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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks reportedly interested in Noah Hanifin from Carolina
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Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 31 @ 12:39 AM ET
Don’t see what Carolina gains from trading him for OJ lol
- Nucker101


Probably want the 7 to draft a fwd
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 31 @ 12:40 AM ET
They would just bridge him then until some contracts clear up(Williams, etc) instead of making that trade
- Nucker101

Maybe they are not that high on him and trading him when value is high
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

May 31 @ 12:43 AM ET
They would just bridge him then until some contracts clear up(Williams, etc) instead of making that trade
- Nucker101



Juolevi was just confirmed to not be the video game addict.

Everyone wants a piece of him now that he isnt an addict.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 31 @ 12:44 AM ET
Nighthawk
- VANTEL

Onesmallleap? Not sure Jim drinks that much
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 31 @ 12:44 AM ET
Onesmallleap? Not sure Jim drinks that much
- CanuckDon

That was my guess too lol
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 31 @ 12:44 AM ET
He’s our Hamonic, except he only plays 50 games
- Nucker101


I remember after Hamilton’s first year in cgy ....everyone was dogging him ...I’ll give harmonic this year before I compare him to EG ....but after this year he might be dead to me lol
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 31 @ 12:46 AM ET
Maybe they are not that high on him and trading him when value is high
- VANTEL

Yeah, it’s possible
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 31 @ 12:48 AM ET
I remember after Hamilton’s first year in cgy ....everyone was dogging him ...I’ll give harmonic this year before I compare him to EG ....but after this year he might be dead to me lol
- Redmile247



You have no choice
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 31 @ 12:49 AM ET
Right handed elite defenceman are the rarest commodity in the league.

And like I said, the makeup with this team with a core of Boeser, EP, and Horvat cries out for having a high end righty more than a high end lefty.

- Lindenis#1

top2 dmen men are a commodity, we need every position and we need depth. If we could land him for a few pieces, I'd pull the trigger. I'd prefer it to not be #7. Granlund, Dipietro and our second maybe.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 31 @ 12:51 AM ET
I was listening to Craig Buttons today he had a very good take on Hanifin. His first comment was Hanifin will top out as a number 4 D not a 3 or higher. He said Bouchard Dobson and Hughes all have a higher ceiling.

He said the reason Carolina want to trade him is because they also know he is a number 4 D.

Be careful what you wish for.

- VANTEL

His stats sure aren't trending like a #4 DMAN. See where it goes I guess.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 31 @ 12:53 AM ET
top2 dmen men are a commodity, we need every position and we need depth. If we could land him for a few pieces, I'd pull the trigger. I'd prefer it to not be #7. Granlund, Dipietro and our second maybe.
- neem55

Again, not sure why Carolina would do this. If I was a Canes fan(lol), I’d be pissed if they made that deal

It sounds like Carolina wants #7 + good for Hanifin, I’d pass on that and just stay patient
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 31 @ 12:55 AM ET
You have no choice
- VANTEL


I have no choice ? How so ?
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

May 31 @ 12:56 AM ET
Right handed elite defenceman are the rarest commodity in the league.

And like I said, the makeup with this team with a core of Boeser, EP, and Horvat cries out for having a high end righty more than a high end lefty.

- Lindenis#1




we have 2 right shot prospects in our entire system
Brassard and Chatfield and both are long long shots of ever making the NHL
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 31 @ 12:57 AM ET
Again, not sure why Carolina would do this. If I was a Canes fan(lol), I’d be pissed if they made that deal

It sounds like Carolina wants #7 + good for Hanifin, I’d pass on that and just stay patient

- Nucker101

Fair. I'm not going to be disappointed if they don't, but the package I just mentioned had a solid looking G prospect, top9 forward and 37th pick overall. It's not the worst package. I'm guessing if the deal gets done Carolina gets quite a bit back, so I guess in that sense you are right
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 31 @ 1:00 AM ET
top2 dmen men are a commodity, we need every position and we need depth. If we could land him for a few pieces, I'd pull the trigger. I'd prefer it to not be #7. Granlund, Dipietro and our second maybe.
- neem55


Gotta think someone else can beat that offer ....or at the very least the canes would keep him for that price
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

May 31 @ 1:11 AM ET


we have 2 right shot prospects in our entire system
Brassard and Chatfield and both are long long shots of ever making the NHL

- classic321


Unless you're getting some insane discount on Hanifin, the collective assets you would surrender would just take away too much from a resource pool that this team barely has.

I don't know how much it says that the "deepest prospect pool in franchsie history" is like 4 legit prospects, 6 coinflips to have a career and a bunch of scratch tickets.

Yet, apparently that is deep enough to start selling in trades for a team that has no future defence and no future centers.
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

May 31 @ 1:14 AM ET
Gotta think someone else can beat that offer ....or at the very least the canes would keep him for that price
- Redmile247


If that was the offer then there are probably 20 teams topping you. Granlund, Dipietro and a 2nd wouldn't get you UFA to be Faulk, let alone a young RFA who's shown a wildly inconsistent defensive game with an ability to score some points. Plus that RFA has top5 draft pedigree which teams will splooge forever over until he's 32 despite performance.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

May 31 @ 1:58 AM ET
The irony is we traded MacCann for the 3 rd over all 24 year old 24 months ago and called is an enormous mistake and now we want to do it again for a higher pick. What about this draft and develop?
- VANTEL


Exactly. If he was the kind of defenceman the Cancucks need he wouldn’t be on the trade block.

We have a deeper prospect pool then we’ve had in a long time, but no where near deep enough to start moving assets for a player that hopefully continues to develop.
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

May 31 @ 2:41 AM ET
Exactly. If he was the kind of defenceman the Cancucks need he wouldn’t be on the trade block.

We have a deeper prospect pool then we’ve had in a long time, but no where near deep enough to start moving assets for a player that hopefully continues to develop.

- CubanBuffet


1 top 4 D, 3 scratch tickets on d
1 project starter, 1 1b project goaltender
1 blue chip forward, 3 middle 6 guys, a handful scratch ticket Fs

And its like people are acting like this is good because not a single one of these players is going to bust or suffer setbacks. And the pro team is overflowing with forward depth because Leipsic exists and Motte might learn to skate.
BobBot
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.17.2017

May 31 @ 2:44 AM ET
You honestly think Gudbranson, who rates very very near the bottom in every single defensive metric has been a better Defenseman? He's been awful. Biega may not be good enough to merit being on the team for 82 games but i'd take his effort level any day over the horrible hockey Guddy has played in Van.

Trade value is a different argument. GMs take draft position and size into account for that. In terms of who has been better on the ice it's no contest

- NorthNuck


is that you lawrence?
BobBot
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.17.2017

May 31 @ 2:44 AM ET
Yes I honestly believe that. I think biega is arguably the worst defensman in the NHL. He is a train wreck. I like that he works hard but to say he is better the EG is laughable. He hasn’t lived up to expectations but he is still a number 5. Biega has no business playing in the NHL
- CanuckDon


thank you
BobBot
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.17.2017

May 31 @ 2:46 AM ET
Why are they willing to let him go for a 7 th ?

Why not stick to the game plan

- VANTEL


he don't like it there by the sounds of it
BobBot
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.17.2017

May 31 @ 2:49 AM ET
I don't give a sh1t about OJ I would keep the 7 th
- VANTEL


yeah if we could turn OJ into Hanifin it would be a massive relief tbh

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 31 @ 3:03 AM ET
Nighthawk
- VANTEL

Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

May 31 @ 5:52 AM ET
he don't like it there by the sounds of it
- BobBot


well if i know one thing, its that you don't exercise leverage to win a trade ever. you just cave and overpay the team in a bind
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