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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 26 @ 1:34 PM ET
OJ is a slick D that will fill a hole.
Guds is locked up and fills that big D hole.
Demko will cock block and keep the opposition from scoring.
Peterson, boeser and bo will score from the front, bodqvist will pound it from the rear with way more force then a little D gets credit for.

- Pres.cup



Shouldn't you be babysitting
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 26 @ 1:35 PM ET
Stechers problem is his muffin shot.
- VANTEL

ANd his defensive coverage, and his Chicken little the sky is falling chasing puck carriers around.

I know it’s just banter about who should be traded, but Tanev should stay as a DEFENSIVE dman and Hutton and everyone’s new favourite Stecher should be traded.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 26 @ 1:36 PM ET
Stecher is one of the best pk in the league ? Really ?
- Redmile247

Some guys really like him
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 26 @ 1:37 PM ET
yes thats what Im saying as well.
I was surprised they even made this one, there'd be much better star wars stories to make with yoda being the most needed and likely best story

- myself


I disagree, solo and boba fet have the best back stories in the expanded universe.

Yoda is the jar jar of 4to 6.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 26 @ 1:37 PM ET
I am all for trading Tanev this year but I wouldn't mind seeing him play with OJ for six months to get him started
- VANTEL

The last thing I want OJ to be is like Tanev.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 26 @ 1:38 PM ET
Yes, in his first season he showed he has offensive instincts. Second season stats show he was actually one of the best penalty killers in the league, took him awhile to earn Greens trust, but im willing to bet Stech breaks out this year.
- phyllee


Those same stats that Canucks Army used for Stetcher on the PK show that Hutton is one of the best defenders on the team at 5v5 so...yea.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 26 @ 1:38 PM ET
https://canucksarmy.com/2018/05/04/stecher-pk/
- phyllee


That’s impressive ...I wouldn’t have thought that of him from just watching him play
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 26 @ 1:39 PM ET
That’s impressive ...I wouldn’t have thought that of him from just watching him play
- Redmile247

See post above lol
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 26 @ 1:40 PM ET
You're getting him for Bennett and a first... err... a second.... oh snap.... you don't have any picks left.
- Pres.cup


Your getting Bennett for your first 😝....there now we have some picks 😉
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 26 @ 1:42 PM ET
Goldy and Dolly for Hansen and burrows is better then the 2 thirds that he would have got as picks. Same with lipstick and what's his name for scraps and old scraps. Have patience with vantel, he's building up the prospect pool and we'll be competitive before you know it.
- Pres.cup

The Dahlen move is great, hopefully, Goldobin was good as well, he's a good player. Leipsic is a good move too. However. We're talking about kids with potential right now, not proven young guys where you can say, "ok, we've arrived at the next step".

For me I want to see what those kids can do this year and then maybe say that. I'm just not there yet.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 26 @ 1:44 PM ET
Lol - two seconds is not a steal! Benning would be run out of town if he made that trade. Move him at the tdl after he plays w OJ for 2/3rds of a season
- CanuckDon

No.....take the two seconds and the prospect! Draft three times in the second round this year and be happy because you'll get a couple good players and you're a year ahead of next years draft.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 26 @ 1:45 PM ET
The Dahlen move is great, hopefully, Goldobin was good as well, he's a good player. Leipsic is a good move too. However. We're talking about kids with potential right now, not proven young guys where you can say, "ok, we've arrived at the next step".

For me I want to see what those kids can do this year and then maybe say that. I'm just not there yet.

- LeftCoaster



But the fact is they will be here next year and you need to surround them with players like Tanev Edler Bo and Sutter to ease them into the league.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 26 @ 1:45 PM ET
I am using last years team . Hutton out OJ in . Neilssen out Demko in . Henrik out EP in . There should not be that big of a falloff seeing those players did not have wonderful years.
- VANTEL


I can see what your trying to do ...but realistically all 3 won’t be improvements for one reason or another ...2/3 sure I can see it ...but whether it’s injuries or player just not being nhl ready yet indiubt all 3 have better years
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 26 @ 1:46 PM ET
But the fact is they will be here next year and you need to surround them with players like Tanev Edler Bo and Sutter to ease them into the league.
- VANTEL

Trading Tanev is not going to change that, they don't need him to develop young kids. Might as well see if the twins want to play another year.

Gudbranson is a vet, Edler is a vet, MDZ is a vet and you can sign another vet if required.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 26 @ 1:47 PM ET
No.....take the two seconds and the prospect!
- LeftCoaster


Don is right. 2 seconds for Tanev is mediocre.


It’s a tough spot because it makes sense to shop him based on his age/durability, but his value is likely lower than it should be.

Philly is in a similar spot with Simmonds

Imo both GM’s should hold until the TDL
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 26 @ 1:47 PM ET
I can see what your trying to do ...but realistically all 3 won’t be improvements for one reason or another ...2/3 sure I can see it ...but whether it’s injuries or player just not being nhl ready yet indiubt all 3 have better years
- Redmile247



We finished 6 th last year , It is not a bold statement to say we will finish 2 spots higher
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 26 @ 1:48 PM ET
Those same stats that Canucks Army used for Stetcher on the PK show that Hutton is one of the best defenders on the team at 5v5 so...yea.
- Nucker101


Remember when fancy stats made Jake gardiner look like a Norris trophy candidate a year or two ago ....that was neat lol
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 26 @ 1:48 PM ET
But the fact is they will be here next year and you need to surround them with players like Tanev Edler Bo and Sutter to ease them into the league.
- VANTEL

This too


I’d rather try to unload MDZ at the TDL for a 2nd instead of Tanev for 2 seconds.

Maybe play MDZ with Tanev to increase his value
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

May 26 @ 1:49 PM ET
See post above lol
- Nucker101


Haha done and done
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 26 @ 1:49 PM ET
Don is right. 2 seconds for Tanev is mediocre.


It’s a tough spot because it makes sense to shop him based on his age/durability, but his value is likely lower than it should be.

Philly is in a similar spot with Simmonds

Imo both GM’s should hold until the TDL

- Nucker101

I don't think he's worth more than that for two reasons 1) other GM's take advantage of Benning .... 2) his injury history right now.

To me they need to take a high 1st for him or get two 2nd's, they don't need him next year, they do need the picks IMO though!
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 26 @ 1:50 PM ET
Remember when fancy stats made Jake gardiner look like a Norris trophy candidate a year or two ago ....that was neat lol
- Redmile247


And they said Cody Franson was a legit top 4 dman who couldn’t get a contract until September lol


They are flawed for sure, some newer ones are pretty good(I like the zone entry ones), but just looking at corsi alone is stupid

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 26 @ 1:52 PM ET
I don't think he's worth more than that for two reasons 1) other GM's take advantage of Benning 2) his injury history right now.

To me they need to take a high 1st for him or get two 2nd's, they don't need him next year, they do need the picks IMO though!

- LeftCoaster

So basically sell low due to impatience
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 26 @ 1:53 PM ET
So basically sell low due to impatience
- Nucker101

Sell because you need to take advantage of getting the picks and building for the future. Stop sitting around waiting for things to happen, make them happen!!

Selling Tanev won't affect the present one bit.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 26 @ 1:54 PM ET
So basically sell low due to impatience
- Nucker101


I don't know how many times today I wanted to say Patience Lefty
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 26 @ 1:54 PM ET
Sell because you need to take advantage of getting the picks and building for the future. Stop sitting around waiting for things to happen, make them happen!!
- LeftCoaster

So basically sell low due to impatience
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