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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 24 @ 3:51 PM ET
You're like that 30 yr old loser that still trys to get autographs from players arent you?

F That whole team.

- joecool2931

LOL WUT
Doogs
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 24 @ 3:57 PM ET
They are the NHL and NBC’s favorites, why wouldn’t they win? They were gifted AT LEAST two games in every series so far. I am not happy they knocked the Pens out, but no one can deny that they have gotten there with help.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 24 @ 4:10 PM ET
They are the NHL and NBC’s favorites, why wouldn’t they win? They were gifted AT LEAST two games in every series so far. I am not happy they knocked the Pens out, but no one can deny that they have gotten there with help.
- Doogs


Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 24 @ 4:12 PM ET
They are the NHL and NBC’s favorites, why wouldn’t they win? They were gifted AT LEAST two games in every series so far. I am not happy they knocked the Pens out, but no one can deny that they have gotten there with help.
- Doogs

j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 24 @ 4:15 PM ET
You're like that 30 yr old loser that still trys to get autographs from players arent you?

F That whole team.

- joecool2931


huh? That's the conclusion you came up with there?

j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 24 @ 4:16 PM ET
They are the NHL and NBC’s favorites, why wouldn’t they win? They were gifted AT LEAST two games in every series so far. I am not happy they knocked the Pens out, but no one can deny that they have gotten there with help.
- Doogs


The irony...
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

May 24 @ 4:20 PM ET
Go Las Vegas MAF's.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

May 24 @ 4:20 PM ET
Madden is reporting from his sources that the Penguins will try to trade Kessel this summer. Say what you want about Madden, he doesn't typically make stuff up.

I'd rather keep Phil but since not much else going on in Pens land... anyone care to take a stab at teams that would actually trade for Kessel and what the return might be...
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 24 @ 4:24 PM ET
Madden is reporting from his sources that the Penguins will try to trade Kessel this summer. Say what you want about Madden, he doesn't even make stuff up.

I'd rather keep Phil but since not much else going on in Pens land... anyone care to take a stab at teams that would actually trade for Kessel and what the return might be...

- YouMeAndDupuis9

Madden is a complete moron and makes stuff up all the time.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 24 @ 4:36 PM ET
Madden is reporting from his sources that the Penguins will try to trade Kessel this summer. Say what you want about Madden, he doesn't even make stuff up.

I'd rather keep Phil but since not much else going on in Pens land... anyone care to take a stab at teams that would actually trade for Kessel and what the return might be...

- YouMeAndDupuis9


Mark Madden sucks ass. Dude flip flops on everything.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

May 24 @ 4:39 PM ET
Madden is a complete moron and makes stuff up all the time.
- Feds91Stammer


Okay, so we will just talk about nothing. Fun.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 24 @ 4:43 PM ET
Madden is reporting from his sources that the Penguins will try to trade Kessel this summer. Say what you want about Madden, he doesn't even make stuff up.

I'd rather keep Phil but since not much else going on in Pens land... anyone care to take a stab at teams that would actually trade for Kessel and what the return might be...

- YouMeAndDupuis9


Kessel at 50% retained, Letang at 99% retained, and 3 consecutive first round picks for Jori Lehtera and a 7th.
iworkatinitech
Joined: 11.12.2014

May 24 @ 4:48 PM ET
Kessel at 50% retained, Letang at 99% retained, and 3 consecutive first round picks for Jori Lehtera and a 7th.
- jmatchett383

You gotta sweeten that offer a bit, we need a veteran backup tender...add in Bryzgalov and it's a deal.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 24 @ 4:51 PM ET
You gotta sweeten that offer a bit, we need a veteran backup tender...add in Bryzgalov and it's a deal.
- iworkatinitech


Ah, sadly, he is no longer on our roster and is retired from the NHL. However, we do have a heavily-used Michael Neuvirth. He's usually good for a solid 2-3 games in a row before he misses a month with an injury.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 24 @ 4:52 PM ET
Okay, so we will just talk about nothing. Fun.
- YouMeAndDupuis9


Madden reported them looking to trade Geno before, and looking to trade Kessel last year. I don't really buy into his poop.
iworkatinitech
Joined: 11.12.2014

May 24 @ 4:54 PM ET
Ah, sadly, he is no longer on our roster and is retired from the NHL. However, we do have a heavily-used Michael Neuvirth. He's usually good for a solid 2-3 games in a row before he misses a month with an injury.
- jmatchett383



Do you have any extra rolls of tape lying around?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 24 @ 4:58 PM ET
Do you have any extra rolls of tape lying around?
- iworkatinitech


Yes, but you're gonna have to include some used Eric Goddard jock straps.
pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: BC
Joined: 10.01.2013

May 24 @ 5:36 PM ET
Madden is reporting from his sources that the Penguins will try to trade Kessel this summer. Say what you want about Madden, he doesn't typically make stuff up.

I'd rather keep Phil but since not much else going on in Pens land... anyone care to take a stab at teams that would actually trade for Kessel and what the return might be...

- YouMeAndDupuis9


I dont think Madden is great at all but I also doubt he just totally lies either. Freidman was saying a while back he wouldnt be surprised if Rutherford "listened" to offers on Kessel to.

I dont think its that bad of an idea really. As long as they get something back that helps them keep contending. From the charts and talk in here people say there is a sharp decline after the age of 30... Kessel will be 31 to start next season. With 4 more years at 6.8 million.... He just had a career season so thats usually called "selling high". Id bet he will be closer to 65-70 points next season then the 92 he posted this season. Still good no doubt. (92, 70, 59, 61 over the last 4 years) 3 of the last 4 with the penguins obviously. Some say he isnt worth to much and others say hes worth a lot so who knows. Would depend on the return for me.

Of course a couple analytics charts need to go with this....

http://lastwordonhockey.c...ider-a-phil-kessel-trade/
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 24 @ 5:42 PM ET
They are the NHL and NBC’s favorites, why wouldn’t they win? They were gifted AT LEAST two games in every series so far. I am not happy they knocked the Pens out, but no one can deny that they have gotten there with help.
- Doogs

Dude its (frank)ing obnoxious when other teams' fans do this to us. Don't do it to another team.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 24 @ 5:44 PM ET
Madden is reporting from his sources that the Penguins will try to trade Kessel this summer. Say what you want about Madden, he doesn't typically make stuff up.

I'd rather keep Phil but since not much else going on in Pens land... anyone care to take a stab at teams that would actually trade for Kessel and what the return might be...

- YouMeAndDupuis9

Mark Madden 100% makes stuff up. All the time. He's not dumb, but he is a pot stirring troll.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

May 24 @ 5:59 PM ET
Mark Madden 100% makes stuff up. All the time. He's not dumb, but he is a pot stirring troll.
- Victoro311


Right so we can only ever speculate trades on a hockey forum if it first comes from Bob Mackenzie. Why does the conversation have to be about Madden? Just wanted to see what y'all could come up with something logical in a Kessel deal. Logic is hard to come by around these parts.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

May 24 @ 6:03 PM ET
So Kunitz at 2m with thin scoring is better than Knuckles at league minimum & thinner scoring because his possession stats are better?

Ok.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 24 @ 6:05 PM ET
Right so we can only ever speculate trades on a hockey forum if it first comes from Bob Mackenzie. Why does the conversation have to be about Madden? Just wanted to see what y'all could come up with something logical in a Kessel deal. Logic is hard to come by around these parts.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Well if we want to talk about dealing Kessel (which I will riot if it actually happens) I can do that, but I had to respond to your "Madden doesn't make stuff up" comment. That would be like saying "Skip Bayless isn't a troll".

I'd want a young, top line caliber winger. Basically comparable to Jake Guentzel. A 1st round pick and an -A level prospect. Maybe we also swap a low round pick for a mid round pick as well.

EDIT: The prospect would preferably be a defenseman or a center.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

May 24 @ 6:09 PM ET
You're like that 30 yr old loser that still trys to get autographs from players arent you?

F That whole team.

- joecool2931




Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

May 24 @ 6:14 PM ET
Well if we want to talk about dealing Kessel (which I will riot if it actually happens) I can do that, but I had to respond to your "Madden doesn't make stuff up" comment. That would be like saying "Skip Bayless isn't a troll".

I'd want a young, top line caliber winger. Basically comparable to Jake Guentzel. A 1st round pick and an -A level prospect. Maybe we also swap a low round pick for a mid round pick as well.

EDIT: The prospect would preferably be a defenseman or a center.

- Victoro311


Would you trade Guentzy for Phil straight up?

Your deal doesn't exist my friend, but I understand why you put it out there.
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