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2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

May 22 @ 7:02 PM ET
Trading Ehlers is the equivalent of the Oilers trading Hall and Eberle. Dumb move!
- TheUltimateJet


I'm not having this conversation because Ehlers has somehow disappointed us... it's because he is the most tradeable asset that we can part with that is due for a pay raise soon. We have lots of wingers with speed and can replace his goals. He has speed, charisma and a reputation around the league that will guarantee a good return and free up salary. Entertaining doesn't win games and I think Ehlers has proven he is entertaining and moving him opens up options.
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

May 22 @ 7:06 PM ET
I would be reluctant to sign Stastny and do not see the need to bring back Trouba, especially if he is looking for 6 million plus.

Stastny is an enigma, ask Colorado and St. Louis, he plays great for stretches and also disappears for them as well. He is 32 years old and is a declining asset. As far as Trouba is concerned. Vegas and the last two cup champs the Penguins have proven that you don't need big names or money on D to make the finals. You need steady D that plays a simple game.

So I what I am saying is that we trade Trouba, Little and Vesalainen to Florida for Barkov.

- TheUltimateJet


The biggest issue I have with trading for Barkov is that there is no way in hell Florida will trade Barkov away. He is as guaranteed to be a Panther next year as McDavid is to be an Oiler.
liverpoolnhl
Joined: 02.06.2018

May 22 @ 7:13 PM ET
I'm not having this conversation because Ehlers has somehow disappointed us... it's because he is the most tradeable asset that we can part with that is due for a pay raise soon. We have lots of wingers with speed and can replace his goals. He has speed, charisma and a reputation around the league that will guarantee a good return and free up salary. Entertaining doesn't win games and I think Ehlers has proven he is entertaining and moving him opens up options.
- 2.0


Ehlers is signed for 7 more years at $6/year.....
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

May 22 @ 7:15 PM ET
Well, I’ve got a few points that need to be made here:
1: Trouba is here to stay. 8 years, 6 mil. Anyone suggesting he is expendable, or even that he should be moved, should sit down and think about the mistakes they’ve made to get to this point. Jesus.
2: Ehlers is here to stay. He’s still improving. Anyone suggesting that he is expendable, or even that he should be moved for cap reasons, or for pissing of Laine reasons, should sit down and think about the mistakes they’ve made to get to this point.
3: I think Maurice just dropped his stock with the Jets over the Enstrom situation. Pissing off your most loyal foot soldier by scratching him in what might be his last game for his only team in favour of two lesser players is a huge mistake. I don’t blame any of Copp, Chiarot, or Enstrom for being made about the scratching, but that’s a massive slap in the face for Toby. The guy did nothing but play excellent hockey and make sacrifices for this team, and Maurice gives him that send off. I expect Enstrom ends up in Toronto if he is leaving, as Babcock considers him elite, and Toby is apparently a fan of Dubas. I’m also curious to see what the players reactions might be.


With that out of the way, here’s my lineup next year:

Connor-Scheifele-Wheeler
They’re excellent. Expect a big step forward for Connor, and a small step back for Wheeler.

Laine-Little-Ehlers
Little is worrisome, so who knows what happens here. I just don’t want Roslovic having that responsibility quite yet.

Perreault-Roslovic-Petan
Awe yeah. They’ll kill some fools.

Copp-Lowry-Tanev
Elite shutdown line. Lowry is a Selke level center. Copp brings a mix of strong defence and shooting ability. I hate Tanev on this line, because he’s unbelievably good with these two. That’s a compliment. I think.

(Sign extra forward)

Morrissey-Trouba
They’re pure gold. Trouba is elite, and Morrissey might be there next year.

En...Kulikov-Byfuglien
Top 4 Kulikov terrifies me. Buff can carry anyone, though.

Niku-Poolman
Niku inhales Myers’ PP time, preferably with Trouba as the other point man. Poolman inhales PK time. Utility pairing.

Morrow as the extra. He can play with Buff, so he can stay.

Hellebuyck
Hutchinson
Yup, Hutchypoo earned this.

El Gonzo:
Enstrom (FA-TOR)
Matthias (FA-AHL)
Hendricks (RETIRES)
Dano (Trade-ARI, WSH, or CGY)
Chiarot (Trade-Anyone, who cares)
Mason (Trade-NYI, 50% retained)
Myers (Trade-Florida, Tallon+Tall=Borgstrom+1st for Myers)
Stastny (FA-St.Louis)
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

May 22 @ 7:17 PM ET
I'm not having this conversation because Ehlers has somehow disappointed us... it's because he is the most tradeable asset that we can part with that is due for a pay raise soon. We have lots of wingers with speed and can replace his goals. He has speed, charisma and a reputation around the league that will guarantee a good return and free up salary. Entertaining doesn't win games and I think Ehlers has proven he is entertaining and moving him opens up options.
- 2.0


Not only is this stupid, it’s also dumb. Trading a long term, 30+ goal man with a dominant possession game and a soon to be below-market cap hit BEFORE HE’S EVEN IN HIS PRIME for no reason outside of “he’s too fun, get rid of him” is comically bad armchair GMing.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 22 @ 7:50 PM ET
Well, I’ve got a few points that need to be made here:
1: Trouba is here to stay. 8 years, 6 mil. Anyone suggesting he is expendable, or even that he should be moved, should sit down and think about the mistakes they’ve made to get to this point. Jesus.
2: Ehlers is here to stay. He’s still improving. Anyone suggesting that he is expendable, or even that he should be moved for cap reasons, or for pissing of Laine reasons, should sit down and think about the mistakes they’ve made to get to this point.
3: I think Maurice just dropped his stock with the Jets over the Enstrom situation. Pissing off your most loyal foot soldier by scratching him in what might be his last game for his only team in favour of two lesser players is a huge mistake. I don’t blame any of Copp, Chiarot, or Enstrom for being made about the scratching, but that’s a massive slap in the face for Toby. The guy did nothing but play excellent hockey and make sacrifices for this team, and Maurice gives him that send off. I expect Enstrom ends up in Toronto if he is leaving, as Babcock considers him elite, and Toby is apparently a fan of Dubas. I’m also curious to see what the players reactions might be.


With that out of the way, here’s my lineup next year:

Connor-Scheifele-Wheeler
They’re excellent. Expect a big step forward for Connor, and a small step back for Wheeler.

Laine-Little-Ehlers
Little is worrisome, so who knows what happens here. I just don’t want Roslovic having that responsibility quite yet.

Perreault-Roslovic-Petan
Awe yeah. They’ll kill some fools.

Copp-Lowry-Tanev
Elite shutdown line. Lowry is a Selke level center. Copp brings a mix of strong defence and shooting ability. I hate Tanev on this line, because he’s unbelievably good with these two. That’s a compliment. I think.

(Sign extra forward)

Morrissey-Trouba
They’re pure gold. Trouba is elite, and Morrissey might be there next year.

En...Kulikov-Byfuglien
Top 4 Kulikov terrifies me. Buff can carry anyone, though.

Niku-Poolman
Niku inhales Myers’ PP time, preferably with Trouba as the other point man. Poolman inhales PK time. Utility pairing.

Morrow as the extra. He can play with Buff, so he can stay.

Hellebuyck
Hutchinson
Yup, Hutchypoo earned this.

El Gonzo:
Enstrom (FA-TOR)
Matthias (FA-AHL)
Hendricks (RETIRES)
Dano (Trade-ARI, WSH, or CGY)
Chiarot (Trade-Anyone, who cares)
Mason (Trade-NYI, 50% retained)
Myers (Trade-Florida, Tallon+Tall=Borgstrom+1st for Myers)
Stastny (FA-St.Louis)

- Rexypoo


Rexy, you are high if you think Trouba is signing 8 years for only 6 million!!!! Ridiculously high!!

And everything you just said about Enstrom could’ve been said about Stuart, (to some extent, the sacrificing part, not so much the excellent play part) might want to think about that.

Maurice just coached a team to a record high points and conference finals. His stock has never in his career been higher right now. Benching an aging never healthy player playing poorly with a broken rib will not lower his stock.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

May 22 @ 7:57 PM ET
Rexy, you are high if you think Trouba is signing 8 years for only 6 million!!!! Ridiculously high!!

And everything you just said about Enstrom could’ve been said about Stuart, might want to think about that.

Maurice just coached a team to a record high points and conference finals. His stock has never in his career been higher right now. Benching an aging never healthy player playing poorly with a broken rib will not lower his stock.

- Ross77


Trouba doesn’t have the production to demand any more. He also had a slow start. Offer him the 8 years at 6 per, and he’ll still be out-salary...ing all of his peers. Same goes for Morrissey. We know he’s great, he knows it, but he doesn’t have the numbers. Take advantage of that. 8 years, 5 mil per.

The same can’t be said for Stuart, as Stuart didn’t spend his entire career with the team, and 9 of 11 years on the top pairing. Stuart was a regular scratch by the end, too.

I also understand if Maurice was concerned about the ribs, and I’m sure it’s a non issue in the regular season. But he hadn’t been playing poorly at all, and certainly better than Morrow, Kulikov, or Chiarot were/have. You just don’t do it in an elimination game.
The players remember that kind of stuff.

I’d love to hear your opinions on the actual lineup stuff, though.
Eman87654
Anaheim Ducks
Location: CA
Joined: 12.06.2015

May 22 @ 8:55 PM ET
Too bad for you guys. The jets took big steps this year. Sustainability might be a problem 2 or three years for now but it looks like you have a window. Just don't sign stastny. The true test of a playoff contender isn't getting talent but keeping it. Believe me a ducks fan. It only takes a few bad contracts to kick you off the mountain top and back with the rest of the plebs.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 22 @ 9:29 PM ET
Trouba doesn’t have the production to demand any more. He also had a slow start. Offer him the 8 years at 6 per, and he’ll still be out-salary...ing all of his peers. Same goes for Morrissey. We know he’s great, he knows it, but he doesn’t have the numbers. Take advantage of that. 8 years, 5 mil per.

The same can’t be said for Stuart, as Stuart didn’t spend his entire career with the team, and 9 of 11 years on the top pairing. Stuart was a regular scratch by the end, too.

I also understand if Maurice was concerned about the ribs, and I’m sure it’s a non issue in the regular season. But he hadn’t been playing poorly at all, and certainly better than Morrow, Kulikov, or Chiarot were/have. You just don’t do it in an elimination game.
The players remember that kind of stuff.

I’d love to hear your opinions on the actual lineup stuff, though.

- Rexypoo


For the line up stuff, I don’t dislike anything you put but my thoughts are,

Roslovic has to start the year at Center, him and Connor have great chemistry as Roslovic is a passser and Connor is a shooter. Roslovic will make an excellent Center for Connor or Laine or both!

I’m not signing Stastny, too much money for a 32 year old and money needs to go elsewhere.

I’m still holding out hope for Petan but won’t cry if he’s traded, he won’t clear waivers next year if the jets do t see a fit.

I think I’d like to see something like.

Connor shief wheels
Perreault Roslovic Laine
Ehlers Lowry little
Copp Petan Tanev
Armia ( if not traded )
- I do think Appleton and Lemieux will get a great chance to make the team and will both see multiple games in nhl when injuries hit.
- Dano like Armia are both trade candidates.
-mathias and Hendricks gone

On D

Morrissey Trouba
Kulikov Buff
Poolman Myers
Chairot / morrow extras

I’m hoping we sign Trouba ( and like is wrote earlier I’m predicting it will only be a 4 year x 6.5 mil deal ) and trade Myers but can also see both being here to start the year. Depth at D can not be underestimated.

I can see morrow signing one year deal.

Chiarot, if he’s moved we will know there was more to that fight in practice than what was reported.

Niku will absolutely play for the Jets next year, he just may start on Moose

I do t think Kulikov or mason with their contracts will be traded.




Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 22 @ 9:32 PM ET
Side note, no one mentioned Jets signed Berdin to an entry deal. This is good, I like this kid and he will push Comrie on the farm!! Hutch and Phillips are gone.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 22 @ 9:38 PM ET
Roslovic and Connor on the same line is way too soft.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 22 @ 9:47 PM ET
Roslovic and Connor on the same line is way too soft.
- flyer_nutter

Roslovic handles himself very well in corners and crowds. I think they would be excellent together. Just give them a vet on the other side then.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

May 22 @ 10:21 PM ET
Why would someone with broken ribs be upset about being scratched ?
Must be more to the story than we are being told....
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

May 22 @ 11:31 PM ET
Roslovic and Connor on the same line is way too soft.
- flyer_nutter


Not a real problem. I’ve seen Connor give people a quick shot in the chops when they try to start some... stuff, and he’s never had a problem outskating or outsmarting anyone that’s tried to actually hit him. Roslovic isn’t a pushover either, and has all the same qualities.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

May 22 @ 11:32 PM ET
Why would someone with broken ribs be upset about being scratched ?
Must be more to the story than we are being told....

- bennythehat


That’s the weird thing. Everyone and their dog is saying broken ribs, but Maurice has denied it. That’s a considerably worse look for him, so I’m curious to see what’s what.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

May 23 @ 8:35 AM ET
That’s the weird thing. Everyone and their dog is saying broken ribs, but Maurice has denied it. That’s a considerably worse look for him, so I’m curious to see what’s what.
- Rexypoo


Media is not exactly clear on the extent of the injury, one source said serious rib injury, another said broken ribs (plural). Who knows but that hit in game 1 was thunderous and Enstrom looked hurt doubled over going to the bench. What surprised me the most was that he played game 2. It’s hard when a career is nearing the end but hard decisions need to be made and wise money spent, and there are guys ready to step in once they get a spot.

Great signing Berdin, bring him along in the A. He had a winning record in Sioux Falls with decent numbers, scored a goal as well. He is a character as well so I think that helps a goalie in developing. Also, Russian kid, long way from home, in South Dakota, this is a good base to build on. I have positive hopes for Berdin in the system.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

May 23 @ 8:41 AM ET
There is no way I am trading Ehlers. Too much upside potential there and locked in for 6 years now.

Stastny, that is a hard decision. Very intelligent hockey player and mind but 32 years old and will most likely command big bucks. I would like to sign him but at what expense? These long term high value contracts for the 31, 32 yo player scare the crap out of me. Even Littles contract bothers me a bit, and then Wheeler is coming up. Tough decision, I am on the fence.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

May 23 @ 9:59 AM ET
Well, I’ve got a few points that need to be made here:
1: Trouba is here to stay. 8 years, 6 mil. Anyone suggesting he is expendable, or even that he should be moved, should sit down and think about the mistakes they’ve made to get to this point. Jesus. Sure, if he will sign on the dotted line.
2: Ehlers is here to stay. He’s still improving. Anyone suggesting that he is expendable, or even that he should be moved for cap reasons, or for pissing of Laine reasons, should sit down and think about the mistakes they’ve made to get to this point. Agree. I am not trading him, no way. Too fast and too much excitement there. Yes, tough playoff season, only 7 assists in 15 games, .466 pts/game. Will only get better, not even near peak yet. Need someone to play with him and lead foot Laine might not be the best linemate to play with.
3: I think Maurice just dropped his stock with the Jets over the Enstrom situation. Pissing off your most loyal foot soldier by scratching him in what might be his last game for his only team in favour of two lesser players is a huge mistake. I don’t blame any of Copp, Chiarot, or Enstrom for being made about the scratching, but that’s a massive slap in the face for Toby. The guy did nothing but play excellent hockey and make sacrifices for this team, and Maurice gives him that send off. I expect Enstrom ends up in Toronto if he is leaving, as Babcock considers him elite, and Toby is apparently a fan of Dubas. I’m also curious to see what the players reactions might be. This is where I think you are crazy. Enstrom is respected in the media and with teammates and mgmt. but come on, he is about to be 34, 5 9 and injury prone now. If Babcock gives him a deal, good for Toby but a coach needs to try and shake things up in desperate times. Especially if the guy is battling a rib injury. And the Vegas sacrifice, give me a break. McCrimmon did a lot of scouting in Wpg and there is no way they ever envisioned Enstrom as a LVK. Its like McCrimmon seeing Enstrom, there is a small player, gets manhandled in the Ducks series 4 years ago, injury prone, small, gets outmuscled and McCrimmon is going to select Enstrom?? There's my answer to compete with LA, SJ and Anaheim?? Don't think so. If LV is competing with the Ducks, LA, SJ heavy teams, Enstrom is the exact opposite in the Dman that they would need for that division. They selected a particular team of speed and Enstrom is not anywhere near the mold of any of their players. I think Maurice loses respect in playing him in the first place. Worst case of money management since Pavelec and now Mason.


With that out of the way, here’s my lineup next year:

Connor-Scheifele-Wheeler
They’re excellent. Expect a big step forward for Connor, and a small step back for Wheeler. OK, agree with Connor taking steps forward. Hopefully Wheeler doesn't regress.

Laine-Little-Ehlers
Little is worrisome, so who knows what happens here. I just don’t want Roslovic having that responsibility quite yet. Little contract worries me, but defensively responsible, hope to bounce back. Roslovic needs to play every game. He is smart and will adjust but needs to play. Period.

Perreault-Roslovic-Petan
Awe yeah. They’ll kill some fools. Perreault, Mr. Fix it. If they can trade him, should look at it. I like him but didn't do much in the playoffs. Petan, Oilers like him, maybe Edmonton bound?

Copp-Lowry-Tanev
Elite shutdown line. Lowry is a Selke level center. Copp brings a mix of strong defence and shooting ability. I hate Tanev on this line, because he’s unbelievably good with these two. That’s a compliment. I think. A good shutdown line, no doubt.

(Sign extra forward)

Morrissey-Trouba
They’re pure gold. Trouba is elite, and Morrissey might be there next year. Agree. Morrisey is awesome, what a gem.

En...Kulikov-Byfuglien
Top 4 Kulikov terrifies me. Buff can carry anyone, though.

Niku-Poolman
Niku inhales Myers’ PP time, preferably with Trouba as the other point man. Poolman inhales PK time. Utility pairing. I hope these guys get a chance to play. If Poolman doesn't play next year as a regular, he should demand a trade or ask to be sent down. Its a waste of talent sitting in the PB. Morrow Poolman win a series and get sent to the PB. What a waste.

Morrow as the extra. He can play with Buff, so he can stay.

Hellebuyck Sign him
Hutchinson On the Moose or somewhere else.
Yup, Hutchypoo earned this. How? By playing with the Moose? He is a AHL goalie.

El Gonzo:
Enstrom (FA-TOR) Thank you for your serivce
Matthias (FA-AHL) Thank you for your serivce
Hendricks (RETIRES) Thank you for your serivce
Dano (Trade-ARI, WSH, or CGY) Thank you for your serivce
Chiarot (Trade-Anyone, who cares) We will see. 7th Dman?
Mason (Trade-NYI, 50% retained) Wishful thinking but I think we are stuck with him like Pavelec. OK for backup but he gets injured now walking across the street, putting in contact lenses, an errant pidgeon strike in downtown Wpg. Waste of money but we are stuck with him.
Myers (Trade-Florida, Tallon+Tall=Borgstrom+1st for Myers) I like Myers more now than ever. He addressed durability questions, played the entire season and missed 1 playoff game. Keep him or if he is traded, teams will be lining up to get him because he addressed the issues.
Stastny (FA-St.Louis)

- Rexypoo
I like him, would like to sign him, but at what cost?? 32 yo, likely wants a long term deal, I am on the fence here. He is so smart though, great player but age and term scare me.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 23 @ 10:03 AM ET
There is no way I am trading Ehlers. Too much upside potential there and locked in for 6 years now.

Stastny, that is a hard decision. Very intelligent hockey player and mind but 32 years old and will most likely command big bucks. I would like to sign him but at what expense? These long term high value contracts for the 31, 32 yo player scare the crap out of me. Even Littles contract bothers me a bit, and then Wheeler is coming up. Tough decision, I am on the fence.

- CharlieDog[/quote

No one should “want” to trade ehlers! The thing is, trading one of our great LW might become reality down the road. What do we do if Vesalainen pans out? And looks to be the real deal? He to is left wing as is Kyle Connor? You can only have so many forwards making over 6 million. shiefele, Wheeler, Laine, ehlers, connor, Raslovic........ we cant pay them all north of 6. People bring up trading a LW cause it’s our strongest position.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

May 23 @ 10:06 AM ET
For the line up stuff, I don’t dislike anything you put but my thoughts are,

Roslovic has to start the year at Center, him and Connor have great chemistry as Roslovic is a passser and Connor is a shooter. Roslovic will make an excellent Center for Connor or Laine or both!

I’m not signing Stastny, too much money for a 32 year old and money needs to go elsewhere.

I’m still holding out hope for Petan but won’t cry if he’s traded, he won’t clear waivers next year if the jets do t see a fit.

I think I’d like to see something like.

Connor shief wheels
Perreault Roslovic Laine
Ehlers Lowry little
Copp Petan Tanev
Armia ( if not traded )
- I do think Appleton and Lemieux will get a great chance to make the team and will both see multiple games in nhl when injuries hit.
- Dano like Armia are both trade candidates.
-mathias and Hendricks gone

On D

Morrissey Trouba
Kulikov Buff
Poolman Myers
Chairot / morrow extras

I’m hoping we sign Trouba ( and like is wrote earlier I’m predicting it will only be a 4 year x 6.5 mil deal ) and trade Myers but can also see both being here to start the year. Depth at D can not be underestimated.

I can see morrow signing one year deal.

Chiarot, if he’s moved we will know there was more to that fight in practice than what was reported.

Niku will absolutely play for the Jets next year, he just may start on Moose

I do t think Kulikov or mason with their contracts will be traded.

- Ross77


I like where your mind’s at. I have 2 problems with this:
1: There is no version of events where Myers isn’t moved before his value drops again.
2: I put Petan on that 3rd line with Ehlers and Little. Either as the C with Little on the right, or as the RW. Petan with Copp and Tanev suffocates any offence he might bring to the table, and the Copp-Lowry-Tanev line is too effective to split up.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 23 @ 10:10 AM ET
No one should want Mason traded!!! His contract for one more year will not be an issue at all next year!! Injuries happen all the time and I for one don’t have the confidence yet in Comrie or freshly signed Berdin to carry the load. Hutch is a UFA and anyone thinking he will stay here is nuts!!!! The only way that happens is if he doesn’t receive a single offer elsewhere and I don’t see that happening. We need some goalie depth next year. Also, mark my words Jets draft a goalie is rounds 3 or 4 this year.
CorydonKeith
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 01.22.2014

May 23 @ 10:11 AM ET
Ehlers won't be traded - c'mon ... yes, I was waiting for goal production in playoffs like everyone else ... the youngsters gained some valuable experience going 3 series

Jets will sign Troubs long term ... he's always been part of the plan and IMHO the stunt 2yrs ago was his agent - Overwhateverthef_ck

There's 25 contracts to address (UFA's and RFA's) from the roster and prospect list this summer ... me thinks we could see a much different looking line-up next year at least/especially amongst the bottom 6 forwards and quite possible the bottom D pairing

"When" Troubs signs - we will have a lot of cap tied up on RHD ... that makes Myers odd man out and Poolman the man in

Love the Barkov talk ... believe I started that one back in Dec or Jan ... we do need someone who can centre Laine & Ehlers better than Little and younger than Stastny

We're not getting Barkov and I put keeping Stastny at 30%

NET NET - with 25 FA's to address, cupboards more full than ever before, and a pretty damn successful playoff run - - - I think this is the summer that Chevy really makes some moves




CorydonKeith
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 01.22.2014

May 23 @ 10:16 AM ET
Oh - and Enstrom being scratched for game 5 - - - - so what ? ... life in the bigs ... he had his day and we could use him during the season next year (at a bargain, of course) - however - like Hendy, we can use them in the season but not so much during the playoffs
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

May 23 @ 10:29 AM ET
[quote=CharlieDog]There is no way I am trading Ehlers. Too much upside potential there and locked in for 6 years now.

Stastny, that is a hard decision. Very intelligent hockey player and mind but 32 years old and will most likely command big bucks. I would like to sign him but at what expense? These long term high value contracts for the 31, 32 yo player scare the crap out of me. Even Littles contract bothers me a bit, and then Wheeler is coming up. Tough decision, I am on the fence.

- Ross77[/quote

No one should “want” to trade ehlers! The thing is, trading one of our great LW might become reality down the road. What do we do if Vesalainen pans out? And looks to be the real deal? He to is left wing as is Kyle Connor? You can only have so many forwards making over 6 million. shiefele, Wheeler, Laine, ehlers, connor, Raslovic........ we cant pay them all north of 6. People bring up trading a LW cause it’s our strongest position.


Vesalainen is 19 on June 1. He played 49 games this year with 22 g and 21 A for 43 pts. 18 playoff games with 4 g and 4 a. You are correct that we can't pay all the players we like and one day down the road, players will have to get moved out. So, it is reality that good players will get shipped out one day for cap issues but I don't think it happens this year or next. I like Ehlers, I think he has potential for a lot more, I am not trading him in the near future.

Vesalainen needs some time in the A. It won't hurt his development to learn the NA game. We have three years on a ELC to see what he will become so hopefully that pushes back the timeline for shipping out other players such as Ehlers for example.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

May 23 @ 10:38 AM ET
Ehlers won't be traded - c'mon ... yes, I was waiting for goal production in playoffs like everyone else ... the youngsters gained some valuable experience going 3 series

Jets will sign Troubs long term ... he's always been part of the plan and IMHO the stunt 2yrs ago was his agent - Overwhateverthef_ck

There's 25 contracts to address (UFA's and RFA's) from the roster and prospect list this summer ... me thinks we could see a much different looking line-up next year at least/especially amongst the bottom 6 forwards and quite possible the bottom D pairing

"When" Troubs signs - we will have a lot of cap tied up on RHD ... that makes Myers odd man out and Poolman the man in

Love the Barkov talk ... believe I started that one back in Dec or Jan ... we do need someone who can centre Laine & Ehlers better than Little and younger than Stastny

We're not getting Barkov and I put keeping Stastny at 30%

NET NET - with 25 FA's to address, cupboards more full than ever before, and a pretty damn successful playoff run - - - I think this is the summer that Chevy really makes some moves

- CorydonKeith


I highlighted part because that is exactly what I was thinking. Can you get a younger version of Stastny?? The problem with term and salary becomes significantly less if you can land a younger version of Statsny, if there is such a player as a younger version of Stastny.

OK, we have mentioned Barkov a few times, aside from him, is there a younger version of Stastny in the leaque, or who would that be??
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