the coach


- Michael Pachla

Ahhh, leadership

I did not miss that. However, you're not getting 2 or 3 with ROR. It's just not happening.

I'll eat my shoe if it does.
- TheSabresTaco

Saved ..

Ok. A piece of it for sure.
But if ROR and Jack and Bogo all approached Risto and explained how his not paging the system in fact hurts the team and coerced him into playing it...
If Housley had a Risto ride the pine and play 3rd pairing to demonstrate you don’t play top minutes by not playing the system.
Then if that doesn’t work, then trade him.
Sets a pretty firm example for the next guy.
Ala fat-ass on the Bills
- IonSabres

This is leadership. Which is important.

Ok. A piece of it for sure.
But if ROR and Jack and Bogo all approached Risto and explained how his not paging the system in fact hurts the team and coerced him into playing it...
If Housley had a Risto ride the pine and play 3rd pairing to demonstrate you don’t play top minutes by not playing the system.
Then if that doesn’t work, then trade him.
Sets a pretty firm example for the next guy.
Ala fat-ass on the Bills
- IonSabres

You mean Marcel Dareus, whom after they traded he went on to a team and that teams run defense went from one of the worst to top 10. The team that almost made the superbowl but couldnt overcome their average QB play and ran into a team with terrible culture and still lost.

And then the Bills run defense fell apart.

Well they all have one unified vision during superbowl week, so that would technically be culture, no?
- ImThatGuy

Yes, EXACTLY!
You get it now, congrats.
Bad Culture.

One of the reasons Why the most talented team in football those years is 0-4 in championship games.

didnt connolly and roy get in a scuffle

maybe that made the culture bad and the bad culture took them down


- robz228

Staff infection, bad culture or good culture gone wrong?

You mean Marcel Dareus, whom after they traded he went on to a team and that teams run defense went from one of the worst to top 10. The team that almost made the superbowl but couldnt overcome their average QB play and ran into a team with terrible culture and still lost.

And then the Bills run defense fell apart.
- ImThatGuy

Guess he just didn't fit the type of person they want on the team. Sinners.

maybe the sabres need cinco de mayo day, it works for the woman on the geico commercial, she loves her work culture

Yes, EXACTLY!
You get it now, congrats.
Bad Culture.

One of the reasons Why the most talented team in football those years is 0-4 in championship games.
- IonSabres

Damn that bad culture for missing a FG.

Damn them for running into the Dallas Cowboys who were in fact a more talented team than buffalo.

Also

See: New England Patriots.

You mean Marcel Dareus, whom after they traded he went on to a team and that teams run defense went from one of the worst to top 10. The team that almost made the superbowl but couldnt overcome their average QB play and ran into a team with terrible culture and still lost.

And then the Bills run defense fell apart.
- ImThatGuy

No, dareus had zero personal accountability. He will never live up to his potential. Rex also had a loose leash with all these players, So when mcd camr in, dareus wouldn't get with the program.

So they became less talented when their injuries happend, or did they lose their vision?
- ImThatGuy

God you are dense.

God you are dense.
- IonSabres

they kept their culture and lost their talent and suddenly they werent as good anymore

almost like the culture doesnt mean poop

didnt connolly and roy get in a scuffle

maybe that made the culture bad and the bad culture took them down


- robz228

How’s that Venn Diagram assignment coming.

God you are dense.
- IonSabres

Because I don't understand how culture relates to winning, which no one has explained, nor can find an example of.

This is leadership. Which is important.
- sbroads24

No, no
Talent is all that is needed.
No system, no leadership...

maybe the sabres need cinco de mayo day, it works for the woman on the geico commercial, she loves her work culture
- robz228

Shes fugly they need some Olivia Holt or charlotte mcKinney

That will up the spirit

No, no
Talent is all that is needed.
No system, no leadership...
- IonSabres

Things needed to win:
1) Talent
2) Talent
3) Talent
4) Some leadership to say hey guys lets be the best we can be on and off the ice
5) Talent

You mean Marcel Dareus, whom after they traded he went on to a team and that teams run defense went from one of the worst to top 10. The team that almost made the superbowl but couldnt overcome their average QB play and ran into a team with terrible culture and still lost.

And then the Bills run defense fell apart.
- ImThatGuy

Yes, talent out, no talent infusion in.
The coach who understands culture had the leadership to dispose of the 3rd overall pick for a 5th rounder. Yup short term pain for long term gain.

No, dareus had zero personal accountability. He will never live up to his potential. Rex also had a loose leash with all these players, So when mcd camr in, dareus wouldn't get with the program.
- jcragcrumple

That sounds like a Dareus problem, not a culture problem.

And, if culture was real, wouldn't Dareus be a good fit, because the culture would make him buy in? What does culture itself do?

Can we just agree that it's just a term and not an actual thing in itself?

Edit- I know you mostly agree, so I'm not really asking you

so we have a few examples of great teams with godawful "culture" who still had great results

we have tons of examples of individuals who are "culture killers" who changed teams and were great and so was their team

anyone know any less talented culture heroes who went to a talented team with bad culture and made them good? scott wilson?

No, dareus had zero personal accountability. He will never live up to his potential. Rex also had a loose leash with all these players, So when mcd camr in, dareus wouldn't get with the program.
- jcragcrumple

Hmmm, that word again.

Ek sabres have BIG interest in Jack Johnson

be ok with a 2year 3m

That sounds like a Dareus problem, not a culture problem.

And, if culture was real, wouldn't Dareus be a good fit, because the culture would make him buy in? What does culture itself do?

Can we just agree that it's just a term and not an actual thing in itself?
- sbroads24

That's what I was trying to say.

And yeah, I agree with you on your last part.

(frank) dareus. Suspensions and injuries because he was out of shape and didn't care

so we have a few examples of great teams with godawful "culture" who still had great results

we have tons of examples of individuals who are "culture killers" who changed teams and were great and so was their team

anyone know any less talented culture heroes who went to a talented team with bad culture and made them good? scott wilson?
- robz228

Kassian

And, if culture was real, wouldn't Dareus be a good fit, because the culture would make him buy in? What does culture itself do?
- sbroads24

lmao, great point