leafs should trade for grubauer's rights - a 2nd round pick and a decent roster player (leivo?).
then trade andersen and gardiner to nyi for leddy + 1st.
- MaximusAurelius

We're trading Ander5en already? He's an above average tender. Let's at least give him one more playoffs with an improved D in front of him.

Holtby has two more seasons at 6.1

They really need to Robidas Island Orpik
- AdamFrench

bowey and orprik to the leafs for a 4th.

or just martin straight up for orprik.

@ the Evander Kane contract
- BestRapperAlive

Agree - it's a putrid contract, maybe he was afraid that Blurrgevin was going to go $9 million for seven and convert him to play centre.

We're trading Ander5en already? He's an above average tender. Let's at least give him one more playoffs with an improved D in front of him.
- BestRapperAlive

I swear people have the most unrealistic expectations of goalies compared to any other position.

So many goals are on the team with it being a team game, not necessarily the tender. Of course there are exceptions, but I feel the blame for poop play that winds up with the puck in the back of the net falls more on the goalie than the team in front of them when it really was the team that gave up too good of a chance for the goalie to be expected to save.

Trade Orpik and keep Carlson, 4 dman play more than Orpik. They don't have to move Holtby to keep Carlson.
- Blazed

washington not starting with holtby against columbus was a pretty clear indication his time was coming to an end in washington.

after his playoff performance, maybe their gm thinks differently.

but they jerked around their starter and holtby may request a trade out of there.

washington not starting with holtby against columbus was a pretty clear indication his time was coming to an end in washington.

after his playoff performance, maybe their gm thinks differently.

but they jerked around their starter and holtby may request a trade out of there.
- Tumbleweed

Seems like the stars have aligned to at least make it a possibility.

I personally have only seen him play a handful of times, but I've heard him described as the best goalie outside of the NHL. How that chalks up to the ones in the NHL remains to be seen I guess

I swear people have the most unrealistic expectations of goalies compared to any other position.

So many goals are on the team with it being a team game, not necessarily the tender. Of course their are exceptions, but I feel the blame for poop play that winds up with the puck in the back of the net falls more on the goalie than the team in front of them when it really was the team that gave up too good of a chance for the goalie to be expected to save.
- RickJames77

it might come as a surprise to some of you, but Dubois doesn't like Andersen as his starting goalie.
Don't be too surprised if he trades Freddy to another team and tries and get a real top10 goaltender.

it might come as a surprise to some of you, but Dubois doesn't like Andersen as his starting goalie.
Don't be too surprised if he trades Freddy to another team and tries and get a real top10 goaltender.
- MaximusAurelius

Do you have any proof to back that up? I have not heard that.

I know, but sometimes you have to take a risk and if they don't win this year their window has gotta be closing pretty quickly.

I don't know that they make it this far again without Carlson. I'm also making an assumption they can't afford to bring him back so if I'm wrong on that do let me know.
- RickJames77

Carlson will stay with the caps, they will sign Grubauer to a Matt Murray type deal and ship Holtby the way Pens shipped Fleury.

it might come as a surprise to some of you, but Dubois doesn't like Andersen as his starting goalie.
Don't be too surprised if he trades Freddy to another team and tries and get a real top10 goaltender.
- MaximusAurelius

explain

Carlson will stay with the caps, they will sign Grubauer to a Matt Murray type deal and ship Holtby the way Pens shipped Fleury.
- winsix

That's sort of what I'm expecting, but with Samsonov...the kid is apparently the real deal goalchie

explain
- Tumbleweed

Well, stuff, tumbles. Stuff.

explain
- Tumbleweed

Pierre-Luc likes Bob better.

washington not starting with holtby against columbus was a pretty clear indication his time was coming to an end in washington.

after his playoff performance, maybe their gm thinks differently.

but they jerked around their starter and holtby may request a trade out of there.
- Tumbleweed

not starting a goalie because of slumping, doesn't mean that his intrinsic value is down and the organization is thinking of trading him.
maybe in 2 years if Samsonov has had 2 great years backing Holtby up, Washington might consider not resigning him - similar to TB with the Vasilevskiy and Bishop situation..
However, Holtby is way better than Bishop ever was.

If somehow Holtby is available this off-season, trading for him should be top priority for Leafs.

We're trading Ander5en already? He's an above average tender. Let's at least give him one more playoffs with an improved D in front of him.
- BestRapperAlive

These playoffs Holtby, Jones, Rask, Rinne, Hellebuyck, Vasilevskiy and Gibson have all been pulled. I think the Anderson hate is a little overblown.

washington not starting with holtby against columbus was a pretty clear indication his time was coming to an end in washington.

after his playoff performance, maybe their gm thinks differently.

but they jerked around their starter and holtby may request a trade out of there.
- Tumbleweed

Too bad the Seattle expansion draft doesn't come until 2020-21 - if they get these bums they will be (frank)ed for years! At least Rick James will be happy!

http://www.thehockeynews....-expansion-the-mock-draft

Do you have any proof to back that up? I have not heard that.
- RickJames77

not starting a goalie because of slumping, doesn't mean that his intrinsic value is down and the organization is thinking of trading him.
maybe in 2 years if Samsonov has had 2 great years backing Holtby up, Washington might consider not resigning him - similar to TB with the Vasilevskiy and Bishop situation..
However, Holtby is way better than Bishop ever was.

If somehow Holtby is available this off-season, trading for him should be top priority for Leafs.
- MaximusAurelius

They traded Bishop...

Do you have any proof to back that up? I have not heard that.
- RickJames77

Can't disclose that

Too bad the Seattle expansion draft doesn't come until 2020-21 - if they get these bums they will be (frank)ed for years! At least Rick James will be happy!

http://www.thehockeynews....-expansion-the-mock-draft
- winsix

Red Rover Red Rover Send Backes On Over!!!!

not starting a goalie because of slumping, doesn't mean that his intrinsic value is down and the organization is thinking of trading him.
maybe in 2 years if Samsonov has had 2 great years backing Holtby up, Washington might consider not resigning him - similar to TB with the Vasilevskiy and Bishop situation..
However, Holtby is way better than Bishop ever was.

If somehow Holtby is available this off-season, trading for him should be top priority for Leafs.
- MaximusAurelius

you don't (frank) around with your starter. you ride him out. an real easy way to run a goalie out of town.

it's basically the lu situation in vancouver, without the drama of nucks fans thinking that that lu was worth a 1st, gardiner and kadri.

They traded Bishop...
- RickJames77

that's what I"m saying - Tampa chose to keep Vasilevskiy over Bishop.
Bishop was traded to LA for the playoffs since Tampa was not going to offer him a new contract, and didn't want to let him go for nothing.

Can't disclose that
- MaximusAurelius

Oh ok. Please do when you're allowed...

you don't (frank) around with your starter. you ride him out. an real easy way to run a goalie out of town.

it's basically the lu situation in vancouver, without the drama of nucks fans thinking that that lu was worth a 1st, gardiner and kadri.
- Tumbleweed

Luongo was definitely worth that.
He was one of best goalies in NHL last 15 years.

Do you have any proof to back that up? I have not heard that.
- RickJames77