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Nylander will NEVER get 92 points is how I thought it should read......anyways...just having fun...not making fun of your grammar.
- Garnie

See first post on last page....

Hockey will eventually follow baseball. Pay players for what they do now ..not as UFA past thier prime and what they did in the past.

the terms will get shorter, is there a good UFA signing recently thats been long term?
- senstroll

Baseballs different...those guys can play til there 65 yrs old...hockey someones getting injured every other shift...I doubt we start seeing shorter terms. JMO

See first post on last page....
- bobbyisno1

I seen it...but it wasn't the ?

Let's move on.

Pay I guess....I didn't make the comparison.
- Garnie

Not saying it was you...

To put it in perspective, Kessel's first contract after his ELC was a 5 yr deal for $27M.
If Nylander gets the same deal as that, we'd all call that a steal.

Not saying it was you...

To put it in perspective, Kessel's first contract after his ELC was a 5 yr deal for $27M.
If Nylander gets the same deal as that, we'd all call that a steal.
- PatC80

yep...$5m would be nice....that would be a bridge deal I think.

Not saying it was you...

To put it in perspective, Kessel's first contract after his ELC was a 5 yr deal for $27M.
If Nylander gets the same deal as that, we'd all call that a steal.
- PatC80

Nylander will get around what Pastrnak got imo.

Both are first line wingers on their team, both are young but Pastrnak has produced more than Nylander, even last year before he signed his contract.

It's the closest parrallel you can make.... add inflation to that.... you get close to 7M per year.

It's alot but I think it's fair.

Nylander will get around what Pastrnak got imo.
- Scabeh

Why, he's not as good.

Nylander will get around what Pastrnak got imo.
- Scabeh

minus the Dumbas factor who is a genius....so Nylander will get 5.8M/Yr long term and shut up about it

Not saying it was you...

To put it in perspective, Kessel's first contract after his ELC was a 5 yr deal for $27M.
If Nylander gets the same deal as that, we'd all call that a steal.
- PatC80

which was 8.8% of the cap on the 1st year of his deal.

would be about $7M on an $80M cap today.

Nylander will get around what Pastrnak got imo.
- Scabeh

I think he should as well.

Nylander's not gonna be like Phil Kessel, cause Kessel got 92 points once. I'm telling you, Leafs fans are just not allowed to have nice things.

Why, he's not as good.
- bobbyisno1

While I agree, he's one of the closest comparables in terms of age and production no?

I'm not counting this season for Pastrnak since he already had signed his contract before jumping to being a ppg player. He would have gotten even more today than a year ago.

Why, he's not as good.
- bobbyisno1

let's compare apples with apples. What were Pasta's stats before he signed his deal and what % of the cap did it represent?

What about Nylander stats?

he is a moron. not even in the ballpark on draisalt last year.

https://docs.google.com/s...yuN3lCOgfPjt6M/edit#gid=0
- Tumbleweed

Wasn’t in the ball park in Draisaitl, Kuznetsov, Parayko, Thornton, RyJo, Toffoli, Palat, Drouin and just about everyone else in the list...

Wasn’t in the ball park in Draisaitl, Kuznetsov, Parayko, Thornton, RyJo, Toffoli, Palat, Drouin and just about everyone else in the list...
- Iggysbff

It's a foolish list.

I guess it's just for fun though, which is fine.

let's compare apples with apples. What were Pasta's stats before he signed his deal and what % of the cap did it represent?

What about Nylander stats?
- Symba007

Pastrnak had 70 points last year.. I think he is the closest comparable.. In spite of what people are telling you, Nylander is actually a good player too.

let's compare apples with apples. What were Pasta's stats before he signed his deal and what % of the cap did it represent?

What about Nylander stats?
- Symba007

Well, we just watched them both in the playoffs and i'm sure one is better than the other.

I think he should as well.

Nylander's not gonna be like Phil Kessel, cause Kessel got 92 points once. I'm telling you, Leafs fans are just not allowed to have nice things.
- PatC80

It's ok to discuss...if we want nice things ( good d ) and we need to trade for it...we have to trade nice things....sure I'd like to keep Nylander and get a Doughty...but who's dreaming to think that will happen? ( plus it's just a discussion, I don't think Dubas will trade 34/16/29 )

Well, we just watched them both in the playoffs and i'm sure one is better than the other.
- bobbyisno1

Nylander's showing in the playoffs does hurt his value.

But if he's signing a long term contract, you buy up potential as well. Otherwise he's signing short term and if he performs well, he'll get even more.

Baseballs different...those guys can play til there 65 yrs old...hockey someones getting injured every other shift...I doubt we start seeing shorter terms. JMO
- Garnie

similar imo. the aging curve for ball players is not much different. there are always outliers but its a big risk signing player long past age 30.

same with injuries.

Baseballs different...those guys can play til there 65 yrs old...hockey someones getting injured every other shift...I doubt we start seeing shorter terms. JMO
- Garnie

I believe there was already discussion the owners would want 5 year contracts similar to the NBA. Mostly to protect themselves.

I'm all for this. More player movement.

Nylander will get around what Pastrnak got imo.

Both are first line wingers on their team, both are young but Pastrnak has produced more than Nylander, even last year before he signed his contract.

It's the closest parrallel you can make.... add inflation to that.... you get close to 7M per year.

It's alot but I think it's fair.
- Scabeh

Pastrnak also plays with 2 10 top players...like 2 players who are really (frank)ing good.
He has 2 Auston Mathews on his line

Nylander's showing in the playoffs does hurt his value.

But if he's signing a long term contract, you buy up potential as well. Otherwise he's signing short term and if he performs well, he'll get even more.
- Scabeh

Or, wait for this, we trade him for an even better defenseman.

Or, wait for this, we trade him for an even better defenseman.
- bobbyisno1

You're not getting Hamilton for Nylander alone bobby.

Wasn’t in the ball park in Draisaitl, Kuznetsov, Parayko, Thornton, RyJo, Toffoli, Palat, Drouin and just about everyone else in the list...
- Iggysbff

its a projection model nothing is 100% accurate...you can always tweak things.
2017 also doesnt look like it had terms factored in like 2018. the number will be different is someone signs 3, 5 or 7 years

You're not getting Hamilton for Nylander alone bobby.
- Scabeh

Please, I asked nicely..