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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 18 @ 3:13 PM ET
Another school shooting.

The world really sucks.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

May 18 @ 3:14 PM ET
Canes fans don't like Faulk and would love to trade him. Perspective.

He's a PP specialist and defensive sieve. I'd rather just have Gudas as the better ES player, let alone a top 20 pick and former 1st rounder. I don't get why we need to sell the farm for overrated d-men.

Unless we are trading for DougIE Hamilton or signing someone like de Haan, I'm just not that interested. We have good enough d-men. We have a coach who prefers to play the lesser d-men we have. That's the issue.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 18 @ 3:15 PM ET
Canes fans don't like Faulk and would love to trade him. Perspective.
- Mononoke


Doesn’t let the haters stop him from shooting the puck doe
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

May 18 @ 3:16 PM ET
Doesn’t let the haters stop him from shooting the puck doe
- Nucker101


Acknowledge my page 2 post and PM. Acknowledge them.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 18 @ 3:18 PM ET
Canes fans don't like Faulk and would love to trade him. Perspective.

He's a PP specialist and defensive sieve. I'd rather just have Gudas as the better ES player, let alone a top 20 pick and former 1st rounder.

- Mononoke


Just going to remind you and everyone else before this goes any further...

+/- is a team stat.
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

May 18 @ 3:20 PM ET
Bro...come on...Jimmy Eat World is still kickin and they are awesome
- YuenglingJagr


Bro -- Never said I didn't like that, but my wife loves them. Nothing better than listening to a 90'es cover band on a Saturday night.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 18 @ 3:20 PM ET
I'd agree with that description of Sandin. His hands are like a forward's for a d-man, he's a natural puck mover, real heady, creative, pretty stocky for a sub 6 foot kid. He's competitive and can handle himself in his own end too. Just his overall skating -- speed, burst, edge work -- is kind of flat and average. It needs to improve. I think he could be a really good 2nd pair/PP guy for some team in the back half of the 1st as well. I would prefer a forward with the way the draft is breaking, but he'd be one of my first d-man choices at 19. Do wonder if you could trade down for him though. I think a lot of the d-men in that range could be traded down for. Jonny Tychonick is another one who impressed me a ton at the u18s, who I'd group with Sandin.

I said it the other day, but as much as I think Hayton is a conscientious center who cares about his off puck play (although he's no Bergeron, like I've heard ridiculously said), I'm not particularly impressed by his play with the puck. He has slick hands and a good shot, but he doesn't play on the puck that much, and when he does, I think he plays slow and doesn't really think ahead with it or as a passer. I think the talk about his hockey IQ is a bit overblown. I would not be enthused if he was the pick at 14 tbh. A kid like Robert Thomas went at 20 last year with similar stats and a similar profile, and I think people want Hayton to be Thomas this year -- who clearly had a huge D+1 year. But I don't think he's anywhere near as good or has the upside Thomas did last year. I had Thomas just outside my top 10 for perspective and was a massive fan.

- Mononoke


Take me under your wing

(code)
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 18 @ 3:20 PM ET
Just going to remind you and everyone else before this goes any further...

+/- is a team stat.

- Just5

They’re all team stats
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 18 @ 3:20 PM ET
Another school shooting.

The world really sucks.

- jmatchett383


Why any moron needs to have access to something outside of a hunting rifle is beyond me.

Inbred goofs.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 18 @ 3:20 PM ET
Scoob, you're not crazy. You're just a little unwell. I know right now you can't tell.
- Mononoke


boooooo!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 18 @ 3:21 PM ET
Gudas for Shea Weber + 1st.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 18 @ 3:21 PM ET
Another school shooting.

The world really sucks.

- jmatchett383

Get rid of schools
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 18 @ 3:22 PM ET
Get rid of schools
- YuenglingJagr

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 18 @ 3:22 PM ET
Danila Zhuravlyov, Jan Jenik, Spencer Statsney are a few of my low-key, way above consensus favorites and are in my top 30 and 40 (Stastney) respectively. I think Stastney is a mid-rounder probably on draft day, but he's the most unheralded player on that USA team. Ridiculous skater, high IQ, calm puck mover, maybe sneaky offensive upside. I think he got buried behind worse d-men (team always looked better with him getting good minutes) and could emerge on Notre Dame. Also, I think Zhuravlyov and Jenik have really intriguing upside. I think they shouldn't go later than the 2nd.....but who knows? I think Zhuravlyov is as good as names being bandied about as 1st round d-men. If the Flyers draft 2 forwards at 14/19, I want him badly at 50. I really see something there. Jenik is the youngest player in the draft, and a very high IQ puck controlling center with a good below the dots game. I think he's got a good floor but also untapped potential.

Lundkvist, Nordgren, Ylonen, Wise, Foudy, O'Brien, Morozov, Regula, Steeves are some other low-key interesting names in the 2nd-3rd+ perhaps, besides the usuals.

- Mononoke


Agree on Stastney, whenever I saw them play I was wondering why he wasn’t more talked about. Looked like one of the better dmen on that team.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 18 @ 3:22 PM ET
Get rid of schools
- YuenglingJagr

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 18 @ 3:23 PM ET
Why any moron needs to have access to something outside of a hunting rifle is beyond me.

Inbred goofs.

- flyer_nutter


The knife and vehicle killers wonder the same thing.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 18 @ 3:25 PM ET
The knife and vehicle killers wonder the same thing.
- Scoob


Real gun control is a start to the problem. To do nothing is just asinine.

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 18 @ 3:25 PM ET
They’re all team stats
- YuenglingJagr


Son of a b
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

May 18 @ 3:29 PM ET
Agree on Stastney, whenever I saw them play I was wondering why he wasn’t more talked about. Looked like one of the better dmen on that team.
- Nucker101


I've seen that USA Dev Team team at least 15 times all season to the u18s. I have some strong reads. I think Wilde is a future bust in the making; his hype I flat out do not get. It frustrates me because he's incredibly gaffe prone and his hockey sense is a mess too, so it's not like he even fits the safe and reliable mold. I do like M. Samuelsson and K'Andre Miller. But after them -- Emberson is another low IQ kid and leached Stastney's minutes as a player with similar tools -- Stastney was the best d-man on the team, and yet was just a 3rd pair/PK guy all year -- right away I saw it, but his usage never changed all season, and I don't know what the coach saw. Until the u18s, when he was terrific and others were not, and he got more top 4 usage later on to help after a poor start.

I remember you liked David Farrance last year. Me not so much because I just thought he was a good skater but empty otherwise. Stastney is my Farrance. He really interests me as a 5'11 but stocky d-man with wheels. But he has a complete game too. I think some team will get a real good NHL potential d-man on the cheap.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 18 @ 3:31 PM ET
Real gun control is a start to the problem. To do nothing is just asinine.
- flyer_nutter


I don't disagree - but I also don't think it's the biggest piece of the problem
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 18 @ 3:33 PM ET
Real gun control is a start to the problem. To do nothing is just asinine.
- flyer_nutter


Because when OBAMA takes over the country, you need to be able to defend yourself...you know, with your AR15 against tanks, fighter jets, and nuclear arsenals.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 18 @ 3:33 PM ET
Its good value for sure and I wouldnt hesitate on a 2nd either but I want Hextall more focused on the quality of the NHL roster than mid round draft picks. The time has come. Its still important to draft well in those rounds but I want to see a shift in priorities going forward.
- Baxter27


Based on last season, Weal isn't contributing to that quality.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 18 @ 3:34 PM ET
I don't disagree - but I also don't think it's the biggest piece of the problem
- Scoob



I think the biggest problem is actually the acceptance of every day violence. Look at horror/torture movies and video games that have levels of violence that are just ridiculous. Music that is about nothing except thugs and gangs.

I am an Amish man at heart.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

May 18 @ 3:34 PM ET
The knife and vehicle killers wonder the same thing.
- Scoob



do we have a problem with innocent knives and vehicles being killed of which I was previously unaware?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 18 @ 3:34 PM ET
I don't disagree - but I also don't think it's the biggest piece of the problem
- Scoob


How the hell a parent doesn't realize that their kid is assembling a small arsenal is beyond my comprehension. I know you can't be on your kids 100% of the time, but I find it impossible to fathom that a parent would have no idea.
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