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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 26 @ 4:03 PM ET
Guhle, obviously.





Honestly, I don't care about age, they're all in their primes or yet to reach them. Beaulieu is the worst of the bunch. And neither Guhle nor Pilut have done anything. Aside from dropping Beaulieu I think anything else as far as getting rid of someone without bringing someone back would be hasty.

- Wetbandit1



Id say Guhle has done enough to earn a 3rd pair role next year. Scandella, McCabe and Beaulieu are the only ones who have more or less hit their ceilings and Id say mccabe is the best of that bunch in terms of value to the team
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 26 @ 4:09 PM ET
I think Sam thinks he's a 7m+ player and wants nothing to do with a long term deal that pays him significantly less. I'd be shocked if this didn't end with a bridge deal.
- Lunaion


What makes you think that regarding Sam, out of curiosity?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 26 @ 4:10 PM ET
Id say mccabe is the best of that bunch in terms of value to the team
- Sabresfan-365

and he would probably bring us the biggest return in a trade
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 26 @ 4:13 PM ET
Id say Guhle has done enough to earn a 3rd pair role next year. Scandella, McCabe and Beaulieu are the only ones who have more or less hit their ceilings and Id say mccabe is the best of that bunch in terms of value to the team
- Sabresfan-365


I think McCabe still has a little more room to develop and grow.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 26 @ 4:14 PM ET
What makes you think that regarding Sam, out of curiosity?
- kingcong39

his name is sam, not leon
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 26 @ 4:25 PM ET
I think McCabe still has a little more room to develop and grow.
- kingcong39



I think he can become a bit more polished but i see him as a decent 2nd pair option right now.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 26 @ 4:28 PM ET
and he would probably bring us the biggest return in a trade
- homiedclown



Fixing the D should still be the number one priority. Anything that makes it worse is not in our best interest.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 26 @ 4:30 PM ET
Fixing the D should still be the number one priority. Anything that makes it worse is not in our best interest.
- Sabresfan-365


I have no idea what else it would take aside from ROR, but if they could somehow get Juolevi and the 7th overall from Vancouver, that would go a long way to helping the organizational depth at defense. I say that not knowing what the current outlook is on Juolevi.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 26 @ 4:33 PM ET
I have no idea what else it would take aside from ROR, but if they could somehow get Juolevi and the 7th overall from Vancouver, that would go a long way to helping the organizational depth at defense. I say that not knowing what the current outlook is on Juolevi.
- kingcong39



it's not great. he just hasn't put it together and doesn't really have the upside offensively that people once assumed.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 26 @ 4:35 PM ET
it's not great. he just hasn't put it together and doesn't really have the upside offensively that people once assumed.
- Sabresfan-365


Not great as in a bottom pairing D man?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 26 @ 4:39 PM ET
Not great as in a bottom pairing D man?
- kingcong39


I don't know his ceiling could still probably be 2nd pair, his D+1 year was a little rough considering he played for london.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 26 @ 4:53 PM ET
your last paragraph is exactly what I am trying to say

we could have our poor man's bossy, trottier, the stud in our case is on the dot


then put kessel with ror, to open that line up with speed

casey, eichel, reinhart
nylander-ror-kessel
vanek, e-rod, baptiste
wilson, larsson, okposo/pommer/bailey




BOOM

- homiedclown


Switch Vanek out and put Bailey in that spot and I’m all for it.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 26 @ 4:56 PM ET
So what's the Kessel trade?

Girgensons, Nylander and 32?

Or sjs pick involved?
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 26 @ 5:05 PM ET
So what's the Kessel trade?

Girgensons, Nylander and 32?

Or sjs pick involved?

- jcragcrumple


My best bet would be Girgensons, McCabe, SJS 1st
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 26 @ 5:11 PM ET
So what's the Kessel trade?

Girgensons, Nylander and 32?

Or sjs pick involved?

- jcragcrumple



It's not
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 26 @ 5:11 PM ET
My best bet would be Girgensons, McCabe, SJS 1st
- Pegullaville


dude scored 92 points last year
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 26 @ 5:15 PM ET
dude scored 92 points last year
- Sabresfan-365

Girgensons, Baptiste, McCabe, 32, SJS 1st.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 26 @ 5:21 PM ET
Girgensons, Baptiste, McCabe, 32, SJS 1st.
- Pegullaville


it's going to cost so much more than anyone would want to give up, you'd be buying way above his actual worth at 32 years old because he had a career year.

That and we're not even sure he'd accept a trade here.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 26 @ 5:23 PM ET
it's going to cost so much more than anyone would want to give up, you'd be buying way above his actual worth at 32 years old because he had a career year.

That and we're not even sure he'd accept a trade here.

- Sabresfan-365



He's 30 now. He'll be 31 in October
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 26 @ 5:27 PM ET
Here's mine:

Mcabe and 32 for Daley and Athanasiou.

Maybe add a prospect - nylander, etc
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 26 @ 5:29 PM ET
He's 30 now. He'll be 31 in October
- jcragcrumple



good catch, but i think that makes it worse. Unless they get a haul, there's really no reason to move him
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 26 @ 5:30 PM ET
Here's mine:

Mcabe and 32 for Daley and Athanasiou.

Maybe add a prospect - nylander, etc

- jcragcrumple



Athanasiou doesn't really bring enough to the table to justify moving the best 2nd round pick (which is essentially first overall after a few calculations)

Daley sucks
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 26 @ 5:31 PM ET
Here's mine:

Mcabe and 32 for Daley and Athanasiou.

Maybe add a prospect - nylander, etc

- jcragcrumple

give them fasching and criscuolo to sweeten the pot
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 26 @ 5:32 PM ET
Athanasiou doesn't really bring enough to the table to justify moving the best 2nd round pick (which is essentially first overall after a few calculations)

Daley sucks

- Sabresfan-365

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 26 @ 5:34 PM ET
Athanasiou doesn't really bring enough to the table to justify moving the best 2nd round pick (which is essentially first overall after a few calculations)

Daley sucks

- Sabresfan-365



Eh, ive always liked Daley. Admittedly, he's on the back-9 of his career.

We'd still have

Scandella-Risto
Dahlin-Nelson
Guhle-Bogo
Daley
Beaulieu

AA helps our top-6 immensely
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