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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 20 @ 7:02 PM ET
It depends how aggressive they get. Like I said before , there is no excuse not to ask Edler at the end of the year to accept a trade. You can bring him back. He doesn't have to wear only one jersey in his career
- VANTEL



Where were you at the start of last season?
I was shot down that it was impossible.
Foresight was better than hindsight 😂😂
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 20 @ 7:02 PM ET
Bullpoop, you make hard decisions and ask players to move just like he did with Bieksa and Garrison.

The only ones untradeable were the twins.

- LeftCoaster



Agreed. I think Edler would've waived for a team like Detroit or the Rangers if pushed out.

Oh well.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 20 @ 7:04 PM ET
I don’t believe there’s a set time it should take, there’s so many variables for each team.

Plus there’s an element of luck in the draft, it’ll have when it happens, if ever.

- LeftCoaster


Simple math . The more chances you have with picks the quicker the talent arrives.

Hanging on to Edler at TDL is nuts. You can have him get a first round pick and re-sign him 4 months later. This loyalty to players that have not done anything exceptional is nuts.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 20 @ 7:05 PM ET
Simple math . The more chances you have with picks the quicker the talent arrives.

Hanging on to Edler at TDL is nuts. You can have him get a first round pick and re-sign him 4 months later. This loyalty to players that have not done anything exceptional is nuts.

- VANTEL


agreed

seems like most here agree that benning/brackett can draft pretty decently...if that's the case then we should be loading up on picks. play to your strengths.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 20 @ 7:05 PM ET
Agreed. I think Edler would've waived for a team like Detroit or the Rangers if pushed out.

Oh well.

- Nucker101

Oh well, at least Hextall has a bit of Belichick in him lol #Schennfor2firsts
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 20 @ 7:06 PM ET
Oh well, at least Hextall has a bit of Belichick in him lol #Schennfor2firsts
- LeftCoaster


he's lucky morgan frost had such a good year after the year schenn had


schenn's trade value is higher today than it was a year ago
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 20 @ 7:07 PM ET
Simple math . The more chances you have with picks the quicker the talent arrives.

Hanging on to Edler at TDL is nuts. You can have him get a first round pick and re-sign him 4 months later. This loyalty to players that have not done anything exceptional is nuts.

- VANTEL

Yes I subscribe to that theory, sadly Benning doesn’t. Fifth last with six picks going into the draft, so far 😡
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 20 @ 7:07 PM ET
Bullpoop, you make hard decisions and ask players to move just like he did with Bieksa, Burrows, Gansen and Garrison.

The only ones untradeable were the twins.

- LeftCoaster



Oh really & where were you when i said force Edler into waiving? No where of course. Show up like a broken record daily though. JB this JB that...
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 20 @ 7:08 PM ET
he's lucky morgan frost had such a good year after the year schenn had


schenn's trade value is higher today than it was a year ago

- Nucker101

I like that trade for Philly!! Asset management 👍🏻
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 20 @ 7:09 PM ET
agreed

seems like most here agree that benning/brackett can draft pretty decently...if that's the case then we should be loading up on picks. play to your strengths.

- Nucker101

I think the jury is still out on that.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 20 @ 7:10 PM ET
Oh really & where were you when i said force Edler into waiving? No where of course. Show up like a broken record daily though. JB this JB that...
- Nighthawk


you can't force him and threaten to waive him, the canucks would become a league-wide laughing stock amongst agents and players once word got out


but you can at least straight up tell Edler that he isn't in the long-term plans here and they would like to move him to get younger. Edler has gone on record saying that he'd be willing to move if he isn't wanted here. Or like Vantel said, just negotiate a contract under the table with Edler and his agent to re-sign him in the summer after a trade.

Blues did it with Keith Tkachuk, Leafs traded Winnik and Polak and signed them again.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 20 @ 7:11 PM ET
Oh really & where were you when i said force Edler into waiving? No where of course. Show up like a broken record daily though. JB this JB that...
- Nighthawk


You can't say to a player with two years left , accept a trade or be demoted. Especially when he is your best Dman
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 20 @ 7:11 PM ET
You can't say to a player with two years left , accept a trade or be demoted. Especially when he is your best Dman
- VANTEL

this
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 20 @ 7:11 PM ET
Oh really & where were you when i said force Edler into waiving? No where of course. Show up like a broken record daily though. JB this JB that...
- Nighthawk

Paying customers get to complain about the product as they see fit 😁
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 20 @ 7:12 PM ET
Dobson caught out of position
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 20 @ 7:12 PM ET
you can't force him and threaten to waive him, the canucks would become a league-wide laughing stock amongst agents and players once word got out


but you can at least straight up tell Edler that he isn't in the long-term plans here and they would like to move him to get younger. Edler has gone on record saying that he'd be willing to move if he isn't wanted here. Or like Vantel said, just negotiate a contract under the table with Edler and his agent to re-sign him in the summer after a trade.

Blues did it with Keith Tkachuk, Leafs traded Winnik and Polak and signed them again.

- Nucker101



I agree no need to tell me that. Maybe the naysayers will listen & chime in. I suggested the same. Cue Lefty & another reworded JB rant 😂😂
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 20 @ 7:13 PM ET
Dobson caught out of position
- VANTEL



Clearly he isn't Buff because he can't take 2 guys at once.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

May 20 @ 7:14 PM ET
Simple math . The more chances you have with picks the quicker the talent arrives.

Hanging on to Edler at TDL is nuts. You can have him get a first round pick and re-sign him 4 months later. This loyalty to players that have not done anything exceptional is nuts.

- VANTEL

that didnt seem to work for the islanders when mike millberry was holding his fire sales.
but of course, mike millberry was at the helm and it WAS the islanders....so....
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 20 @ 7:14 PM ET
Dobson caught out of position
- VANTEL

Damn that games is on now? It’s my birthday and people keep popping over, I wish they’d just just (frank)in leave me alone LOL !!!
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 20 @ 7:15 PM ET
You can't say to a player with two years left , accept a trade or be demoted. Especially when he is your best Dman
- VANTEL


Who said demoted? You not I.

Simple math . The more chances you have with picks the quicker the talent arrives.

Hanging on to Edler at TDL is nuts. You can have him get a first round pick and re-sign him 4 months later. This loyalty to players that have not done anything exceptional is nuts.

- VANTEL


You did say trade him without anything changed with 1+ years on his contract.

Go back & quote me on this demotion.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 20 @ 7:17 PM ET
Damn that games is on now? It’s my birthday and people keep popping over, I wish they’d just just (frank)in leave me alone LOL !!!
- LeftCoaster

Happy Birthday!

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 20 @ 7:18 PM ET
Who said demoted? You not I.



You did say trade him without anything changed with 1+ years on his contract.

Go back & quote me on this demotion.

- Nighthawk

we're gonna need manvanfan for this one
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 20 @ 7:18 PM ET
Happy Birthday!


- Nucker101

LOL 🤣
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 20 @ 7:19 PM ET
Damn that games is on now? It’s my birthday and people keep popping over, I wish they’d just just (frank)in leave me alone LOL !!!
- LeftCoaster

Happy Bday old timer
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 20 @ 7:19 PM ET
Happy Bday old timer
- VANTEL

Tks
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