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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 31 @ 4:04 PM ET
https://canucksarmy.com/2...h-hanifin-trade-feasible/

Canucks Army just dropped this 45 min ago. It's a good breakdown. I agree. If it were possible to get Hanifin for the 7th, it would all depend on who is available when JB's turn comes. Take Hanifin over Boqvist and Bochard.... they add Dobson to that group as well but I still think Dobson can potentially QB a PP so I don't like him on that list. I swap him out for Tkachuk.

So for me, if Hughes, Wahlstrom or Dobson is there... make the pick. Make the trade rather than take Boqvist, Bouchard or Tkachuk.

- boonerbuck


God, I hope this doesn't become the Summer of Hanifin.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 31 @ 4:06 PM ET
God, I hope this doesn't become the Summer of Hanifin.
- bloatedmosquito

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

May 31 @ 4:08 PM ET
I'd agree with this. Although I like Bouchard, based on what JB has said about wanting speed he won't be drafting him either way.
- NorthNuck


Bouchard, bottom 2 defender, PP QB.

Hanifin, top 3 defender, good 5 on 5 point producer and excellent transition player who can skate well.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 31 @ 4:11 PM ET
Bouchard, bottom 2 defender, PP QB.

Hanifin, top 3 defender, good 5 on 5 point producer and excellent transition player who can skate well.

- boonerbuck

I think Bouchard will be a 2nd pairing PP QB but I would obviously prefer Hanifin in a 1 to 1
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

May 31 @ 4:13 PM ET
God, I hope this doesn't become the Summer of Hanifin.
- bloatedmosquito


(frank)ing Friedman.... he has come right out and talked about how active Canuck's fans are online compared to the rest of the NHL and has rode those waves a few times now. I feel he is feeding us lately but I still think he wouldn't make poop up... just serving it in a presentation that Canuck's fans hunger for.

He always makes it clear when his is guessing/speculating and doesn't irresponsibly paraphrase or deliberately change context. Respect. Still, I see what he's up to.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 31 @ 4:27 PM ET
(frank)ing Friedman.... he has come right out and talked about how active Canuck's fans are online compared to the rest of the NHL and has rode those waves a few times now. I feel he is feeding us lately but I still think he wouldn't make poop up... just serving it in a presentation that Canuck's fans hunger for.

He always makes it clear when his is guessing/speculating and doesn't irresponsibly paraphrase or deliberately change context. Respect. Still, I see what he's up to.

- boonerbuck


Observant. I've always wondered why he seems to have a canuck take when most MSM types ignore.

Strange Friedman knows this market so well yet 1040 couldn't figure it out. Pray on the weaknesses of your audience. Great way to stand out in a crowded market.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 31 @ 4:36 PM ET
God, I hope this doesn't become the Summer of Hanifin.
- bloatedmosquito

I'm sure there will be other mistakes before summer is over, there's July 1st
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 31 @ 4:41 PM ET
Thats exactly why Carolina is interested in trading him. He's younger and better then the other 3 D.
- manvanfan

Some people (not you) have a difficulty of understanding that is he was that good he wouldn't be getting traded.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 31 @ 4:43 PM ET
Some people (not you) have a difficulty of understanding that is he was that good he wouldn't be getting traded.
- VANTEL

He might not be traded at all. Some think the owner is just shopping many of his players to get a read on what their current market value is, but he doesn't actually plan on moving more than 1 or 2 players
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 31 @ 4:44 PM ET
He might not be traded at all. Some think the owner is just shopping many of his players to get a read on what their current market value is, but he doesn't actually plan on moving more than 1 or 2 players
- NorthNuck

This too
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

May 31 @ 4:45 PM ET
Some people (not you) have a difficulty of understanding that is he was that good he wouldn't be getting traded.
- VANTEL


Teams always move on from 21yr old players who are Too Good when they're low leverage RFA's, they only have 3 other signed dmen for the upcoming season and 3 other dmen under team control after next season.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 31 @ 4:49 PM ET
Teams always move on from 21yr old players who are Too Good when they're low leverage RFA's, they only have 3 other signed dmen for the upcoming season and 3 other dmen under team control after next season.
- Lindenis#1



I bet the owner is thinking Dobson would be a nice upgrase over NH
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 31 @ 4:51 PM ET
A 21 year old who's progressing. Only two points behind Edler you say? Looks like he's going to be better than Edler by a fair bit. Are you sure you are arguing against Hanifin?

- boonerbuck

lol I'm for and against. He is trending up but there is no guarantee he will be a solid 50 point Dman like OEL for eg.

If we could get him for 'just' the 7OA pick Benning would have to look at it...but on the other hand if he is being fleeced for sweetener we may need to stay away from that deal.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 31 @ 4:51 PM ET
God, I hope this doesn't become the Summer of Hanifin.
- bloatedmosquito

Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 31 @ 4:52 PM ET
(frank)ing Friedman.... he has come right out and talked about how active Canuck's fans are online compared to the rest of the NHL and has rode those waves a few times now. I feel he is feeding us lately but I still think he wouldn't make poop up... just serving it in a presentation that Canuck's fans hunger for.

He always makes it clear when his is guessing/speculating and doesn't irresponsibly paraphrase or deliberately change context. Respect. Still, I see what he's up to.

- boonerbuck

It's obvious that Bloated is Freidman's burner account.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 31 @ 4:58 PM ET
https://canucksarmy.com/2...h-hanifin-trade-feasible/

Canucks Army just dropped this 45 min ago. It's a good breakdown. I agree. If it were possible to get Hanifin for the 7th, it would all depend on who is available when JB's turn comes. Take Hanifin over Boqvist and Bochard.... they add Dobson to that group as well but I still think Dobson can potentially QB a PP so I don't like him on that list. I swap him out for Tkachuk.

So for me, if Hughes, Wahlstrom or Dobson is there... make the pick. Make the trade rather than take Boqvist, Bouchard or Tkachuk.

- boonerbuck


No thank you to Dobson, if it's Hughes, bodqvist or whalstrom , you make the pick.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 31 @ 5:04 PM ET
I liked that Benning said in the video they will be trying to get more picks
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

May 31 @ 5:05 PM ET
I liked that Benning said in the video they will be trying to get more picks
- VANTEL


Always best to do that at the draft when they're at their highest value
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

May 31 @ 5:11 PM ET
lol I'm for and against. He is trending up but there is no guarantee he will be a solid 50 point Dman like OEL for eg.

If we could get him for 'just' the 7OA pick Benning would have to look at it...but on the other hand if he is being fleeced for sweetener we may need to stay away from that deal.

- LordHumungous


still the 7oa has me a bit concerned as well. it all really comes down to who they are targetting in that slot and that player's ceiling.

yes hanafin is a few years from entering his prime, but it reminds me a little of schneider being traded entering his prime for 9oa where horvat is looking great and the devils have been mediocre wasting schneiders best years
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

May 31 @ 5:18 PM ET


So according to Eklund the price for Hannifin would be Kapanen.


If that was the price 30 other teams would have paid it.
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

May 31 @ 5:24 PM ET
So according to Eklund the price for Hannifin would be Kapanen.


If that was the price 30 other teams would have paid it.

- classic321


They could sign Grabner for like 2.5mil and hold onto Hanifin if that's all they wanted
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 31 @ 5:39 PM ET
Some people (not you) have a difficulty of understanding that is he was that good he wouldn't be getting traded.
- VANTEL

People have a difference of opinion. That's fine as well. If the herd says one thing you better have something to bring back to the herd so they see otherwise.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

May 31 @ 5:43 PM ET
lol I'm for and against. He is trending up but there is no guarantee he will be a solid 50 point Dman like OEL for eg.

If we could get him for 'just' the 7OA pick Benning would have to look at it...but on the other hand if he is being fleeced for sweetener we may need to stay away from that deal.

- LordHumungous


The gamble in this really is what you get picking 7. You know in Hanifin you have a top 4 that fits a fast possession/transition style game with upside still.

You can get everything Hanifin offers in Dobson I think without risk. It's the PP ability that makes it more sense to pick Dobson over the trade. Or else why wait to develop what you could just grab in Hanifin who is Boeser's age only. Neither player to me seems like they have any kind of elite talents like Hughes skating and insane puck possession magic or Boqvist' shot. Could Hughes turn out like Yannek Weber(that's who Vantel was trying to remember)? Small speedy can score but a crappy player. Maybe. Could Boqvist show he has elite skill but continue with getting concussed and be useless? Maybe... Could Bouchard fail to play the same top minutes in the NHL because he can't keep up with other teams top lines? Probably lol...

Sometimes the gamble isnt worth it. I gamble on Hughes way before Boqvist. Dobson checks every box we could possibly check at 7 even with the trade. Speed, Size, 5 on 5 offence, PP producer, excellent defending, great transition, joins the rush.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

May 31 @ 5:48 PM ET
It's obvious that Bloated is Freidman's burner account.
- Marwood



DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

May 31 @ 5:55 PM ET
The gamble in this really is what you get picking 7. You know in Hanifin you have a top 4 that fits a fast possession/transition style game with upside still.

You can get everything Hanifin offers in Dobson I think without risk. It's the PP ability that makes it more sense to pick Dobson over the trade. Or else why wait to develop what you could just grab in Hanifin who is Boeser's age only. Neither player to me seems like they have any kind of elite talents like Hughes skating and insane puck possession magic or Boqvist' shot. Could Hughes turn out like Yannek Weber(that's who Vantel was trying to remember)? Small speedy can score but a crappy player. Maybe. Could Boqvist show he has elite skill but continue with getting concussed and be useless? Maybe... Could Bouchard fail to play the same top minutes in the NHL because he can't keep up with other teams top lines? Probably lol...

Sometimes the gamble isnt worth it. I gamble on Hughes way before Boqvist. Dobson checks every box we could possibly check at 7 even with the trade. Speed, Size, 5 on 5 offence, PP producer, excellent defending, great transition, joins the rush.

- boonerbuck


The thing is, we need more than Hanifin anyways, and we'd have to get rid of MDZ and Hutton to make room for him and OJ and we'd have to keep Tanev to keep the D respectable at least for this year and next while OJ and Hanifin adjust. Personally, I'd love to trade OJ straight up for Hanifin (not that Carolina would even consider it) and use the 7OA to take Dobson.

If it were me, I'd love to trade Tanev, Hutton, Gudbranson, MDZ for whatever picks we can get and sign veterans on 1-2 year cheap deals while we stock up on high risk/high reward D-men in the draft and let them develop. I'm fine with sucking 2 years until the new D-core is able to gel.
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