Headlines Predictions:

June 30: Isles Announce JT Has Signed Prior to Deadline With Hometown Discount

July 3: Lou Announces Resignation Due To Incubated Toronto Virus Symptoms

July 5: Malkin Announces Due To Economic Collapse He Will Move Permanently To London to Manage Properties. Also announces his team share has been sold back to Charles Wang at severe discount.

July 7: Ledecky Holds Press Conference: Belmont Will Be Built After Economic Recovery...New architectural design includes a lighthouse shaped like a pagoda .also. Snow has assumed team presidency as well as GM duties.

September 1: Noel Fogelman released from South Florida rehab for depression treatment. Has revelation that he is now a Panthers fan and released into custody of Head Coach Capuano.

Headlines Predictions:

June 30: Isles Announce JT Has Signed Prior to Deadline With Hometown Discount

July 3: Lou Announces Resignation Due To Incubated Toronto Virus Symptoms

July 5: Malkin Announces Due To Economic Collapse He Will Move Permanently To London to Manage Properties. Also announces his team share has been sold back to Charles Wang at severe discount.

July 7: Ledecky Holds Press Conference: Belmont Will Be Built After Economic Recovery...New architectural design includes a lighthouse shaped like a pagoda .also. Snow has assumed team presidency as well as GM duties.

September 1: Noel Fogelman released from South Florida rehab for depression treatment. Has revelation that he is now a Panthers fan and released into custody of Head Coach Capuano.
- Fan101

This was absolutely brutal

This was absolutely brutal
- Vukota

seriously

With respect to the “Garth Snow can’t win” part, he brought that on himself. He’s had 12 years to get this franchise over the hump of being s middling franchise, clawing for a wild card spot each year, and falling short twice as often as actually making the playoffs. Any success the Isles have going forward will clearly not be the result of snow’s efforts, since Snow’s “success” has been significantly muted the past 12 years. Simply put, Snow has had very little “success”. If the isles become a perennial playoff contender in the coming years, it certainly won’t be because of what Snow did for the past 12 years.

Headlines Predictions:

June 30: Isles Announce JT Has Signed Prior to Deadline With Hometown Discount

July 3: Lou Announces Resignation Due To Incubated Toronto Virus Symptoms

July 5: Malkin Announces Due To Economic Collapse He Will Move Permanently To London to Manage Properties. Also announces his team share has been sold back to Charles Wang at severe discount.

July 7: Ledecky Holds Press Conference: Belmont Will Be Built After Economic Recovery...New architectural design includes a lighthouse shaped like a pagoda .also. Snow has assumed team presidency as well as GM duties.

September 1: Noel Fogelman released from South Florida rehab for depression treatment. Has revelation that he is now a Panthers fan and released into custody of Head Coach Capuano.
- Fan101

This is the best part by far

Someone explain to me how removing Snow & Weight from the equation hurts the chances of retaining JT? You hear about how JT is really close with both of those guys and he likes playing for them. If that was the case wouldn't he have signed by now? He hasn't signed because he is sick of playing for a team going nowhere. Malkin finally realizes JT might walk because of this so he brings in Lou. JT wants to win more then wanting Snow & Weight to stay and that's why he has one foot out the door and rightfully so. Lou then goes and meets with JT while Snow and Weight are left in the dark. From all accounts JT was happy with the move and even talked with Lou.

So again tell me why its important to keep these two to help JT stay? I know at the end of the day Snow might stay on because all you hear is how close he and Lou are but its business and obviously Lou knows how to separate the two because meeting with JT behind the back of Snow is cold blooded and not something so called good friends would do to each other, but from a business stand point it was the right move and that's why Lou is Lou.
- Vukota

Lets be honest: I agree that before Lou was hired, JT had one foot out the door already. If he was happy with the Snow regime, he would be re-signed already. He can get the most years from the isles and I think it’s safe to say that the isles won’t be low-balling him.

Lou coming in to run the show is the only reason the isles still have a chance at re-signing JT. Lou has a great reputation around the league and brings credibility as well as a track record for winning. Agreed, Snow and weight being in charge would do more to shove JT out the door than to keep him here.

With respect to the “Garth Snow can’t win” part, he brought that on himself. He’s had 12 years to get this franchise over the hump of being s middling franchise, clawing for a wild card spot each year, and falling short twice as often as actually making the playoffs. Any success the Isles have going forward will clearly not be the result of snow’s efforts, since Snow’s “success” has been significantly muted the past 12 years. Simply put, Snow has had very little “success”. If the isles become a perennial playoff contender in the coming years, it certainly won’t be because of what Snow did for the past 12 years.
- Jethro09

Garth has failed on so many levels. He had plenty of money to spend on this team since L&M bought the team. Garth thought it was a good idea to hire Cappy and keep him for years and then hire Doug when Gallant was available. It's never been about winning for Garth. It's been about hiring people that would not challenge him.

If he wanted to walk, he would've requested a trade at the deadline. Business-wise it wouldn't make sense for him to not do that cause he'd be only given 7 years should he hit the open market.
- bgainesDM

Not necessarily. But by that rationale If he wanted to stay, he would have re-signed already. No way he was committed to returning with Snow in charge.

Garth has failed on so many levels. He had plenty of money to spend on this team since L&M bought the team. Garth thought it was a good idea to hire Cappy and keep him for years and then hire Doug when Gallant was available. It's never been about winning for Garth. It's been about hiring people that would not challenge him.
- ses111

The last sentence sums it up perfect. It's not by accident that this insecure clown has never hired a head coach with any NHL head coaching experience. It's a joke and because nobody cares about this team he got away with it

With respect to the “Garth Snow can’t win” part, he brought that on himself. He’s had 12 years to get this franchise over the hump of being s middling franchise, clawing for a wild card spot each year, and falling short twice as often as actually making the playoffs. Any success the Isles have going forward will clearly not be the result of snow’s efforts, since Snow’s “success” has been significantly muted the past 12 years. Simply put, Snow has had very little “success”. If the isles become a perennial playoff contender in the coming years, it certainly won’t be because of what Snow did for the past 12 years.
- Jethro09

This

Well, let's just look at HOW many teams fire staff (GM/coach) when their top player is about to be a free agent. I can't recall one off the bat, can you? I mean star player here.

Weight has been working with team, besides played with team, for a while now. Garth drafted JT. And JT is a loyal guy. And I'm not the only one that says this... this has been also shared by TSN and other folks too.

So, here is a guy who can go anywhere he wants... and you want to fire staff and start from scratch IF you feel you must keep JT at all costs???

I know fans prefer this, I get it. BUT now add this complex situation to the equation.

Also... if Snow was a goner... wouldn't have he just been fired on day 1. Why prolong it? Lou could easily upheave and deal with it as Lou always does.

Also, and Elliotte Friedman mentioned this... does Malkin WANT Snow fired when he might have to eat not only a buy-out of the contract... but penalties as well. (he called it: "poison pill")

So seems to be there are a lot of complex and overlapping issues here that don't make it very easy to just can him outright. Now we can also add Lou's own words in the interviews... "evaluation".

So this also gives a sense that he must look over items and correct what is wrong. Now fans THINK they know what is wrong. WRITERS do too. What will Lou think, and then subsequently, do? Any $20 million or so buyout (assume Snow gets $3 mill a year, plus penalty that equals $5 mill (and he has 5+ more years btw)... that is $20 million to buy him out.

It doesn't matter what Lou does or thinks, he can't just boot Snow without Malkin being willing to pay that out. Malkin controls the wallet.

If JT resigns, in that ignorant vacuum everyone will act like it was because of Lou, btw. But, for a guy who DID NOT want to be dealt, seems to me that he was just waiting to see what happens and take his time (prob at agents behest, who is an old hand at these things).

JT's closest on-team friends are Clutterbuck and Josh Bailey. Notice those longterm deals.

JT is out with Clutter all the time.

And last spring, JT himself told people around him he was moving from Manhasset to Garden City so he could be closer to Belmont.

Sure... things can change. But seems to me far more likely he remains, and whatever fans personal narratives are will skew some of those items to fit a framework... but doesn't seem like he is a goner to me. Even before Lou.
- B.D. Gallof

All this analysis said, JT has been able to sign an extension with the isles, the team that drafted him being run by the GM who drafted him and the coach he lived with and purportedly likes for the past year. He hasn’t re-signed. Even after Belmont was resolved, JT still didn’t re-sign. And I don’t necessarily blame him. If he wanted to return to this s**tshow under Snow, he could have at any time over the past year and hasn’t. No way the isles would not give him 8yrs and a blank check if he asked for it. All of this points to the logical conclusion that JT hasn’t re-signed because he didn’t believe this team was on track to win under snow’s Leadership, and I feel the same way.

The last sentence sums it up perfect. It's not by accident that this insecure clown has never hired a head coach with any NHL head coaching experience. It's a joke and because nobody cares about this team he got away with it
- Vukota

Wang knew exactly what he was doing hiring a Backup goalie as GM. Wang did not want anymore GM's like Neil Smith and Garth did not want anymore coaches like Ted Nolan. How even one person can defend Garth is beyond me.

All this analysis said, JT has been able to sign an extension with the isles, the team that drafted him being run by the GM who drafted him and the coach he lived with and purportedly likes for the past year. He hasn’t re-signed. Even after Belmont was resolved, JT still didn’t re-sign. And I don’t necessarily blame him. If he wanted to return to this s**tshow under Snow, he could have at any time over the past year and hasn’t. No way the isles would give him 8yrs and a blank check if he asked for it. All of this points to the logical conclusion that JT hasn’t re-signed because he didn’t believe this team was on track to win under snow’s Leadership, and I feel the same way.
- Jethro09

Agreed and my thought is Lou is here 100% to get jt to stay and show the owners are legit about winning

Wang knew exactly what he was doing hiring a Backup goalie as GM. Wang did not want anymore GM's like Neil Smith and Garth did not want anymore coaches like Ted Nolan. How even one person can defend Garth is beyond me.
- ses111

Why wouldnt they all to want to win? Maybe they are really all just this stupid and inept at their jobs

Why wouldnt they all to want to win? Maybe they are really all just this stupid and inept at their jobs
- Upstate_isles

You cannot be serious about winning if you hire a backup goalie and you hire and keep Cappy for years among other things. Garth played the game and he is educated. He knew full well the people he was hiring were not the best. Garth sleeping during the last trade deadline when JT can walk says it all.

Agreed and my thought is Lou is here 100% to get jt to stay and show the owners are legit about winning
- Upstate_isles

I’m not saying that Lou is the greatest executive in the league, but he’s damn close. And he is EXACTLY what the isles needed to hire: a credible name with a track record for significant success at the NHL level. He brings credibility to an organization that desperately needed it after the clown car antics of this organization the past 12 or so years. Even if JT walks, at least You can say the isles did something right to try to keep JT AND I have total confidence that Lou would be a great guy to have running the show to kick off a potential post-JT Era, certainly better than Snow would be.

I guess
- Vukota

That's for nothing (frank)face

That's for nothing (frank)face
- eichiefs9

I go away for a few days and chief has a Garth Avatar?

That's for nothing (frank)face
- eichiefs9

What's for nothing?

I’m not saying that Lou is the greatest executive in the league, but he’s damn close. And he is EXACTLY what the isles needed to hire: a credible name with a track record for significant success at the NHL level. He brings credibility to an organization that desperately needed it after the clown car antics of this organization the past 12 or so years. Even if JT walks, at least You can say the isles did something right to try to keep JT AND I have total confidence that Lou would be a great guy to have running the show to kick off a potential post-JT Era, certainly better than Snow would be.
- Jethro09

I concur

What's for nothing?
- Vukota

I was on my phone and it autocorrected it to that's. I meant thanks.

I blame this entirely on you.

I was on my phone and it autocorrected it to that's. I meant thanks.

I blame this entirely on you.
- eichiefs9

He was probably taking over for noel anyhow but blaming mick works too

I was on my phone and it autocorrected it to that's. I meant thanks.

I blame this entirely on you.
- eichiefs9

I'll tell you what though. I've never seen somebody flip flop for someone like Upstate Isles has for this guy.

I'll tell you what though. I've never seen somebody flip flop for someone like Upstate Isles has for this guy.
- Vukota

Allegations




I said many things that were negative in the past two weeks on Twitter to be honest I just haven't on here yet

Allegations




I said many things that were negative in the past two weeks on Twitter to be honest I just haven't on here yet
- Upstate_isles