rhn for brown
- Tumbleweed

I’ll cut you man don’t push me...

Gardiner, Kapanen, Sparks, #25 pick and rights to JvR for Faulk(quitter), Rask(quitter) and Skinner.
- PatC80

lol no

Why would we do Gardiner for Faulk?
- BINGO!

cause wadell is your gm?

I’ll cut you man don’t push me...
- Iggysbff

you know the terrible trade is coming.

i think you guys go full chiarelli on a trade for parayko

#10, drai and klefbolm

cause wadell is your gm?
- Tumbleweed

Voltron is our GM.

lol no
- BINGO!

The Big 3 are not in the discussion

I’ll cut you man don’t push me...
- Iggysbff

The Big 3 are not in the discussion
- PatC80

Then neither is Hanifin.

Then neither is Hanifin.
- BINGO!

1st + Liljegren and Carolina jumps on that.

Canes are not looking to trade Hanifin....Leafs would have to overpay
- Symba007

Not according to the owner.

Then neither is Hanifin.
- BINGO!

I'm not asking for Hanifin..

Rask, Skinner and Faulk

Not according to the owner.
- Aaron_85

There's a big difference between "Everyone is available for the right price" and "Fire sale"

1st + Liljegren and Carolina jumps on that.
- MaximusAurelius

Lol. No they don’t.

1st + Liljegren and Carolina jumps on that.
- MaximusAurelius

no

There's a big difference between "Everyone is available for the right price" and "Fire sale"
- BINGO!

From what I'm getting, a culture change is what's needed.

Get rid of 3 "problems" in one move;

Rask(you basically called him a quitter)
Faulk(you basically called him a quitter too)
Skinner (UFA soon, will price himself out of Carolina)

They can all be Maple Leafs

no
- winsix

you guys vastly underestimate Liljegren's ceiling.

Leafs won't even do Liljegren + 2nd for Hanifin - and they like Hanifin alot

There's a big difference between "Everyone is available for the right price" and "Fire sale"
- BINGO!

I don't think trading Nylander for Hanifin constitutes "fire sale price".

I did start with a fire sale offer hoping Waddell is dumb enough. I'd accept Nylander for Hanifin though. As I said earlier, the deal should hurt both parties just a bit.

you guys vastly underestimate Liljegren's ceiling.

Leafs won't even do Liljegren + 2nd for Hanifin - and they like Hanifin alot
- MaximusAurelius

There is absolutely no reason to move Liljegren at this point in time;

I don't think trading Nylander for Hanifin constitutes "fire sale price".

I did start with a fire sale offer hoping Waddell is dumb enough. I'd accept Nylander for Hanifin though. As I said earlier, the deal should hurt both parties just a bit.
- Aaron_85

Hyman - Matthews - Marner
Skinner - Kadri - Nylander
Marleau - Rask - Brown
Johnsson - Lindholm - (insert UFA signing here)

Rielly - Faulk
Dermott - Zaitsev
Borgman - Ozhiganov.

There is absolutely no reason to move Liljegren at this point in time;
- PatC80

I agree.
My point was in reference to 'if not one of the 'big three' then Hanifin won't be moved'

in my view, Liljegren in 1 year is more valuable to Leafs than Nylander.

1st + Liljegren and Carolina jumps on that.
- MaximusAurelius

What? Why?

Then neither is Hanifin.
- BINGO!

At the end of the day for the Canes values of players will be decided by Waddell and or the owner. Personally (IMO), Hanifin hasn't proved sh!t yet in the NHL, he had 32 points, played about 19 minutes a game and was -20 on a mediocre team that is offensively challenged. Hanifin could turn out to be exceptional, or he could be the next Ryan Murray or Jack Johnson. If the Leafs were to trade a proven high end right winger like Nylander, they would be better off to overpay for a proven d-man like Seth Jones, add in say Gardiner and a prospect and it might be interesting for another team that can't score. Besides being proven, Jones has a very good long term deal in place. Hanifin might cost too much and he's up for a contract - he might just be looking to get paid, before he's actually produced.

Hmmmmm mm. ..
26 yo dman 31 points in 76 gp with a -26....playing 22.16 min/night
Vs
27yo dman 52 points in 82 gp +9 playing 22.31 min/night....

Grass is always greener I guess

At the end of the day for the Canes values of players will be decided by Waddell and or the owner. Personally (IMO), Hanifin hasn't proved sh!t yet in the NHL, he had 32 points, played about 19 minutes a game and was -20 on a mediocre team that is offensively challenged. Hanifin could turn out to be exceptional, or he could be the next Ryan Murray or Jack Johnson. If the Leafs were to trade a proven high end right winger like Nylander, they would be better off to overpay for a proven d-man like Seth Jones, add in say Gardiner and a prospect and it might be interesting for another team that can't score. Besides being proven, Jones has a very good long term deal in place. Hanifin might cost too much and he's up for a contract - he might just be looking to get paid, before he's actually produced.
- winsix

All Personnel decisions are being made by committee, allegedly.

Dundon, Waddell, Dudley, Krepelka, Tulksy, Tatum, Olczyk and Brind'amour all get a say.

Brind'amour said if Dundon wants to do something that's stupid, it's up to them to tell him why it won't work.

Hyman - Matthews - Marner
Skinner - Kadri - Nylander
Marleau - Rask - Brown
Johnsson - Lindholm - (insert UFA signing here)

Rielly - Faulk
Dermott - Zaitsev
Borgman - Ozhiganov.
- PatC80

Simmonds - Matthews - Nylander
Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Marleau - Kadri - Brown
Johnsson - whoever - Kapanen

Rielly - Hainsey
Dermott - Zaitsev
Borgman - Wizard

Freddy R.
Grubauer


- Gardiner for Simmonds
- Sign Tavares as UFA
- Grubauer (RFA) for Carrick, Goat and Komarov