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Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

May 22 @ 1:53 PM ET
Reaves and Beagle
- Nucker101


Reaves will most likely stay in Vegas.
No thank you to Beagle
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 22 @ 1:55 PM ET
Reaves will most likely stay in Vegas.
No thank you to Beagle

- Streit2ThePoint


What don't you like about Beagle? Too old? Too expensive?
GudasNew
Florida Panthers
Location: DE
Joined: 03.03.2015

May 22 @ 2:13 PM ET
What don't you like about Beagle? Too old? Too expensive?
- Feanor


For me he just seems like a dime a dozen player to which the Flyers have plenty.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 22 @ 2:18 PM ET
What don't you like about Beagle? Too old? Too expensive?
- Feanor

I like Beagle, good size, great on faceoffs, very good penalty killer and he has a bit of skill. If they can sign him to a 2 year deal, Id be fine with it.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 22 @ 2:19 PM ET
What don't you like about Beagle? Too old? Too expensive?
- Feanor



I'd actually like Roussel. Can kill penalties and plays a hard game. Especially if they do make a move with Simmonds.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 22 @ 2:19 PM ET
David Quinn named new Rangers coach.


Hahaha now they have their own inept varsity.

YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 22 @ 2:23 PM ET
What don't you like about Beagle? Too old? Too expensive?
- Feanor

I hate the idea of Jay Beagle and what they plan on doing with him, but if they are determined to sign someone like that, I like him over most others.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 22 @ 2:24 PM ET
I like Beagle, good size, great on faceoffs, very good penalty killer and he has a bit of skill. If they can sign him to a 2 year deal, Id be fine with it.
- BiggE



I like Beagle too but for some reason i feel he is going to get a little overpaid next season for some reason.

If that happens I wouldn't be against a guy like Kyle Brodziak. He is a year older then beagle but a solid 4th line center who can kill penalties.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 22 @ 2:29 PM ET
Well, first off, if Lyon has a very good playoffs and a strong preseason, you might lose him on waivers. If Lyon doesn't outperform the veteran goalies in camp and passes through waivers, then yeah, I'm fine with him and Hart at LHV and Stolie in the ECHL.
- BiggE


Stolie, if re-signed to an NHL deal, can't be assigned to Reading next year. No longer an entry-level player, so he can't be assigned to the ECHL without his agreement. Different if he is on an AHL contract.



BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 22 @ 2:30 PM ET
Stolie, if re-signed to an NHL deal, can't be assigned to Reading next year. No longer an entry-level player, so he can't be assigned to the ECHL without his agreement. Different if he is on an AHL contract.
- bmeltzer

Thanks for the clarification. What do you think happens re the goaltending situation in 18-19?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 22 @ 2:31 PM ET
Stolie, if re-signed to an NHL deal, can't be assigned to Reading next year. No longer an entry-level player, so he can't be assigned to the ECHL without his agreement. Different if he is on an AHL contract.
- bmeltzer



Bill,

What are your feelings on the goalies next year? Have to think Lyon pushed past Stolarz now in the depth chart. Obviously Hart is going to play in AHL. And you have two goalies signed in the NHL. I know things kind of sort themselves out but would it be wise to try and get Stolarz on an AHL deal so he can play heavy minutes and kind of regain his form in Reading and then convert it to an NHL deal if something happens?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 22 @ 2:41 PM ET
Can’t the phantoms carry 3 goalies? Sign them all. Start off with 3 in LHV. When neuvirth gets hurt call one up. They are all under the basic understanding that the 2 vets goalies are gone next year. So the logjam is for one year.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 22 @ 2:47 PM ET
Neuvirth won't be bought out. If he can be traded, Flyers probably sign a different vet, either as a tandem guy with Elliott or a lesswr vet (ala Tokarski) for Phantoms to split time early on with Hart (making Lyon the backup/ 1B to Elliott ) and be available for Flyers callup if needed. If Neuvirth stays, it will be status quo.

BTW, I couldn't see Neuvirth going to the Phantoms with a good mindset if he were waived and sent down. Not that he is a bad guy at all but he knows the key to another NHL contract after current one ends next summer is to play in NHL next season. He isn't going through surgery and all-new training regimen in British Columbia this summer to go back to riding the buses in AHL again.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

May 22 @ 2:47 PM ET
Bill,

What are your feelings on the goalies next year? Have to think Lyon pushed past Stolarz now in the depth chart. Obviously Hart is going to play in AHL. And you have two goalies signed in the NHL. I know things kind of sort themselves out but would it be wise to try and get Stolarz on an AHL deal so he can play heavy minutes and kind of regain his form in Reading and then convert it to an NHL deal if something happens?

- J35Bacher


pretty sure if a guy is on an AHL deal any other team can up and sign him to a NHL deal.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 22 @ 2:50 PM ET
pretty sure if a guy is on an AHL deal any other team can up and sign him to a NHL deal.
- nastyflyergirl


Yes. Ala Brian Boucher some years ago
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

May 22 @ 2:50 PM ET
Trocheck for Simmonds + 3rd
- Streit2ThePoint

pls
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 22 @ 2:54 PM ET
David Quinn named new Rangers coach.


Hahaha now they have their own inept varsity.


- MBFlyerfan



They were saying on NHL Network yesterday that all the new college coaches have Hextall and Hakstol's success to thank for them being hired.


Yes I just want to watch the world burn by posting this
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 22 @ 3:18 PM ET
They were saying on NHL Network yesterday that all the new college coaches have Hextall and Hakstol's success to thank for them being hired.


Yes I just want to watch the world burn by posting this

- dragonoffrost

YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 22 @ 3:18 PM ET
Neuvirth won't be bought out. If he can be traded, Flyers probably sign a different vet, either as a tandem guy with Elliott or a lesswr vet (ala Tokarski) for Phantoms to split time early on with Hart (making Lyon the backup/ 1B to Elliott ) and be available for Flyers callup if needed. If Neuvirth stays, it will be status quo.

BTW, I couldn't see Neuvirth going to the Phantoms with a good mindset if he were waived and sent down. Not that he is a bad guy at all but he knows the key to another NHL contract after current one ends next summer is to play in NHL next season. He isn't going through surgery and all-new training regimen in British Columbia this summer to go back to riding the buses in AHL again.

- bmeltzer

reading between the lines...do you think there is any chance they start the year with 3 goalies? Do you see them moving on from Stolarz?

Hart to the Royals!
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 22 @ 3:20 PM ET
Stolie, if re-signed to an NHL deal, can't be assigned to Reading next year. No longer an entry-level player, so he can't be assigned to the ECHL without his agreement. Different if he is on an AHL contract.
- bmeltzer

I missed this part the first time I read it
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 22 @ 3:21 PM ET
Can’t the phantoms carry 3 goalies? Sign them all. Start off with 3 in LHV. When neuvirth gets hurt call one up. They are all under the basic understanding that the 2 vets goalies are gone next year. So the logjam is for one year.
- Just5

unless Lyon looks good enough to get picked up on waivers. I think they can still get him through but he is definitely capable of playing an NHL backup role
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 22 @ 3:22 PM ET
You'd figure that after putting in the time with Lyon and I guess Stolarz to a lesser degree that the club would try to give them a bit of a longer look at the NHL level.

Dont really agree with just giving that chance to Hart.

Neuvirth and Elliot cock blocking the kids is kind of meh if it happens.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 22 @ 3:30 PM ET
reading between the lines...do you think there is any chance they start the year with 3 goalies? Do you see them moving on from Stolarz?

Hart to the Royals!

- YuenglingJagr


Just have someone lightly blow on Neuvirth, he'll spend the year on IR.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

May 22 @ 3:31 PM ET
Neuvirth would be foolish to pout if he does end up in the AHL. Halak, who had a better career record, ended up down there and played his way back to the NHL.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 22 @ 3:36 PM ET
Neuvirth would be foolish to pout if he does end up in the AHL. Halak, who had a better career record, ended up down there and played his way back to the NHL.
- Feanor


Everyone reacts differently. I could see him being pissed if he made every effort to fix his injury issues and then the team holds them against him by promoting Lyon and sending him down.
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