off the top of my head these players are injured for the Jays Diaz, Garcia, Stroman, Grichuk, Pearce, Tulo.

donaldson missed 20 games already.

ball players get injured...a lot
- senstroll

Tulo got injured running to first base. (Yeah, I know he stepped on the guy's foot and broke his ankle, but it's funnier when you only tell half the story)

Same guy that outscored Nylander 5v5


- Garnie

Hyman had 35 and Nylander had 45?

Not according to Pat.
- Iggysbff

Yeah, but mainly because I think Nylander is a first line winger;

Not according to Pat.
- Iggysbff

but their gm is kinda dumb

Yeah, but mainly because I think Nylander is a first line winger;
- PatC80

You still don't get a 24 year old #1 defenseman for a first line winger. At least you shouldn't.

Not unless you happen to have like 4-5 other top guys like Nashville had a few years back.

Calgary is not in the same situation at all.

Quickly. Hamilton is their anchor on D for many years to come. Gio is aging,
Hamonic and Brodie hasn’t fit together. They are not getting rid of the Ginger dman especially not for a second line winger.
- Iggysbff

top 65 in forwards for points only gets him 2nd line ranking?

You still don't get a 24 year old #1 defenseman for a first line winger. At least you shouldn't.

Not unless you happen to have like 4-5 other top guys like Nashville had a few years back.

Calgary is not in the same situation at all.
- Scabeh

So, at best we'd get a guy like Adam Larsson, for a top line winger?

You still don't get a 24 year old #1 defenseman for a first line winger. At least you shouldn't.

Not unless you happen to have like 4-5 other top guys like Nashville had a few years back.

Calgary is not in the same situation at all.
- Scabeh

How much pressure is on Calgary to make the playoffs or shake up the roster? Outside influences we don't know about also affect trades. maybe Hamilton banged Gio's wife.

How much pressure is on Calgary to make the playoffs or shake up the roster? Outside influences we don't know about also affect trades. maybe Hamilton banged Gio's wife.
- Aaron_85

Or worse, maybe Hamilton banged Gio... Not that there is anything wrong with that....

Yeah but Liljegrin, Nylander and next years first.
Too much.
- bobbyisno1

I said last year 1st, not next year

Knee land her and littlegren

Hyman had 35 and Nylander had 45?
- senstroll

SCORING...putting the biscuit in the basket, bulging the twine, lighting the lamp.

Or worse, maybe Hamilton banged Gio... Not that there is anything wrong with that....
- PatC80

Lots of variables. I think Nylander for Hamilton would be tough considering one is an RFA and the other is signed to arguably a team friendly deal for years.

SCORING...putting the biscuit in the basket, bulging the twine, lighting the lamp.
- Garnie

Hyman for Hamilton?

So, at best we'd get a guy like Adam Larsson, for a top line winger?
- PatC80

SAVAGE

Hyman for Hamilton?
- senstroll

Outscored him in the PO's too.

I am really interested to see how Dubas runs this draft as the man.
No hunter. Training wheels off

I said last year 1st, not next year

Knee land her and littlegren
- Symba007

You said add last years first to my proposal which was Nylander and next years first.

I am really interested to see how Dubas runs this draft as the man.
No hunter. Training wheels off
- senstroll

Most of the plan has to be together. I think he takes it easy. I doubt he makes any big moves.

So, at best we'd get a guy like Adam Larsson, for a top line winger?
- PatC80

Nylander is not even close to Hall.
And we all know that was a bad deal. But Hamilton is far far better than Larsson. So you are not even in the ballpark.

I am really interested to see how Dubas runs this draft as the man.
No hunter. Training wheels off
- senstroll

I'm more interested in how much and who gets signed for what and some trades...if we do any, also what he does with Keefe and his other guys he already works with.

Lots of variables. I think Nylander for Hamilton would be tough considering one is an RFA and the other is signed to arguably a team friendly deal for years.
- Aaron_85

This may sound crazy, but bear with me:

Bringing Hamilton to Toronto would be a mistake, because after every franking game (whether he plays well or poops the bed) the Kessel trade(s) would be brought up.

It wouldn't be fair to Hamilton, and it would ultimately become a negative.

I swear, I'm not kidding on this.

Nylander is not even close to Hall.
And we all know that was a bad deal. But Hamilton is far far better than Larsson. So you are not even in the ballpark.
- Iggysbff

I doubt they trade Hamilton anyways....

This may sound crazy, but bear with me:

Bringing Hamilton to Toronto would be a mistake, because after every franking game (whether he plays well or poops the bed) the Kessel trade(s) would be brought up.

It wouldn't be fair to Hamilton, and it would ultimately become a negative.

I swear, I'm not kidding on this.
- Atomic Wedgie

1st Gardiner like play and he'd be eaten alive.

Nylander is not even close to Hall.
And we all know that was a bad deal. But Hamilton is far far better than Larsson. So you are not even in the ballpark.
- Iggysbff

But he's better than a 30 year old Kessel that scored 92 points, so what the hell do you mean he's not better than Hall?

forgot I posted this in the other place...related to the Leafs crappy drafting (not so much). Leafs again fall in the warm middle.



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