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Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 23 @ 4:44 PM ET
I'll be honest, I couldn't decide so I put him in the mental category of untouchable
- jcragcrumple


There's a couple very close groupings, for sure.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 23 @ 4:48 PM ET
I haven't backred yet, so I apologize if this has been posted...

https://sports.yahoo.com/...ental-eval-181135623.html
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 23 @ 4:49 PM ET
You really don't. A hot average goalie is going to beat a good goalie playing normally.
- Wetbandit1


Is this like rock - paper - scissors - lizard - Spock?
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 23 @ 4:49 PM ET
I haven't backred yet, so I apologize if this has been posted...

https://sports.yahoo.com/...ental-eval-181135623.html

- Wetbandit1


Free Richie

That man was trespassing on HIS playground.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 23 @ 4:51 PM ET
Is this like rock - paper - scissors - lizard - Spock?
- RhinoFan


No, it's Antti Niemi vs Michael Leighton in the Stanley Cup Final.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 23 @ 4:54 PM ET
Free Richie

That man was trespassing on HIS playground.

- RhinoFan


He was always "off", but ranting about the gubment and throwing a dumbbell at a guy while screaming about his playground. Yeah, that's pretty serious.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 23 @ 4:54 PM ET
#1
Eichel
Mittlestadt
Risto
RoR
Sam
Guhle
Asplund
Nylander
Scandella
#32
Davidson
Ullmark
McCabe
Nelson
Borgen

- Lunaion


Solid list

Nelson maybe a bit low
McCabe falling out of favor. Hope he bounces back to old form. Ahead of scandella
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 23 @ 4:57 PM ET
No, it's Antti Niemi vs Michael Leighton in the Stanley Cup Final.
- Wetbandit1


Boy oh boy there's an example. How did that happen? That should not occur in any plane of existence.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 23 @ 5:00 PM ET
Solid list

Nelson maybe a bit low
McCabe falling out of favor. Hope he bounces back to old form. Ahead of scandella

- Boss34



It's about trade value, so I think Scandella is a rung above Nelson. I think Scandella is worth more than #32, but I debated that for sure. Nelson is worth less than #32, I have no question there.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 23 @ 5:01 PM ET
#1
Eichel
Mittlestadt
Risto
RoR
Sam
Guhle
Asplund
Nylander
Scandella
#32
Davidson
Ullmark
McCabe
Nelson
Borgen

- Lunaion


Matt Ellis
Matty Ellis
Matt Freaking Ellis
Mathew Ellis
Mateo Ellis
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 23 @ 5:16 PM ET
It's about trade value, so I think Scandella is a rung above Nelson. I think Scandella is worth more than #32, but I debated that for sure. Nelson is worth less than #32, I have no question there.
- Lunaion



I agree. Good list. I like where you have ror. His value seams less on the board.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 23 @ 5:19 PM ET
Boy oh boy there's an example. How did that happen? That should not occur in any plane of existence.
- RhinoFan


The "you need a good goalie" thing only happens when good goalies are involved and "you don't need a good goalie" thing only happens when good goalies aren't involved. When it was LA and NY it was "you need a good and expensive goalie" when they were both making $7M+. (Yes, I know Quick's hit is $5.8M but he's got a circumventing deal where he makes $49M in the first 7 years, evenly at $7M per and then only $9M total over the last 3 years. $3.5M, $3M, $2.5M)
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 23 @ 5:25 PM ET
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/704302

something i did, i need some thoughts

- zombres


Can’t imagine ARZ giving up on Domi for a 2nd

Grubauer will cost more than a 3rd, and his salary will be somewhere in the 4.5mil range
-just look at Talbot, Darling, etc for examples on what to base it on

For Carlson to come here, we'd most likely have to outbid others. Could be as much as 8mil per, and almost definitely a 7yr deal

McCabe for Sheary seems reasonable for both teams
I could see something like that happening

HATE the O’Reilly for Skinner trade
Skinner has an NMC clause
Way to risky to give up ROR for him-
injury history, age, contract status

And a big HELL NO on the Pouliot signing
Bailey & Baptiste no longer can go down to Rochester without clearing waivers
Let them battle for the spot
Pouliot has no future here...
one of the kids still might
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 23 @ 5:27 PM ET
I agree. Good list. I like where you have ror. His value seams less on the board.
- Boss34


Hmm...never got the feeling the trade-RoR crew would rate more than 1 slot lower. Always felt like the pro-RoR group would have him as high as #3.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 23 @ 5:28 PM ET
Can’t imagine ARZ giving up on Domi for a 2nd

Grubauer will cost more than a 3rd, and his salary will be somewhere in the 4.5mil range
-just look at Talbot, Darling, etc for examples on what to base it on

For Carlson to come here, we'd most likely have to outbid others. Could be as much as 8mil per, and almost definitely a 7yr deal

McCabe for Sheary seems reasonable for both teams
I could see something like that happening

HATE the O’Reilly for Skinner trade
Skinner has an NMC clause
Way to risky to give up ROR for him-
injury history, age, contract status

And a big HELL NO on the Pouliot signing
Bailey & Baptiste no longer can go down to Rochester without clearing waivers
Let them battle for the spot
Pouliot has no future here...
one of the kids still might

- jdfitz77



he hasn't played less than 77 games since 2013-14, where he played 71 and he's 26 years old.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 23 @ 5:29 PM ET
probably at Gerbe
- Whatnot78


😂😂😂
That made me LoL
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 23 @ 5:31 PM ET
I would make the call about Skinner, if anything just to start some dialog.
- SABRES 89


I’d wait till he’s UFA
Way to many risks to give up O’Reilly for him imo
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 23 @ 5:33 PM ET
Hmm...never got the feeling the trade-RoR crew would rate more than 1 slot lower. Always felt like the pro-RoR group would have him as high as #3.
- Lunaion



I guess is the "ror is a fine player" crowd.

I like risto at 3 ror at 4. The contract being part of it.

Wouldn't argue either way.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 23 @ 5:37 PM ET
Seems silly to use one injury history against someone but not use a more extensive injury history against someone else. Just me though.


My thought process is

use ROR + Prospect + another piece to get
Skinner and Faulk.

Highly unlikely but I would try to make the pitch to Carolina. Make the move after July 1, Carolina only owes 1MM to ROR rest of the year.

- ImThatGuy


Skinner too risky
Faulk is overrated

I get the idea you’re going for here
Just don’t like those particular players
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 23 @ 5:39 PM ET
Nylander, #32 and Scandella for Brayden Schenn and a 3rd


Close?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 23 @ 5:42 PM ET
Nylander, #32 and Scandella for Brayden Schenn and a 3rd


Close?

- jcragcrumple

Not really, they got him at a good price and he put up 28 goals and 70 points
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 23 @ 5:44 PM ET
Not really, they got him at a good price and he put up 28 goals and 70 points
- Sabresfan-365



He had a career year for sure. 2 years left on his deal. I'd go hard after him
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 23 @ 5:44 PM ET
I guess is the "ror is a fine player" crowd.

I like risto at 3 ror at 4. The contract being part of it.

Wouldn't argue either way.

- Boss34


I think Mittelstadt has a lock on #3. Really think those two are higher?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 23 @ 5:45 PM ET
He had a career year for sure. 2 years left on his deal. I'd go hard after him
- jcragcrumple

It’s probably gunna cost Reinhart+
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 23 @ 6:09 PM ET
It’s probably gunna cost Reinhart+
- Sabresfan-365


Hmm. That would be tough. I would offer Nylander, SJS 2019 first and (#32 or Rodrigues) for him and a 3rd

I like Erod a lot
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