I highlighted part because that is exactly what I was thinking. Can you get a younger version of Stastny?? The problem with term and salary becomes significantly less if you can land a younger version of Statsny, if there is such a player as a younger version of Stastny.

OK, we have mentioned Barkov a few times, aside from him, is there a younger version of Stastny in the leaque, or who would that be??
- CharlieDog

yes, his name is Jack Roslovic

I like him, would like to sign him, but at what cost?? 32 yo, likely wants a long term deal, I am on the fence here. He is so smart though, great player but age and term scare me.

- CharlieDog

A few things on that:
1: You do not sit your #1 shutdown Dman in an elimination game. That is not the move of a desperate coach, that is the move of an unintelligent coach. Not only that, Enstrom is faster than Kulikov and Morrow, so that point it dead as well.
Another thing that’s been disproven in the years since is that Enstrom was a negative in the Anaheim series. They effectively made him a net 0, yes, but he was still our 3rd best guy. Only Byfuglien and Trouba were better, and there was a big drop off after Enstrom.

2: why would we ever be looking to trade Perreault? With that contract, you’ll have 30 teams calling you almost instantly. Same goes for Petan, why move him when the door is now open for him? Terrible.

3: Hutch earned another shot as a full time, NHL goalie by being the best goalie in the AHL after 3 years of being killed by the Jets defensive system.

*edit*
4: I forgot Myers. He absolutely needs to be moved. He’s about 2 years from a hard decline, his numbers haven’t been this good since his rookie year, and he’s actually managed to stay healthy for once. The only issue he’s fixed is durability, and that’s likely not going to continue. His defence is hilarious, his decision making skills are questionable, we have better options for all of his minutes, and his perceived value is both at an all time high around the league, AND higher than anything he actually brings to the Jets

A few things on that:
1: You do not sit your #1 shutdown Dman in an elimination game. That is not the move of a desperate coach, that is the move of an unintelligent coach. Not only that, Enstrom is faster than Kulikov and Morrow, so that point it dead as well.
Another thing that’s been disproven in the years since is that Enstrom was a negative in the Anaheim series. They effectively made him a net 0, yes, but he was still our 3rd best guy. Only Byfuglien and Trouba were better, and there was a big drop off after Enstrom.

2: why would we ever be looking to trade Perreault? With that contract, you’ll have 30 teams calling you almost instantly. Same goes for Petan, why move him when the door is now open for him? Terrible.

3: Hutch earned another shot as a full time, NHL goalie by being the best goalie in the AHL after 3 years of being killed by the Jets defensive system.
- Rexypoo

Hutch is a UFA!!! He won’t sign here!!! He wants out!! Accept that, he’s gone.

yes, his name is Jack Roslovic
- Ross77

Good point. He needs to play to gain the experience for sure. Would take a bit of time to gain the experience and knowledge but he has to start somewhere.

A few things on that:
1: You do not sit your #1 shutdown Dman in an elimination game. That is not the move of a desperate coach, that is the move of an unintelligent coach. Not only that, Enstrom is faster than Kulikov and Morrow, so that point it dead as well.
Another thing that’s been disproven in the years since is that Enstrom was a negative in the Anaheim series. They effectively made him a net 0, yes, but he was still our 3rd best guy. Only Byfuglien and Trouba were better, and there was a big drop off after Enstrom.

2: why would we ever be looking to trade Perreault? With that contract, you’ll have 30 teams calling you almost instantly. Same goes for Petan, why move him when the door is now open for him? Terrible.

3: Hutch earned another shot as a full time, NHL goalie by being the best goalie in the AHL after 3 years of being killed by the Jets defensive system.
- Rexypoo

Give up the Enstrom argument. Nobody agrees with you.
Perreault may have to be sacrificed for cap space, unfortunately.
Petan.....change of scenery needed.
Hutch - I believe he is marrying or has already married a Winnipeg gal. Maybe he sticks around ?

Ehlers is signed for 7 more years at $6/year.....
- liverpoolnhl

Thanks for correcting me. Contract is signed, the cap hit starts this fall.

Well, I’ve got a few points that need to be made here:
1: Trouba is here to stay. 8 years, 6 mil. Anyone suggesting he is expendable, or even that he should be moved, should sit down and think about the mistakes they’ve made to get to this point. Jesus.
2: Ehlers is here to stay. He’s still improving. Anyone suggesting that he is expendable, or even that he should be moved for cap reasons, or for pissing of Laine reasons, should sit down and think about the mistakes they’ve made to get to this point.
3: I think Maurice just dropped his stock with the Jets over the Enstrom situation. Pissing off your most loyal foot soldier by scratching him in what might be his last game for his only team in favour of two lesser players is a huge mistake. I don’t blame any of Copp, Chiarot, or Enstrom for being made about the scratching, but that’s a massive slap in the face for Toby. The guy did nothing but play excellent hockey and make sacrifices for this team, and Maurice gives him that send off. I expect Enstrom ends up in Toronto if he is leaving, as Babcock considers him elite, and Toby is apparently a fan of Dubas. I’m also curious to see what the players reactions might be.


With that out of the way, here’s my lineup next year:

Connor-Scheifele-Wheeler
They’re excellent. Expect a big step forward for Connor, and a small step back for Wheeler.

Laine-Little-Ehlers
Little is worrisome, so who knows what happens here. I just don’t want Roslovic having that responsibility quite yet.

Perreault-Roslovic-Petan
Awe yeah. They’ll kill some fools.

Copp-Lowry-Tanev
Elite shutdown line. Lowry is a Selke level center. Copp brings a mix of strong defence and shooting ability. I hate Tanev on this line, because he’s unbelievably good with these two. That’s a compliment. I think.

(Sign extra forward)

Morrissey-Trouba
They’re pure gold. Trouba is elite, and Morrissey might be there next year.

En...Kulikov-Byfuglien
Top 4 Kulikov terrifies me. Buff can carry anyone, though.

Niku-Poolman
Niku inhales Myers’ PP time, preferably with Trouba as the other point man. Poolman inhales PK time. Utility pairing.

Morrow as the extra. He can play with Buff, so he can stay.

Hellebuyck
Hutchinson
Yup, Hutchypoo earned this.

El Gonzo:
Enstrom (FA-TOR)
Matthias (FA-AHL)
Hendricks (RETIRES)
Dano (Trade-ARI, WSH, or CGY)
Chiarot (Trade-Anyone, who cares)
Mason (Trade-NYI, 50% retained)
Myers (Trade-Florida, Tallon+Tall=Borgstrom+1st for Myers)
Stastny (FA-St.Louis)
- Rexypoo

Not a bad assessment. I don't really disagree or dislike it anywhere. Not sure if Winnipeg is where Petan will make his mark but overall it looks good. And you may be right - I may be crazy.

*edit - make room for Myers in the lineup (Niku-Myers), and put Hutch in the same category as Petan.

A few things on that:
1: You do not sit your #1 shutdown Dman in an elimination game. That is not the move of a desperate coach, that is the move of an unintelligent coach. Not only that, Enstrom is faster than Kulikov and Morrow, so that point it dead as well.
Another thing that’s been disproven in the years since is that Enstrom was a negative in the Anaheim series. They effectively made him a net 0, yes, but he was still our 3rd best guy. Only Byfuglien and Trouba were better, and there was a big drop off after Enstrom.

2: why would we ever be looking to trade Perreault? With that contract, you’ll have 30 teams calling you almost instantly. Same goes for Petan, why move him when the door is now open for him? Terrible.

3: Hutch earned another shot as a full time, NHL goalie by being the best goalie in the AHL after 3 years of being killed by the Jets defensive system.
- Rexypoo

I disagree with you on Enstrom. Broken ribs, not playing well, why wouldn't a coach pull him? And the Anaheim thing, if you think WHL Kelly McCrimmon is selecting Enstrom to go up against LA, SJ, and Anaheim on a day in, day out basis, then you should go have a strong cup of coffee. Enstrom is faster than Kulikov? Anyways, its over now so hopefully Enstrom gets a deal in Toronto and opens up a spot here.

I am not looking to trade Perreault but he did nothing in the playoffs. If 30 teams are lining up, then maybe we should listen in order to free up cap for all these young players that will need to be traded because we don't have cap space for them.

Petan hasn;t cracked the lineup yet. Oilers like him, I am just suggesting there might be a deal for the kid there. I would like to see these guys play in the NHL. I am not sure he will get a chance to stick here on the big club so the reality might be he gets traded. He was on the SN trade bait list remember?

I will agree that Hutch was victimized to an extent by the Jets poor defensive system and put up great numbers in the A. He will get a deal somewhere but I think there is some bad blood there now with the Jets. But, the year the Jets made the playoffs, Hutch played well and tailed off. Pavelec played out of his mind the rest of the way and they made the playoffs. The next year, Hutch faltered and although the defense was suspect, he really struggled. He was great in the A, but I am not sure he is a solid NHL backup. Plus, Mason is going no where. No one wants him. Philly was happy to see him go. So, I am not sure there is a spot for Hutch. He was unhappy when he got waived last year so he has a chip on his shoulder right now. That never sits well with coaches, doesn't matter what league or sport, this crappy attitude doesn't work. His play at the NHL level this year was not spectacular. He is a great AHL goalie but somewhere in between AHL goalie and a NHL backup imop.

[quote=CharlieDog]There is no way I am trading Ehlers. Too much upside potential there and locked in for 6 years now.

Stastny, that is a hard decision. Very intelligent hockey player and mind but 32 years old and will most likely command big bucks. I would like to sign him but at what expense? These long term high value contracts for the 31, 32 yo player scare the crap out of me. Even Littles contract bothers me a bit, and then Wheeler is coming up. Tough decision, I am on the fence.
- Ross77[/quote

No one should “want” to trade ehlers! The thing is, trading one of our great LW might become reality down the road. What do we do if Vesalainen pans out? And looks to be the real deal? He to is left wing as is Kyle Connor? You can only have so many forwards making over 6 million. shiefele, Wheeler, Laine, ehlers, connor, Raslovic........ we cant pay them all north of 6. People bring up trading a LW cause it’s our strongest position.

Thanks Ross.

yes, his name is Jack Roslovic
- Ross77

Or his name is Mason Appleton ? .... do we get younger still ? ... that means more youth through another playoff run (?) ... the ELC sure helps with cap

That centre spot (between Laine and Ehlers) - that's a tricky one ... need speed and outstanding puck movement .... God help me but Zhamnov came to mind (you remember him - when he was on he was outstanding - - - when he wasn't on he was NOWHERE to be seen) .... so - who is a consistent Zhamnov ?

I wouldn't touch Connor-Scheifs-Wheels ... no way ... keeping Laine & Ehlers together seems to be smart as I believe they will only improve

Tavares will be $10M+ per ... Riley Nash ?

Here are my predictions for next season :

Enstrom, Chariot, Dano, Petan will be traded or dropped. None will be with the Jets next year. Hendricks gone as well because other teams may pay more to get him for his leadership.

Perreault may be traded to make room for Statsny although I find it hard to see where the Jets can afford to keep Statsny given budget considerations.

Niku & Poolman will make the roster

Copp OR Armia are on the fence because we will get a decent asset from the Perreault trade.

Tanev will be signed/extended. He was a big upside surprise this season.

Vesalainen has 30% chance of making the team. Only 30% because where do you put him and he may need to bulk up a bit more and get some AHL experience first.?

Trouba? Not worth $7 MM but replacements are hard to find for top four defensemen so he might just get signed and stay.

Two new assets will be gotten via free agency or trade. Both will be in the realm of the new quest for even more speed. Matt Calvert would be a good asset to acquire. Same with Riley Nash and David Perron. Pacioretty for Perreault ( plus maybe Chariot ) might make some sense for Montreal. That all being said it also makes sense for Chevy, due to possible budget constraints, to save some money and just wait to acquire the needed assets near the trade deadline as it’s a pretty reasonable assumption that the Jets will make the playoffs.


Next year’s roster ( lines may change):

Forwards

Connor – Sheif- Wheeler
Ehlers - Statsny - Laine
(New asset from Perreault trade) - Roslovic- Tanev
( New Asset ) -Little – Armia / Copp

Extras: Spacek / Appleton & Niku/Poolman

Defence

Morrissey – Buff
Poolman/Niku – Trouba
Kulikov – Myers


As for 2.0's comment on the previous thread about trading Ehlers. Yes, Ehlers did little to nothing in the playoffs and while young may be expendable. However, Chevy would be wise to not even dream of doing a trade like that until Laine is signed to a long-term contract.
- jetsnation

I agree with you on much of these predictions. It is a shame that Chevy signed Little to an extension so early in the season. The guy is a turnover machine. I think Raslovic is a better Centre, and we all saw how much the Jets improved with Statsny. Little is about to enter the highest salary he as ever had and he really is our 4th C....

Enstrom is as good as gone, hopefully we can keep Trouba's extension closer to 6M. With Kulikov, Morrissey, Buff, Meyers, Chiarot all inked, it will be tough for both Niku and Poolman to crack the lineup. To free up spots who should be traded? Chiarot if anyone wants him, otherwise Kuli or Meyers would be trad-able assets.

Chevy, please do not extend Liane this summer. He is a terrible hockey player with an unreal shot. If someone is getting more than 8M, they better be useful in all situations of the game. He is not there and will likely play down his value this season.

I have always been a big fan of the Copp Lowry Tanev line, so if we can keep that tenacious group together for around 1.3M each, do it please. Armia would be a star if he could improve his skating, but he just hasn't, and I doubt he ever will so he may have to walk. Matthias/Hendricks/Hutchinson/Armia/Morrow all walking frees up alot of cap. Trade Mason perhaps. Honestly I am more concerned to see money spent keeping Connor, Morrissey, Helle, Wheeler, than i am Liane.

Not a bad assessment. I don't really disagree or dislike it anywhere. Not sure if Winnipeg is where Petan will make his mark but overall it looks good. And you may be right - I may be crazy.

*edit - make room for Myers in the lineup (Niku-Myers), and put Hutch in the same category as Petan.
- 2.0

Myers is gone. Niku can’t carry him, and shouldn’t have to.

I disagree with you on Enstrom. Broken ribs, not playing well, why wouldn't a coach pull him? And the Anaheim thing, if you think WHL Kelly McCrimmon is selecting Enstrom to go up against LA, SJ, and Anaheim on a day in, day out basis, then you should go have a strong cup of coffee. Enstrom is faster than Kulikov? Anyways, its over now so hopefully Enstrom gets a deal in Toronto and opens up a spot here.

I am not looking to trade Perreault but he did nothing in the playoffs. If 30 teams are lining up, then maybe we should listen in order to free up cap for all these young players that will need to be traded because we don't have cap space for them.

Petan hasn;t cracked the lineup yet. Oilers like him, I am just suggesting there might be a deal for the kid there. I would like to see these guys play in the NHL. I am not sure he will get a chance to stick here on the big club so the reality might be he gets traded. He was on the SN trade bait list remember?

I will agree that Hutch was victimized to an extent by the Jets poor defensive system and put up great numbers in the A. He will get a deal somewhere but I think there is some bad blood there now with the Jets. But, the year the Jets made the playoffs, Hutch played well and tailed off. Pavelec played out of his mind the rest of the way and they made the playoffs. The next year, Hutch faltered and although the defense was suspect, he really struggled. He was great in the A, but I am not sure he is a solid NHL backup. Plus, Mason is going no where. No one wants him. Philly was happy to see him go. So, I am not sure there is a spot for Hutch. He was unhappy when he got waived last year so he has a chip on his shoulder right now. That never sits well with coaches, doesn't matter what league or sport, this crappy attitude doesn't work. His play at the NHL level this year was not spectacular. He is a great AHL goalie but somewhere in between AHL goalie and a NHL backup imop.
- CharlieDog

While I don’t agree with your Enstrom take, and maintain that he was actually playing rather well (but below his usual level), I appreciate the way you’ve presented your points. You’ve made it clear that you want all these guys to succeed, but that you also want the team to win by any means necessary.

I agree with you on much of these predictions. It is a shame that Chevy signed Little to an extension so early in the season. The guy is a turnover machine. I think Raslovic is a better Centre, and we all saw how much the Jets improved with Statsny. Little is about to enter the highest salary he as ever had and he really is our 4th C....

Enstrom is as good as gone, hopefully we can keep Trouba's extension closer to 6M. With Kulikov, Morrissey, Buff, Meyers, Chiarot all inked, it will be tough for both Niku and Poolman to crack the lineup. To free up spots who should be traded? Chiarot if anyone wants him, otherwise Kuli or Meyers would be trad-able assets.

Chevy, please do not extend Liane this summer. He is a terrible hockey player with an unreal shot. If someone is getting more than 8M, they better be useful in all situations of the game. He is not there and will likely play down his value this season.

I have always been a big fan of the Copp Lowry Tanev line, so if we can keep that tenacious group together for around 1.3M each, do it please. Armia would be a star if he could improve his skating, but he just hasn't, and I doubt he ever will so he may have to walk. Matthias/Hendricks/Hutchinson/Armia/Morrow all walking frees up alot of cap. Trade Mason perhaps. Honestly I am more concerned to see money spent keeping Connor, Morrissey, Helle, Wheeler, than i am Liane.
- bikeguy99

I agree with a lot of your round up, and Rexy's as well BTW, but I am not going to debate your points. I just highlighted this paragraph as I thought it was a bit funny.

So, you are saying Laine is a bit "Happy Gilmorish"?? LOL I am laughing my @$$ off here!! I once floated the idea of trading Laine for the first overall pick (when his game was irritating me) and I thank the HB board regulars for not roasting me, LOL.

He has some work to do on a few areas no doubt. A gift from the Hockey Lottery Gods but needs to concentrate on working on his skating and conditioning like Scheifs off season work out dedication.

That's funny tho.

While I don’t agree with your Enstrom take, and maintain that he was actually playing rather well (but below his usual level), I appreciate the way you’ve presented your points. You’ve made it clear that you want all these guys to succeed, but that you also want the team to win by any means necessary.
- Rexypoo

Rexy, I agree he played reasonable well in the Nashville series but after that game 1 LV hit, he was not the same. I actually agree with a lot of your points btw.

It would be great if Laine spent the summer with Schiefele.

I wouldn't extend him until he shows some commitment to improving upon his weaknesses.

It would be great if Laine spent the summer with Schiefele.

I wouldn't extend him until he shows some commitment to improving upon his weaknesses.
- bennythehat

but he's got that shot and 40+ goals as teenager....

Rexy, I agree he played reasonable well in the Nashville series but after that game 1 LV hit, he was not the same. I actually agree with a lot of your points btw.
- CharlieDog

So, it’s 100% that hit that buggered his ribs, right?

So, it’s 100% that hit that buggered his ribs, right?
- Rexypoo

Its not confirmed that hit did it. I am only assuming that was that hit. I mean he was doubled over in agony after this hit so I am only assuming this was the hit that did it, or did something to re-aggravate an older injury?? Don't know for sure. I was shocked he was out playing in game 2.

Side note, no one mentioned Jets signed Berdin to an entry deal. This is good, I like this kid and he will push Comrie on the farm!! Hutch and Phillips are gone.
- Ross77

How is Phillips, our best goalie prospect gone? He just signed with the Jets last off season. He is a former runner up to the Mike Richter award. Once Comrie starts struggling, I can see him starting next year with the Moose. Berdin will take Phillips place in the ECHL. Also it would really help me to understand how you asses these goalie decisions. You seem to have this skewed view of Comrie a goalie with 4.00 GAA with a 880 save percentage in the NHL.

Myers is gone. Niku can’t carry him, and shouldn’t have to.
- Rexypoo

Myers stays and walks as a free agent next summer. It would be fool hardy to trade a defenseman that can make a difference during the season and playoffs. Essentially, Myers becomes our free agent rental at next years deadline which beats trading prospects and picks for.

I really liked him when he was paired with Byfuglien.

Jets should do the impossible this summer and sign my boy:

Jonathan Tavares

Chevy talks about how he will make the big move when the time is right and last time I checked my watch, the time is right now.

Jets should do the impossible this summer and sign my boy:

Jonathan Tavares

Chevy talks about how he will make the big move when the time is right and last time I checked my watch, the time is right now.
- TheUltimateJet

"impossible" is the right word in this case.

"impossible" is the right word in this case.
- bennythehat

Not really, especially if are able to rid yourself of Perreault and Little. Imagine Tavares feeding Ehlers and Laine pucks.

How is Phillips, our best goalie prospect gone? He just signed with the Jets last off season. He is a former runner up to the Mike Richter award. Once Comrie starts struggling, I can see him starting next year with the Moose. Berdin will take Phillips place in the ECHL. Also it would really help me to understand how you asses these goalie decisions. You seem to have this skewed view of Comrie a goalie with 4.00 GAA with a 880 save percentage in the NHL.
- TheUltimateJet

Phillips is 3-4 years older than Comrie so I’m giving Comrie the edge based on age but I have no clue if either will be a successful NHL goalie. I do like Berdin and am excited to see him here. Phillips is also older tha Helle. I just think his window is closing fast.