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RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

May 22 @ 2:55 PM ET
lol
- senstroll

Hey if you’re a GM you gotta be prepared for anything even if there is only a very minuscule chance of it happening.

Again I’m not saying I’d expect that to happen in any way, but to say it categorically wouldn’t is just as foolish. There are plenty of examples of players with a great first year that then fell off a cliff.

Nylander had a respectable year so I’m not expecting that but if a downturn were to continue at least you have that option in your pocket.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 22 @ 2:56 PM ET
Hey if you’re a GM you gotta be prepared for anything even if there is only a very minuscule chance of it happening.

Again I’m not saying I’d expect that to happen in any way, but to say it categorically wouldn’t is just as foolish. There are plenty of examples of players with a great first year that then fell off a cliff.

Nylander had a respectable year so I’m not expecting that but if a downturn were to continue at least you have that option in your pocket.

- RickJames77



In Nylander's case though, he has had back to back 60+ point seasons to start his career.. I don't think he will be falling off any cliffs...
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 22 @ 2:58 PM ET
If he signs a long term deal for 7...you take it and Laugh
- senstroll

with Pastrnak at 6.6 I think.....you laugh at Dubas for overpaying.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 22 @ 2:59 PM ET
In Nylander's case though, he has had back to back 60+ point seasons to start his career.. I don't think he will be falling off any cliffs...
- PatC80

You think he gets back to back 60 points season without Mathews?
It's not like he's the one who drove the play.
You don't pay someone for riding somebodies coat tails.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

May 22 @ 3:02 PM ET
In Nylander's case though, he has had back to back 60+ point seasons to start his career.. I don't think he will be falling off any cliffs...
- PatC80

You know, I actually thought he was floating closer to the 50pts. Whoops

Point being, I for some reason thought there was a dip in production by some of the comments, but it seems like maybe a step forward wasn't taken which may have been the expectation. Is that more accurate?
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 22 @ 3:02 PM ET
You think he gets back to back 60 points season without Mathews?
It's not like he's the one who drove the play.
You don't pay someone for riding somebodies coat tails.

- bobbyisno1

I thought it was telling that Matthews threw a hissy fit because he wants to play with Marner.

Kinda implies he thinks Marner > Nylander, no?
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 22 @ 3:04 PM ET
Hey if you’re a GM you gotta be prepared for anything even if there is only a very minuscule chance of it happening.

Again I’m not saying I’d expect that to happen in any way, but to say it categorically wouldn’t is just as foolish. There are plenty of examples of players with a great first year that then fell off a cliff.

Nylander had a respectable year so I’m not expecting that but if a downturn were to continue at least you have that option in your pocket.

- RickJames77



lol
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 22 @ 3:05 PM ET
You think he gets back to back 60 points season without Mathews?
It's not like he's the one who drove the play.
You don't pay someone for riding somebodies coat tails.

- bobbyisno1


As it stands he would either play with Matthews or Kadri, he will score more than 61 points this year if healthy regardless. If he played with JT - he would rake.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 22 @ 3:05 PM ET
I thought it was telling that Matthews threw a hissy fit because he wants to play with Marner.

Kinda implies he thinks Marner > Nylander, no?

- Atomic Wedgie

I would pay Marner 7 mill long before I'd give that to Nylander.
Plus i'm trading Nylander for Hamilton.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 22 @ 3:05 PM ET
I thought it was telling that Matthews threw a hissy fit because he wants to play with Marner.

Kinda implies he thinks Marner > Nylander, no?

- Atomic Wedgie


Yeah but that's not really a knock on Nylander though.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 22 @ 3:06 PM ET
You know, I actually thought he was floating closer to the 50pts. Whoops

Point being, I for some reason thought there was a dip in production by some of the comments, but it seems like maybe a step forward wasn't taken which may have been the expectation. Is that more accurate?

- RickJames77


I guess it's more accurate; It's the reason, we as Leafs fans, can't have nice things.

At 22 years of age, back to back 60+points seasons and people think we should trade him.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 22 @ 3:06 PM ET
I thought it was telling that Matthews threw a hissy fit because he wants to play with Marner.

Kinda implies he thinks Marner > Nylander, no?

- Atomic Wedgie

is that why BobGarnie went to Arizona to deliver a lollipop to Matthews?
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

May 22 @ 3:07 PM ET
I see you’re less than pleased with my post

I’m just pointing that out because in my eyes he had a bit of a disappointing year and it seems like with some of these young kids they can have a great year and then drop off.

I don’t think this is the case with Him though. Just probably a sophomore slump and sometime without Auston Glassthews

- RickJames77


I like this one
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 22 @ 3:08 PM ET
is that why BobGarnie went to Arizona to deliver a lollipop to Matthews?
- Symba007



no, of course not.. Just happened to be in the area, the flight from Toronto to Denmark had a stop-over in Arizona.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

May 22 @ 3:08 PM ET
is that why BobGarnie went to Arizona to deliver a lollipop to Matthews?
- Symba007



wha??????

Rude.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 22 @ 3:09 PM ET
I guess it's more accurate; It's the reason, we as Leafs fans, can't have nice things.

At 22 years of age, back to back 60+points seasons and people think we should trade him.

- PatC80

If the Leafs had decent defense I wouldn't say trade him, but unfortunately the only way they upgrade is by trading Willie or Mitch and i'm not trading Mitch.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 22 @ 3:09 PM ET
wha??????

Rude.

- Garnie

it's better than Garnie Riot
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 22 @ 3:10 PM ET
with Pastrnak at 6.6 I think.....you laugh at Dubas for overpaying.
- Fakepartofme


Depends on the Term and how many UFA years you are buying.
Cap number matters. 7mil on an 80 mil cap it the same as Past. was when he signed.

if its 5 or 6, sure the number can come down a little
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

May 22 @ 3:10 PM ET
I guess it's more accurate; It's the reason, we as Leafs fans, can't have nice things.

At 22 years of age, back to back 60+points seasons and people think we should trade him.

- PatC80


People only think we should trade him because our D is a piece of poop, and you have to give value to get. You're not getting a different maker for Leivo and a 4th
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 22 @ 3:11 PM ET
People only think we should trade him because our D is a piece of poop, and you have to give value to get. You're not getting a different maker for Leivo and a 4th
- BestRapperAlive

Garnie can be a maker
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 22 @ 3:12 PM ET
I thought it was telling that Matthews threw a hissy fit because he wants to play with Marner.

Kinda implies he thinks Marner > Nylander, no?

- Atomic Wedgie


Description a bit over the top, but Marner is the better set-up guy. Seen perhaps a couple of dozen Matthews interviews, doesn't seem to get overly excited.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 22 @ 3:12 PM ET
I can be a maker
- Symba007

Nobody needs to see that.....
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 22 @ 3:13 PM ET
People only think we should trade him because our D is a piece of poop, and you have to give value to get. You're not getting a different maker for Leivo and a 4th
- BestRapperAlive


You wouldn't even get Josh Leivo if you traded Leivo and a 4th; that's not the point..

Leafs have other assets to trade if a trade is the route you take;

Nylander-Matthews-Marner-Rielly should be untouchables.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 22 @ 3:13 PM ET
If the Leafs had decent defense I wouldn't say trade him, but unfortunately the only way they upgrade is by trading Willie or Mitch and i'm not trading Mitch.
- bobbyisno1


only way
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 22 @ 3:13 PM ET
I guess it's more accurate; It's the reason, we as Leafs fans, can't have nice things.

At 22 years of age, back to back 60+points seasons and people think we should trade him.

- PatC80


Usually that discussion has involved

1) We sign Tavares ( )

2) We trade him for a young, 1st pairing Dman. and we would have to add, significantly
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