But that favor was not that big. But they won with a second line and three third lines.
- RafiDRW

A "second line" in name only. That line won the goal share by a margin so great that it made up for any shortcomings that might (and did) occur beneath it. I don't have the exact numbers as Im on my phone, but it's somewhere in the mid-to-high 60s iirc. That Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak territory!

Defence by committee. Vegas has gone a long way to proving a stud D is not required to win.
- Wildschwein

But mobile puck moving D are

Not when you watch them play their system. All of their d pairs can break a cycle and make a clean exit from the zone. And when I say 6 bottom pair dmen I mean that's what they were when they were picked. A couple have proven they are more than bottom pair guys. But overall no big stars on D.
- Iggysbff

Miller, Theodore and Schmidt were buried on teams with depth on the blue line. They had the potential to be top four dmen.

Do you mean how they were perceived to start the year? In that case, most of them were but by results, Schmidt and Theodore were both correctly viewed as great 2nd pairing guys by those with sense. Miller and McNabb had a fantastic set of talents that just needed to be aimed in the right direction by a coach. Even Engelland dialed his game in. Sbisa and Merrill are still trash.
- MaximumBone

Yes. See my post above

Not when you watch them play their system. All of their d pairs can break a cycle and make a clean exit from the zone. And when I say 6 bottom pair dmen I mean that's what they were when they were picked. A couple have proven they are more than bottom pair guys. But overall no big stars on D.
- Iggysbff

And they're why I think our puck moving problem is largely systemic and a result of poor coaching. Prior to this year, Engelland and McNabb were noted as poor puck movers and were just good for breaking cycles and yet now they're executing quick and simple breakouts to a tee.

Systems matter FAR more than people have been willing to admit.

Yes. See my post above
- Iggysbff

Caught it after posting

But mobile puck moving D are
- Iggysbff

Theodore is a guy we should have targeted a long time ago. There are a few under the radar guys like that we could get for a small price but chia needs to be smart enough to find them.

And they're why I think our puck moving problem is largely systemic and a result of poor coaching. Prior to this year, Engelland and McNabb were noted as poor puck movers and were just good for breaking cycles and yet now they're executing quick and simple breakouts to a tee.

Systems matter FAR more than people have been willing to admit.
- MaximumBone

It's easier to do quick simple breakouts when your forwards are supporting and not prematurely fleeing the dzone...

But mobile puck moving D are
- Iggysbff

True.

It's easier to do quick simple breakouts when your forwards are supporting and not prematurely fleeing the dzone...
- Iggysbff

#FireTodd

It's easier to do quick simple breakouts when your forwards are supporting and not prematurely fleeing the dzone...
- Iggysbff

Glad to see we agree on this issue

Glad to see we agree on this issue
- MaximumBone

We agree on many things....we just have a different way of expressing it.

- 21peter

Too soon.

Defence by committee. Vegas has gone a long way to proving a stud D is not required to win.
- Wildschwein

Schmidt and Theodore are hell of consolation prizes.
They’re literally better than any dmen in the Wings organization.

Schmidt and Theodore are hell of consolation prizes.
They’re literally better than any dmen in the Wings organization.
- RafiDRW

That’s not exactly saying a hell of a lot though.

That’s not exactly saying a hell of a lot though.
- Wildschwein

Klefbom for Jensen.

Klefbom for Jensen.
- RafiDRW

You see, I’m not likely gonna wanna trade Klefbom for a player that I’m not even sure isn’t fictional.

You see, I’m not likely gonna wanna trade Klefbom for a player that I’m not even sure isn’t fictional.
- Wildschwein

He’s got a moustache.

He’s got a moustache.
- RafiDRW

Schwein does enjoy moustache rides...

Schwein does enjoy moustache rides...
- Iggysbff

Correction. I am an expert giver of said moustache rides, and I’m open for business 30 days a month.

Correction. I am an expert giver of said moustache rides, and I’m open for business 30 days a month.
- Wildschwein

Jero likes moustache rides

Jero likes moustache rides
- Reveen.

Unfortunately he wouldn’t be able to afford my services. Luckily for Jero, Laughs sister offers a similar product for much, much less.

Unfortunately he wouldn’t be able to afford my services. Luckily for Jero, Laughs sister offers a similar product for much, much less.
- Wildschwein

How dare you. Laughs sister is a beautiful soul who would never do such a thing.

How dare you. Laughs sister is a beautiful soul who would never do such a thing.
- leonkennedy

You really ought to meet her before you defend her.

Unfortunately he wouldn’t be able to afford my services. Luckily for Jero, Laughs sister offers a similar product for much, much less.
- Wildschwein

You mean free