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Forums :: Blog World :: Ryan Wilson: Trading Phil Kessel should be a yearly topic, but not like this
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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 25 @ 2:54 PM ET
Oh wow a professor ! Please go on
- Twisted_schism


Welp, considering he was a professor of anthropology and actually studied human adaptations and evolutionary changes, let's just go with he knows more than you about that and a whole lot more
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

May 25 @ 2:55 PM ET
I heard Kessel went into a restaurant, and he ate all the food in the restaurant, and they had to close the restaurant.
- Zezel

What kind of restaurant? Hot dogs? Yeah I can see that. Sushi? Not so much.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

May 25 @ 2:56 PM ET
Welp, considering he was a professor of anthropology and actually studied human adaptations and evolutionary changes, let's just go with he knows more than you about that and a whole lot more
- AllInForFlyers


Fake news.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

May 25 @ 3:01 PM ET
Fake news.
- Iggysbff


Isn't it all, really?

Nothing is ever really true or false, anymore. Just how you see it at the moment
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

May 25 @ 3:24 PM ET
What kind of restaurant? Hot dogs? Yeah I can see that. Sushi? Not so much.
- Iggysbff


Pittsburgh salad.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 25 @ 3:47 PM ET
I heard Kessel went into a restaurant, and he ate all the food in the restaurant, and they had to close the restaurant.
- Zezel



As said by the great Ralph Wiggum;

zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

May 25 @ 3:57 PM ET
Didn't Kessel play banged up all season long?

Man, The man was 2nd in Goals, 2nd in assist, 2nd in points, played in all 82 games for Pittsburgh and he get to respect. He's the Rodney Dangerfield of the NHL.

Anyone spare a hot dog. I got the munchies now.


Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

May 25 @ 4:03 PM ET
In a serious thought I just read Vegas blog. Pretty much what I’ve always thought about possession stats. A team can fire cream puffs in the ozone all game. Getting one good scoring chance where Reaves is screening the net>10 minutes of perimeter play in the o zone.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 25 @ 4:04 PM ET
Welp, considering he was a professor of anthropology and actually studied human adaptations and evolutionary changes, let's just go with he knows more than you about that and a whole lot more
- AllInForFlyers

Did he even lift though?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 25 @ 4:05 PM ET
In a serious thought I just read Vegas blog. Pretty much what I’ve always thought about possession stats. A team can fire cream puffs in the ozone all game. Getting one good scoring chance where Reaves is screening the net>10 minutes of perimeter play in the o zone.
- Grinder47

Just so you know shot location is one of the most valued things in the analytics community.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

May 25 @ 4:20 PM ET
Just so you know shot location is one of the most valued things in the analytics community.
- Feds91Stammer

Is that where people dress up in their favorite animal costume and screw each other? I think they have a convention in Pittsburgh every year?
sditulli
Joined: 02.09.2015

May 25 @ 4:21 PM ET
Not at UFA values. 7 years 49 on kane I have no interest in. He's only had a few years worth that price and he seems like the kinda guy who gets paid and then falls off a cliff.

I'd be scared to do anything more than 3 years 18 on kane.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 25 @ 4:28 PM ET
Just so you know shot location is one of the most valued things in the analytics community.
- Feds91Stammer


People are still stuck in the thought that Corsi is the only stat that exists in the analytics community.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

May 25 @ 4:32 PM ET
Not at UFA values. 7 years 49 on kane I have no interest in. He's only had a few years worth that price and he seems like the kinda guy who gets paid and then falls off a cliff.

I'd be scared to do anything more than 3 years 18 on kane.

- sditulli


racist
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

May 25 @ 4:35 PM ET
Most hated player who had 9 points in 12 playoff games in a single postseason.

Apparently, .75 points a game in a playoff run is super bad or something.



Like, his "worst" here was .75 points per game in the playoffs, on a team where ONLY the top line and powerplay scored for an entire series. Lighten up people.
Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

May 25 @ 4:35 PM ET
People are still stuck in the thought that Corsi is the only stat that exists in the analytics community.
- j.boyd919

People can still watch and understand hockey. Nhl coaches, me. I’m sure others.
Corntoast
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 03.14.2018

May 25 @ 4:37 PM ET
He's not going to be traded after one sub par playoff...who ever thinks he is doesnt know anything about hockey
leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 05.11.2014

May 25 @ 4:38 PM ET
I heard Kessel went into a restaurant, and he ate all the food in the restaurant, and they had to close the restaurant.


I heard it was a hot dog stand in Toronto
leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 05.11.2014

May 25 @ 4:43 PM ET
I'm a big supporter of trading Phil. Retain 1.2 of his salary and we will give you back Kapanen, an ahl scrub d-man like Marincin, and this year's first. Ship him back to Toronto where he can set the hockey world in Canada back on fire and still get dumped on in every blog on the internet.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 25 @ 4:45 PM ET
People can still watch and understand hockey. Nhl coaches, me. I’m sure others.
- Grinder47


Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somerset, PA
Joined: 10.20.2013

May 25 @ 5:02 PM ET

- j.boyd919

Analytics = crutch. My leg isn’t broken
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

May 25 @ 5:03 PM ET
I'm a big supporter of trading Phil. Retain 1.2 of his salary and we will give you back Kapanen, an ahl scrub d-man like Marincin, and this year's first. Ship him back to Toronto where he can set the hockey world in Canada back on fire and still get dumped on in every blog on the internet.
- leafsfann



Hmmm... how about you guys take back Hunwick, give us Jake Gardiner at half retained (cause you love eating money for us) and we will still take the first.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 25 @ 5:05 PM ET
Analytics = crutch. My leg isn’t broken
- Grinder47


Nah.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

May 25 @ 5:24 PM ET
From last blog:

Rickard Rakell + Josh Manson (or Brandon Montour)

for

Phil Kessel + Matt Hunwick (or Conor Sheary)
- Barnaby36


That's an easy yes for me. Maybe it's just me because I'm a big fan of both players, but seems like the Ducks wouldn't do this.

Pens get a left winger, on a great contract, who is younger, speedy, and a 30 goal scorer. And we get a talented, hard nosed RH Dman...anddd we dump some deadweight salary. That sure checks all the boxes. I don't want to trade Phil but that'd be the kind of deal I would drive him to the airport.

@YouMeAndDupuis9

I wouldn't want to trade Kessel either but there was a reason I posted this kind of trade. This is a deal I'd be willing to entertain.

Perry/Getzlaf/Kesler are all above 30 and they are in a win now mode. Kessel would be a great fit there + getting Sheary or Hunwick. Rackell and Manson would be all we'd be looking for for a reasonable cap hit.

Anyway, just an idea. I liked this one.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

May 25 @ 5:25 PM ET
With the exception of Sidney Crosby, and to a lesser extent Evgeni Malkin, the Penguins should always think about the idea of trading/replacing any player on the roster. But that doesn't mean they should actively pursue all of them, simply to consider them.
- jmatchett383

Absolutely. Smart business.
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