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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 22 @ 1:30 PM ET
Honestly they already have all the data and scouts ideas on who to take. Hunter is unhappy and doesn't want to be there anymore. Why keep someone around just to sit at a table for optics?! This is why the clause was put in he can't actually take a job till post draft so the Leafs scouting and plans are intact.

It is also pretty fair to Hunter too to allow him to start trying to find some place to land, especially since there are now no GM spots with Fenton signing with Minnesota already. IF Lou fires Snow, then Hunter would be free to interview and look at taking that job.

- Roadrunner75

Agree with everything above, except if Lou fires Snow, he will hire his son.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 22 @ 1:31 PM ET
??????????

Harry Stone on Night Court?

- Atomic Wedgie

John Astin as Buddy Ryan.

The schizo who alwasy said "but Im feeling much better now"
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 22 @ 1:31 PM ET
Its not really.
Its widely accepted that they did have bad drafting.
But they are feeling much better now

- Fakepartofme


sure by Leaf fans who only look at the Leafs. but not if you put any effort into comparing the drafting by all teams.

there is a post i saw on reddit from someone who compared all the teams. you can use different methods..but the Leafs genrally fall in the middle somewhere

https://tifubyjoiningredd...leafs-drafted-since-2000/

As a whole the Leafs drafting doesn’t stand out as one of the best in the league, however, they also haven’t drafted poorly in any round. They rank just above the league average in every area (except the third round) and as a result should finish above the middle of the pack but outside of the top 10 in my final rankings.


bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 22 @ 1:32 PM ET
exactly, this becomes a factor 3 years after they are drafted, so how could it be a factor in making the draft selection?
- BestRapperAlive

Drafted players only have entry level deals if they sign one, if they don't sign one they go back into the draft after 2 years.
Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

May 22 @ 1:34 PM ET
Agree with everything above, except if Lou fires Snow, he will hire his son.
- Atomic Wedgie


Yeah there is that. Though does Lou grab Hunter for what 3-5 years and put his son in as Asst. GM?

I think it is going to come back to haunt Hunter a bit here cause there really is no place to go for a GM spot so it literally is a lateral move for scouting?! Kinda crazy!
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 22 @ 1:35 PM ET
Nucks were bad a drafting and keeping picks

The most important takeaway is this: Between 2000 and 2012 Vancouver holds the record for both fewest draft picks and lowest success rate making them one of the worst drafting teams of the 21st century.


winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 22 @ 1:36 PM ET
Top 5 picks imo is hard to give a ton of credit for.
But of course thats a good pick

- senstroll


Have to disagree with this:
Depends on the draft: here are the top ten in 2014 (3 stinkers in top five)

1 Ekblad (D)
2 Sam Reinhart (C)
3 Leon Draisaitl (C)
4 Sam Bennett (C)
5 Michael Dal Colle (LW)
6 Jake Virtanen (RW)
7 Haydn Fleury (D)
8 William Nylander (C/RW)
9 Nikolaj Ehlers (LW)
10 Nick Ritchie (LW)
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 22 @ 1:37 PM ET
Yeah there is that. Though does Lou grab Hunter for what 3-5 years and put his son in as Asst. GM?

I think it is going to come back to haunt Hunter a bit here cause there really is no place to go for a GM spot so it literally is a lateral move for scouting?! Kinda crazy!

- Roadrunner75



I think he goes back to the Knights; Why wouldn't he stay on until after the draft; This whole effective immediate thing has to be of his own creation. the guy was angry he didn't get picked.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 22 @ 1:38 PM ET
Have to disagree with this:
Depends on the draft: here are the top ten in 2014 (3 stinkers in top five)

1 Ekblad (D)
2 Sam Reinhart (C)
3 Leon Draisaitl (C)
4 Sam Bennett (C)
5 Michael Dal Colle (LW)
6 Jake Virtanen (RW)
7 Haydn Fleury (D)
8 William Nylander (C/RW)
9 Nikolaj Ehlers (LW)
10 Nick Ritchie (LW)

- winsix


Kinda a little early to call them stinkers; Reinhart had a decent season this year;
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

May 22 @ 1:41 PM ET
sure by Leaf fans who only look at the Leafs. but not if you put any effort into comparing the drafting by all teams.

there is a post i saw on reddit from someone who compared all the teams. you can use different methods..but the Leafs genrally fall in the middle somewhere

https://tifubyjoiningredd...leafs-drafted-since-2000/

- senstroll

no by most in the hockey world including media.

But it doesnt matter, they were bad...they've gotten better....that's all that counts.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

May 22 @ 1:43 PM ET
Kinda a little early to call them stinkers; Reinhart had a decent season this year;
- PatC80


He had a good second half and that's it really.

And that was garbage time for the Sabres, seeing as how they were eliminated from playoff contention in November.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 22 @ 1:48 PM ET
Kinda a little early to call them stinkers; Reinhart had a decent season this year;
- PatC80


Will he ever be as good as Pastrnak or Nylander (same draft)?
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

May 22 @ 1:50 PM ET
My favourite is 1996:

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00008490.html

- Atomic Wedgie

And holy faq, the Leafs drafted Nedved....
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 22 @ 1:54 PM ET
Will he ever be as good as Pastrnak or Nylander (same draft)?
- winsix



doesn't have to be; he's improved in each of the last 3 seasons. (42 points, 47 points, 50 points).. the Virtanen pick...
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 22 @ 1:56 PM ET
Do you think they ask each potential draftee if they're willing to take a discount relative to their peers? This is not making sense to me
- BestRapperAlive


"So.... how (frank)ing greedy are you?"
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 22 @ 1:58 PM ET
doesn't have to be; he's improved in each of the last 3 seasons. (42 points, 47 points, 50 points).. the Virtanen pick...
- PatC80


Yeah, Reinhart is turning out pretty decent.

These guys are still young, even Bennett could turn it around imo.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Corn Pop was a bad dude, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 22 @ 2:00 PM ET
Yeah, Reinhart is turning out pretty decent.

These guys are still young, even Bennett could turn it around imo.

- Scabeh

no
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 22 @ 2:01 PM ET
no
- drexel


Unlikely I know.

Maybe a fresh start somewhere else?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 22 @ 2:02 PM ET
Unlikely I know.

Maybe a fresh start somewhere else?

- Scabeh


bennett for m.domi
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

May 22 @ 2:03 PM ET
doesn't have to be; he's improved in each of the last 3 seasons. (42 points, 47 points, 50 points).. the Virtanen pick...
- PatC80

True about Reinhart, but at pick number 2 can't be considered a good pick - there were at 6 or 7 much better available at that point. Virtanen - looked ok this year, jury is out on him, not a good pick at #6
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 22 @ 2:03 PM ET
Unlikely I know.

Maybe a fresh start somewhere else?

- Scabeh


the Habs could use a center, Bennett is a center; Which highly-rated D prospect would you trade for him?
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

May 22 @ 2:05 PM ET
the Habs could use a center, Bennett is a center; Which highly-rated D prospect would you trade for him?
- PatC80


q.hughes?
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 22 @ 2:06 PM ET
Have to disagree with this:
Depends on the draft: here are the top ten in 2014 (3 stinkers in top five)

1 Ekblad (D)
2 Sam Reinhart (C)
3 Leon Draisaitl (C)
4 Sam Bennett (C)
5 Michael Dal Colle (LW)
6 Jake Virtanen (RW)
7 Haydn Fleury (D)
8 William Nylander (C/RW)
9 Nikolaj Ehlers (LW)
10 Nick Ritchie (LW)

- winsix


1 stinker for sure. Cant say yet for sure on the rest.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 22 @ 2:06 PM ET
the Habs could use a center, Bennett is a center; Which highly-rated D prospect would you trade for him?
- PatC80


Sorry, we like to keep those to trade for wingers that we will play at the centre position. Can't make that trade.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 22 @ 2:06 PM ET
q.hughes?
- Tumbleweed


I think Bouchard should go first on defenseman, except Dahlin of course.
But that's just me.
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