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Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 22 @ 6:47 PM ET
Idk if it will happen...
but it’s my OPINION of what we SHOULD do

Bc that would maximize his numbers, thus increasing his trade value
Or at least making him tradable,
which he probably isn’t right now

- jdfitz77


Kind of ironic that you'd want to work so hard to maximize someone's trade value, but don't want to deal other players who are near their peak value and are against acquiring players at a low point in their value. Gotta jump in all the way if that's your game.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 22 @ 6:47 PM ET
Vanek scores 24 goals last year
17 & 18 the 2 previous years,
which is why he was stuck signing with Detroit & Vancouver
He had a good year last season though,
so he should have much better options in free agency this year

It’s not happening

I’ll bet u anything u want

- jdfitz77



You seem pretty confident. Makes me feel even more likely that vanek signs here.

Any particular reason except his speed issues?

Where is he going? That extra 6 goals last year will really open up the offers.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 22 @ 6:50 PM ET
Kind of ironic that you'd want to work so hard to maximize someone's trade value, but don't want to deal other players who are near their peak value and are against acquiring players at a low point in their value. Gotta jump in all the way if that's your game.
- Lunaion


Who?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 22 @ 6:55 PM ET
You seem pretty confident. Makes me feel even more likely that vanek signs here.

Any particular reason except his speed issues?

Where is he going? That extra 6 goals last year will really open up the offers.

- Boss34


The perception that someone just did “ok” when they score 17/18 goals vs having a “good” season scoring 24

That’s a pretty big % increase...
is it not?

You’re the one who says I’m wrong 98% of the time or whatever...
make the bet
Put your $$$ where your mouth is
(So to speak)


And it’s not just his speed issues
It’s adding ANOTHER slow player to a top9 that already includes ROR, Reinhart, Okposo & Pommer
Like i said though...
I’m cool with a 1 year deal, bc we could then trade him for a pick at the deadline

But i don’t think he’d even consider signing here
(Unless I’m wrong and no good teams make him any offers)
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 22 @ 6:59 PM ET
The perception that someone just did “ok” when they score 17/18 goals vs having a “good” season scoring 24

That’s a pretty big % increase...
is it not?

You’re the one who says I’m wrong 98% of the time or whatever...
make the bet
Put your $$$ where your mouth is
(So to speak)


And it’s not just his speed issues
It’s adding ANOTHER slow player to a top9 that already includes ROR, Reinhart, Okposo & Pommer
Like i said though...
I’m cool with a 1 year deal, bc we could then trade him for a pick at the deadline

But i don’t think he’d even consider signing here
(Unless I’m wrong and no good teams make him any offers)

- jdfitz77


When a team signs vanek are they expecting 17-18 goals or 24.

I would think a smart GM would take an average of the 3 years? 19.66 goal average?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 22 @ 7:01 PM ET
When a team signs vanek are they expecting 17-18 goals or 24.

I would think a smart GM would take an average of the 3 years? 19.66 goal average?

- Boss34


Ok...
so then wouldn’t a “smart GM” from a Cup contender offer him a contract?

And if so...
why would he then choose to come here?
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

May 22 @ 7:02 PM ET
When a team signs vanek are they expecting 17-18 goals or 24.

I would think a smart GM would take an average of the 3 years? 19.66 goal average?

- Boss34


It depends if the coach puts him on a line with Eichel or Larsson.
Our team has a history of expecting the same or more out of a player from another team playing with lesser talent.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 22 @ 7:02 PM ET
When a team signs vanek are they expecting 17-18 goals or 24.

I would think a smart GM would take an average of the 3 years? 19.66 goal average?

- Boss34

I have 0 interest in Vanek. We need speed
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 22 @ 7:03 PM ET
Zemgus Girgensons needs training blades.

He can’t handle the puck.

He has no ability to shoot.

His skill in the defensive end is diminished by a tendency to over-pursue.

He sucks at Latvian levels.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 22 @ 7:04 PM ET
I have 0 interest in Vanek. We need speed
- sbroads24


It’s weird when we agree
Hahaha
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 22 @ 7:07 PM ET
Zemgus Girgensons needs training blades.

He can’t handle the puck.

He has no ability to shoot.

His skill in the defensive end is diminished by a tendency to over-pursue.

He sucks at Latvian levels.

- Der Kaiser



"We had one legitimate trade offer"
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 22 @ 7:10 PM ET
"We had one legitimate trade offer"
- washedup20


I would rather have Mark Pysyk on this roster than Zemgus.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 22 @ 7:12 PM ET
I have 0 interest in Vanek. We need speed
- sbroads24



Take a break after a few days, eat even if your not hungry, you'll be able to out drink a mule but you'll feel like one for a month afterwards. Depending on where your bender is, I'd say it's not worth it.



But yes I preached this bullpoop a year ago, this roster is slow and filled with peasants.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 22 @ 7:14 PM ET
I would rather have Mark Pysyk on this roster than Zemgus.
- Der Kaiser



So would Vegas
kritter65
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2009

May 22 @ 7:20 PM ET
Rumor : Evander signed in San Jose ? 7 x 7
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

May 22 @ 7:24 PM ET
Rumor : Evander signed in San Jose ? 7 x 7
- kritter65


Yes please. The sharks should figure out a way to fit Tavares in and take Joe Thornton behind the tool shed.
kritter65
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2009

May 22 @ 7:32 PM ET


Irfaan Gaffar
@sportsnetirf
Hearing the Sharks and Evander Kane have agreed to a long-term contract extension. Numbers may be in the 7-years 7-million per range
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 22 @ 7:34 PM ET

@sportsnetirf
Hearing the Sharks and Evander Kane have agreed to a long-term contract extension. Numbers may be in the 7-years 7-million per range.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 22 @ 7:37 PM ET
1) Ryan O’Reilly will be 28 or 29 when we’re trying to fight for the playoffs his value is at the highest point you trade him and let’s not forget the game is going faster now he’s not gonna be able to keep up by then probably

2) I don’t trust a guy that all of a sudden starts playing half the season it just shows me he doesn’t have heart and he only cares about one thing “money” and the game is going at a faster rate and he’s not gonna be able to keep up to

3) Ristolainen Is very overrated on these boards I don’t think he’s a number one or franchise defenseman I’ve seen him get Beat on the easiest defensive plays


4) trading maybe two out of the three will help the depth of the organization for winger help and defensive help and Will get some young up and coming players that we can slot on the first or second line

- gerbe75pts


You mean like this?



Everyone does, dude.

I'm not saying he's Doughty, or even a number 1, but he's definitely a piece you build with.

Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 22 @ 7:37 PM ET
@sportsnetirf
Hearing the Sharks and Evander Kane have agreed to a long-term contract extension. Numbers may be in the 7-years 7-million per range.

- sbroads24


WTF are they on? I mean that's good for us, but holy hell that's a bad deal, and I like Kane.

Is that legit? What is that irf at the end of sportsnet?

Edit: Dude's name, never mind.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 22 @ 7:38 PM ET
Irfaan Gaffar
@sportsnetirf
Hearing the Sharks and Evander Kane have agreed to a long-term contract extension. Numbers may be in the 7-years 7-million per range

- kritter65

Sucks we have to wait a year for that 1st. Hopefully san Jose falls apart
Gordzilla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Chatham, ON
Joined: 01.06.2016

May 22 @ 7:38 PM ET
Now they get Tavares. Kane would look good on his wing . Unless Lou can beg him to stay with the Islanders.
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

May 22 @ 7:39 PM ET
@sportsnetirf
Hearing the Sharks and Evander Kane have agreed to a long-term contract extension. Numbers may be in the 7-years 7-million per range.

- sbroads24


If true that's crazy, never thought any gm would give him that kind of term, based on the game he plays, and any potential off ice stuff.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 22 @ 7:40 PM ET
WTF are they on? I mean that's good for us, but holy hell that's a bad deal, and I like Kane.

Is that legit? What is that irf at the end of sportsnet?

Edit: Dude's name, never mind.

- Wetbandit1



"The greatest asset in moving kane, is not giving into his contract demands"

-some maple syrup loving douchebag
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 22 @ 7:40 PM ET
Now they get Tavares. Kane would look good on his wing . Unless Lou can beg him to stay with the Islanders.
- Gordzilla

Why? We want san jose to be bad.
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