die is cast. whatever the worst possible decision is at #3, this team will make it.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jun 4 @ 11:23 AM ET
listen stinger, there's no point giving it any thought. the die is cast. whatever the worst possible decision is at #3, this team will make it.
- DoubleDown

Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 4 @ 11:24 AM ET
Read Kotkaniemi this morning...

...and also the fact that he's a center that never played center except for last season.

This sounds like history repeating itself.

- stinger67


I honestly think Kotkaniemi is a good player.

But if you're gonna pick him... trade down please? Because there is no way he's the right choice at #3.
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:25 AM ET
listen stinger, there's no point giving it any thought. the die is cast. whatever the worst possible decision is at #3, this team will make it.
- DoubleDown

Galchenyuk wasn't the worst pick they could have made
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 4 @ 11:27 AM ET
Galchenyuk wasn't the worst pick they could have made
- Fredobbface


Galchenyuk's pick was just fine. He's a good player.

Hell the only guy in his draft class outproducing him is Forsberg who's a (frank)ing stud, and he went #11.
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:41 AM ET
Galchenyuk's pick was just fine. He's a good player.

Hell the only guy in his draft class outproducing him is Forsberg who's a (frank)ing stud, and he went #11.

- Scabeh

Also Ghostibeeer in the second round
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 4 @ 11:48 AM ET
Also Ghostibeeer in the second round
- Fredobbface

also ta yeule
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:53 AM ET
also ta yeule
- Symba007

They are picking Zadina and all of this is purely journalists trying to create a buzz in a buzzless spring
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 4 @ 12:03 PM ET
They are picking Zadina and all of this is purely journalists trying to create a buzz in a buzzless spring
- Fredobbface



La p'tite abeille à travaille fort.... buzz buzz buzz
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 4 @ 12:08 PM ET
I honestly think Kotkaniemi is a good player.

But if you're gonna pick him... trade down please? Because there is no way he's the right choice at #3.

- Scabeh

They may have to, Kot might go as early as 6th with Detroit

from the Athletic

This is where Jesperi Kotkaniemi comes into play. Because if it’s not a sprint, and it could easily be argued the Canadiens are in fact attempting to sprint, then adding a promising centre at the draft makes sense as a marathon strategy.

The 17-year-old Finnish centre is one of the youngest players in the draft (he’ll be 18 on July 6) and is emerging as the top pivot available, obviously a position of need for the Canadiens. He played all season with men in Liiga, the top pro league in Finland, and got 29 points in 57 games for Ässät playing on the wing. He followed that with an outstanding performance in the World U-18 championships with nine points in seven games, playing centre, to help lead Finland to a gold medal.

His stock leading into the draft is clearly rising, and with Montreal desperately needing some talent at his position, the possibility exists that the Canadiens draft him.

“I’ve heard that they’re going to draft a centre,” Kotkaniemi said, before breaking into a big smile. “I hope it’s me.”

The Canadiens appear interested; they were one of three teams to take Kotkaniemi out for dinner in Buffalo, with the Detroit Red Wings (No. 6 overall pick) and Edmonton Oilers (No. 10) the others. For what it’s worth, Zadina did not go to dinner with the Canadiens, or anyone for that matter, but that information is probably not worth a whole lot. The Red Wings are looking to replenish their stock of centres and defencemen, just like the Canadiens, and Kotkaniemi is starting to look more and more attractive as an option for them as well, so trading too far down and still hoping to draft him would be risky.

“I think I’m mostly a playmaker but I also have a good shot. I’m a big guy, I like to go in the corners and to be in front of the net. I love those hard battles,” said Kotkaniemi, who is 6-foot-2, 190 pounds. “I think that went pretty well (playing against men). Before the season I think I would get something like 30 games, but I played 50 games so that was a big surprise to me. And I like that.

“I’m just 17, so that’s not a normal thing in Finland.”

It’s not a normal thing anywhere, frankly.

But Kotkaniemi is nowhere near a consensus top-10 pick, let alone top-3. Pronman has him at No. 4, Wheeler at No. 9 and McKenzie at No. 10. He’s ranked no higher than tenth by the scouting services tracked on Elite Prospects and NHL Central Scouting has him as the sixth-best international skater.

However, the man largely responsible for central scouting’s international list, NHL director of European Scouting Goran Stubb, likes what he sees in his fellow Finn.

“His best asset is his understanding of the game. If you don’t have strength or your skating isn’t as good, you can work on it and improve. But hockey sense is something you’re born with. And he has it,” Stubb told The Athletic in a phone interview from Helsinki. “He needs to work on his skating a bit, but he plays a very confident game. A lot of the problems he may have had (playing against men) he was able to avoid because of his hockey sense. He does need to bulk up a bit, but he doesn’t shy away from the rough stuff and, again, it was because of his hockey sense.”

Stubb has confidence in Kotkaniemi’s ability to perform in the NHL, but there are doubts about how high his ceiling is. At such a young age, long-term projections are problematic.

“I’m sure he will be, maybe not a superstar, but a very useful player for any NHL team,” Stubb said.

The Canadiens could use a very useful centre, but very useful at No. 3 overall might not cut it, not with someone available who has the potential to be an elite scorer, and, on top of that, can step in right away. Kotkaniemi says the plan is for him to play next season back in Finland, so he is at least one year away from the NHL, if not more.
Fountain-San
Boston Bruins
Location: Marchand is a rat fink dweeb.., ME
Joined: 02.21.2007

Jun 4 @ 12:11 PM ET
listen stinger, there's no point giving it any thought. the die is cast. whatever the worst possible decision is at #3, this team will make it.
- DoubleDown

when you have the opportunity to get the 20th ranked guy at #3 you take it.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jun 4 @ 12:12 PM ET
Also Ghostibeeer in the second round
- Fredobbface

love that guy
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Jun 4 @ 12:12 PM ET
when you have the opportunity to get the 20th ranked guy at #3 you take it.
- Fountain-San

Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 4 @ 12:21 PM ET
and...

http://www.lapresse.ca/sp...choix-surprise-du-ch.phpV
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 4 @ 12:29 PM ET
and...

http://www.lapresse.ca/sp...-choix-surprise-du-ch.php

- Symba007




Fixed your link
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 4 @ 12:31 PM ET
and...

http://www.lapresse.ca/sp...choix-surprise-du-ch.phpV

- Symba007


I don't think I would have an issue if they picked Kotkaniemi at 3... at some point, when you know you are desperate for a specific position for years and years, you got to take a chance and go for it. Zedina might be a nice winger with scoring potential (which the Habs need), but they have lots of wingers as it is.

If they could then flip Patches(+ ?) for a top 10-12 pick (+ ?) to draft a solid D prospect, then that is where I would try to go.
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Jun 4 @ 12:36 PM ET
when you have the opportunity to get the 20th ranked guy at #3 you take it.
- Fountain-San


I was about to throw something at you, but your picture stopped me
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 4 @ 12:55 PM ET
https://stories.featurd.i...adiens-offseason-preview/
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 4 @ 1:18 PM ET
and...

http://www.lapresse.ca/sp...choix-surprise-du-ch.phpV

- Symba007


Oh well... I'm sure he's gonnna be a good player too.

Would still pick Zadina before him.
QuebecPride
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Sherbrooke, QC
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 4 @ 1:21 PM ET
http://faceoffcircle.ca/2...ost-david-clarkson-trade/
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Jun 4 @ 1:33 PM ET
I always said it's not who you have dinner with that's important, it's who you have breakfast with
QuebecPride
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Sherbrooke, QC
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 4 @ 1:39 PM ET
I always said it's not who you have dinner with that's important, it's who you have breakfast with
- Fredobbface


You remind me of a good friend of mine. The true girls that interest him, he invites for breakfast not party/Supper.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Jun 4 @ 1:41 PM ET
*invites a bunch of whores for supper*
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 4 @ 1:45 PM ET
Za dina avec le CH et il aima bien son repas. Lol.
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