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Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

May 27 @ 4:58 PM ET
Where is all of that venom you were spitting the other day at this guy?
- Cptmjl

Somethings I agree with and some I think hes a troll. During the season at trade deadline some made sense and were logical. Now as of late a lot of it seemed like he was trying to piss all over isles fans looking for a move on snow which he was wrong about. Then it was snow will retain power lou is an advisor whereas most said he would have final say. Seemed like everytime we had a little bit of hope he would come in and be negative hence trolling. Now do I like the guy idk seems like a Richard sometimes so I guess we will see if hes a regular on here
Edit and just so I'm clear all three of you can suck my Richard
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

May 27 @ 5:12 PM ET

Somethings I agree with and some I think hes a troll. During the season at trade deadline some made sense and were logical. Now as of late a lot of it seemed like he was trying to piss all over isles fans looking for a move on snow which he was wrong about. Then it was snow will retain power lou is an advisor whereas most said he would have final say. Seemed like everytime we had a little bit of hope he would come in and be negative hence trolling. Now do I like the guy idk seems like a Richard sometimes so I guess we will see if hes a regular on here
Edit and just so I'm clear all three of you can suck my Richard

- Upstate_isles


He seems like a Richard most of the time. He also seems like a
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

May 27 @ 5:29 PM ET
He seems like a Richard most of the time. He also seems like a

- JimmyP

I agree winth that
BD Gallof
New York Islanders
Location: Suffolk County, LI, NY
Joined: 01.17.2006

May 27 @ 5:44 PM ET
The only difference is Lou will be making the decisions now. Garth will be getting him coffee.
- nyisles7



This truly is the biggest fan fantasy around. Many GMs work with team presidents. Add that Garth and Lou were friends before this.i understand the hope... but common sense and logic.. and Lou’s own words about evaluation and leaning on who is already there are big indicators of how they will go forward into the season.

Fans want a clean sweep. And unfortunately, for now, that doesn’t seem to be the case. Fans will have to weigh the reality of Lou add (which clearly makes fans happy) ... and equate it against their bigger desire to see Garth gone.
BD Gallof
New York Islanders
Location: Suffolk County, LI, NY
Joined: 01.17.2006

May 27 @ 5:56 PM ET
He seems like a Richard most of the time. He also seems like a

- JimmyP


For record: I really don’t care if he’s there or not.

I am of the thought that a stable org is better to retain JT and happen to think there are some elements that are working... like their elite offense and solid top 6. I am also of the belief their root issue last season was goaltending, which made all items look far worse. It was here even when they were winning. When a team doesn’t have good goaltending... which is key for a speedy offensively geared team and their new defensive system installed last summer with a rookie coaching and new staff... they are sunk. And it also curtails the offense bc they have no trust in who is in goal and affects style of play.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

May 27 @ 6:18 PM ET
For record: I really don’t care if he’s there or not.

I am of the thought that a stable org is better to retain JT and happen to think there are some elements that are working... like their elite offense and solid top 6. I am also of the belief their root issue last season was goaltending, which made all items look far worse. It was here even when they were winning. When a team doesn’t have good goaltending... which is key for a speedy offensively geared team and their new defensive system installed last summer with a rookie coaching and new staff... they are sunk. And it also curtails the offense bc they have no trust in who is in goal and affects style of play.

- B.D. Gallof

So who do you think lou/who ever are going to get in net?
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 27 @ 6:20 PM ET
This truly is the biggest fan fantasy around. Many GMs work with team presidents. Add that Garth and Lou were friends before this.i understand the hope... but common sense and logic.. and Lou’s own words about evaluation and leaning on who is already there are big indicators of how they will go forward into the season.

Fans want a clean sweep. And unfortunately, for now, that doesn’t seem to be the case. Fans will have to weigh the reality of Lou add (which clearly makes fans happy) ... and equate it against their bigger desire to see Garth gone.

- B.D. Gallof



If you think Lou L at 75, with his resume of winning came to the Islanders to change their direction and culture, without complete control of all hockey operations and deductions your a fool.
I don’t give

First you say Lou L isn’t coming. Now that he is here, Garth Snow is still the GM and Lou is going to be hampered by that. Lou Lamerillo doesn’t need Garth input in this years draft from anyone at the Islanders. When he was with the Leafs they were well aware of every prospect available in this years draft. With the scouting staff Toronto employs I can guarantee you there intel and information is much better than the Islanders scouting staff.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

May 27 @ 6:22 PM ET
If you think Lou L at 75, with his resume of winning came to the Islanders to change their direction and culture, without complete control of all hockey operations and deductions your a fool.
I don’t give

First you say Lou L isn’t coming. Now that he is here, Garth Snow is still the GM and Lou is going to be hampered by that. Lou Lamerillo doesn’t need Garth input in this years draft from anyone at the Islanders. When he was with the Leafs they were well aware of every prospect available in this years draft. With the scouting staff Toronto employs I can guarantee you there intel and information is much better than the Islanders scouting staff.

- nyisles7



So Cairns is not that good..???
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

May 27 @ 6:25 PM ET
If you think Lou L at 75, with his resume of winning came to the Islanders to change their direction and culture, without complete control of all hockey operations and deductions your a fool.
I don’t give

First you say Lou L isn’t coming. Now that he is here, Garth Snow is still the GM and Lou is going to be hampered by that. Lou Lamerillo doesn’t need Garth input in this years draft from anyone at the Islanders. When he was with the Leafs they were well aware of every prospect available in this years draft. With the scouting staff Toronto employs I can guarantee you there intel and information is much better than the Islanders scouting staff.

- nyisles7

Mark hunter is way better at evaluating talent than snow is and I agree no way a guy that's had control everywhere is gonna let snow make the final call and also the press conference had Lou making all decisions in sentence two
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

May 27 @ 6:26 PM ET
So Cairns is not that good..???
- Ur Not Me

Hahahah look hes the head of player development here its Shaun donovan in Ottawa so it's not always the best guys there. That said cairns could be easily upgraded
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 27 @ 6:27 PM ET
So Cairns is not that good..???
- Ur Not Me



I mean just to insinuate Lou L needs the Islanders staff to help him make his decisions in this up coming draft is just ridiculous.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 27 @ 6:29 PM ET
Hahahah look hes the head of player development here its Shaun donovan in Ottawa so it's not always the best guys there. That said cairns could be easily upgraded
- Upstate_isles


Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

May 27 @ 6:31 PM ET

- nyisles7

Lou is new to the isles and therefore knows nothing and he 100% needs cairns
BD Gallof
New York Islanders
Location: Suffolk County, LI, NY
Joined: 01.17.2006

May 27 @ 6:35 PM ET
So who do you think lou/who ever are going to get in net?
- Upstate_isles



Got me there. Really don’t know. All depends on who is willing to deal. Besides two 1sts, if isles can attract Ilya Kovalchuk .. something isles would have had NO shot with before Lou came onboard... it gives them ability to deal someone in their top 6 also.

Philipp Grubauer Could be available bc it sure looks like Holtby is their guy. Plus they have blue chip in system. That would give us another German.

Greiss was godawful this past season. Below any average ever. Per Elliotte Friedman... he is back to his original trainer this summer who has worked with a lot of goalies successfully.

Linus Soderstrom comes over, but I’d think he would need time to acclimate to North American game at Bridgeport.

Free agency really doesn’t have anyone special. Is Cam Ward worth a shot? Kari Lehtonen? Meh on the last one. Carter Hutton? That would be interesting. But nothing very guaranteed in an atmosphere of Lou, a Malkin vision, and a desire to be on a clear upward trajectory by the time Belmont is built.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 27 @ 6:39 PM ET
Lou is new to the isles and therefore knows nothing and he 100% needs cairns
- Upstate_isles



Oh that’s right for the last 3 years Lou’s been sucking farts out of movie theater seats in Toronto.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

May 27 @ 6:39 PM ET
For record: I really don’t care if he’s there or not.

I am of the thought that a stable org is better to retain JT and happen to think there are some elements that are working... like their elite offense and solid top 6. I am also of the belief their root issue last season was goaltending, which made all items look far worse. It was here even when they were winning. When a team doesn’t have good goaltending... which is key for a speedy offensively geared team and their new defensive system installed last summer with a rookie coaching and new staff... they are sunk. And it also curtails the offense bc they have no trust in who is in goal and affects style of play.

- B.D. Gallof


A winning org is the best way to retain JT. Snow hasn't been able to produce that and he never will. Keeping him for the sake of stability is asinine.

No goalie would be able to stand up to the barrage of shots the Isles gave up last season. Weight put in a flawed defensive system and wouldn't change it until it was too late. Goal tending was an issue, but you coach the team you have. Weight shouldn't be behind the bench in any capacity next season.

The Isles were 7th in GF/PG so I don't think the offense was curtailed.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

May 27 @ 6:42 PM ET
Mark hunter is way better at evaluating talent than snow is and I agree no way a guy that's had control everywhere is gonna let snow make the final call and also the press conference had Lou making all decisions in sentence two
- Upstate_isles


It's hard to believe that even if Snow remains GM he won't need Lou's approval on big decisions.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 27 @ 6:42 PM ET
A winning org is the best way to retain JT. Snow hasn't been able to produce that and he never will. Keeping him for the sake of stability is asinine.

No goalie would be able to stand up to the barrage of shots the Isles gave up last season. Weight put in a flawed defensive system and wouldn't change it until it was too late. Goal tending was an issue, but you coach the team you have. Weight shouldn't be behind the bench in any capacity next season.

The Isles were 7th in GF/PG so I don't think the offense was curtailed.

- JimmyP



100% Jimmy.

Let’s not forget the don’t block shots philosophy Doug dreamt up.
BD Gallof
New York Islanders
Location: Suffolk County, LI, NY
Joined: 01.17.2006

May 27 @ 6:44 PM ET
If you think Lou L at 75, with his resume of winning came to the Islanders to change their direction and culture, without complete control of all hockey operations and deductions your a fool.
I don’t give

First you say Lou L isn’t coming. Now that he is here, Garth Snow is still the GM and Lou is going to be hampered by that. Lou Lamerillo doesn’t need Garth input in this years draft from anyone at the Islanders. When he was with the Leafs they were well aware of every prospect available in this years draft. With the scouting staff Toronto employs I can guarantee you there intel and information is much better than the Islanders scouting staff.

- nyisles7



There seems to be this perception that Mark Hunter is God’s gift to drafting. Last few years... not so sure.

I’m not sure why you think Team Presidents make draft calls, run scouts and scouting staff. That is a GM role. There seems to be a fair level of denial coming for ride when Lou... who was a GM, sure..... (with very mixed results post-lockout btw)... is team president and GM/staff/scouts are to remain static.

Sure. Lou is onboard and has full control. Their current staff were shocked and broadsided by Malkin powermove of bringing him in. Z9ans I think ledecky was too, btw) But it is a role like a Brian Burke and Brendan Shanahan (who Lou just worked with) where there is delegation of items as well. It seems naive to think Lou will micromanage .... I know fans prefer it and hope he does.

Only one way to know. We will see. But Garth will run combine (not sure if Lou comes to talk to press, etc) and I think they will do draft as they were planning.

Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

May 27 @ 6:53 PM ET
Got me there. Really don’t know. All depends on who is willing to deal. Besides two 1sts, if isles can attract Ilya Kovalchuk .. something isles would have had NO shot with before Lou came onboard... it gives them ability to deal someone in their top 6 also.

Philipp Grubauer Could be available bc it sure looks like Holtby is their guy. Plus they have blue chip in system. That would give us another German.

Greiss was godawful this past season. Below any average ever. Per Elliotte Friedman... he is back to his original trainer this summer who has worked with a lot of goalies successfully.

Linus Soderstrom comes over, but I’d think he would need time to acclimate to North American game at Bridgeport.

Free agency really doesn’t have anyone special. Is Cam Ward worth a shot? Kari Lehtonen? Meh on the last one. Carter Hutton? That would be interesting. But nothing very guaranteed in an atmosphere of Lou, a Malkin vision, and a desire to be on a clear upward trajectory by the time Belmont is built.

- B.D. Gallof

Grubauer seems like the best bet as they just signed their young goalie so they have three. Would the caps deal within the division idk. Sorokin wanted to see better management too and lou is that
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 27 @ 6:55 PM ET
There seems to be this perception that Mark Hunter is God’s gift to drafting. Last few years... not so sure.

I’m not sure why you think Team Presidents make draft calls, run scouts and scouting staff. That is a GM role. There seems to be a fair level of denial coming for ride when Lou... who was a GM, sure..... (with very mixed results post-lockout btw)... is team president and GM/staff/scouts are to remain static.

Sure. Lou is onboard and has full control. Their current staff were shocked and broadsided by Malkin powermove of bringing him in. Z9ans I think ledecky was too, btw) But it is a role like a Brian Burke and Brendan Shanahan (who Lou just worked with) where there is delegation of items as well. It seems naive to think Lou will micromanage .... I know fans prefer it and hope he does.

Only one way to know. We will see. But Garth will run combine (not sure if Lou comes to talk to press, etc) and I think they will do draft as they were planning.

- B.D. Gallof


Who said Hunter? I said Toronto’s Whole staff.
Lou micro manages that’s what he does.
Lou doesn’t want a Burke or Shanahan role. When Shero took over in NJ Lou left asap. Same thing in Toronto. He was taken from the GM job and he left there as well.
He came he to run the organization from top to bottom and change the direction and culture of this team.
If you think he is going to sit on his throne and be a Figure Head you are very mistaken.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

May 27 @ 6:55 PM ET
There seems to be this perception that Mark Hunter is God’s gift to drafting. Last few years... not so sure.

I’m not sure why you think Team Presidents make draft calls, run scouts and scouting staff. That is a GM role. There seems to be a fair level of denial coming for ride when Lou... who was a GM, sure..... (with very mixed results post-lockout btw)... is team president and GM/staff/scouts are to remain static.

Sure. Lou is onboard and has full control. Their current staff were shocked and broadsided by Malkin powermove of bringing him in. Z9ans I think ledecky was too, btw) But it is a role like a Brian Burke and Brendan Shanahan (who Lou just worked with) where there is delegation of items as well. It seems naive to think Lou will micromanage .... I know fans prefer it and hope he does.

Only one way to know. We will see. But Garth will run combine (not sure if Lou comes to talk to press, etc) and I think they will do draft as they were planning.

- B.D. Gallof

Is it naive to think that Lou's history is that of a micro manager? When Lou was GM of the Devils, he thought nothing of firing his head coach and going behind the bench himself..........once with just a week to go before the end of the regular season.
BD Gallof
New York Islanders
Location: Suffolk County, LI, NY
Joined: 01.17.2006

May 27 @ 6:56 PM ET
Is it naive to think that Lou's history is that of a micro manager? When Lou was GM of the Devils, he thought nothing of firing his head coach and going behind the bench himself..........once with just a week to go before the end of the regular season.
- JohnScammo


Yes, this is true. However, I believe this won’t be case here at least until season is in full swing
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

May 27 @ 7:01 PM ET
Yes, this is true. However, I believe this won’t be case here at least until season is in full swing
- B.D. Gallof

Perhaps. The point is that Lou's nature (as 7 said) is that of a micro manager. So while it may take him a little while to get acclimated to the Isles' organization (and I use that term loosely ), I expect Lou to start acting like Lou sooner rather than later.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 27 @ 7:03 PM ET
Yes, this is true. However, I believe this won’t be case here at least until season is in full swing
- B.D. Gallof



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