Fine, lets do this.

How does one change culture?
- ImThatGuy

Ya know what, fine.

This question is so easy to answer. Look at what the Bills have done. Want me to dig in? And no, I'm not directly referring making the playoffs.

Culture, by my definition and how it relates to sports, is ultimate cohesion between the players, the coaches, the organization, and the goals that each entity is striving to achieve. "Culture" is when all of those entities are fully committed to their jobs, their teammates and the organization to 'buy in' 100% and do whatever is necessary to win, on and off the playing field.

All gears are working in the system.

When one of those gears turns in the opposite direction or stops working, you have a problem. The more of those malfunctioning gears show up, the more problems you have.

The Bills have eliminated many of those, and they took a team with average at best talent to the playoffs.

You consistently hear about the poor culture in the Sabres room, how not all players are buying into the system, how some couldn't care less, how some accept losing and just care about their pay check. How to you expect to win when a portion of your players do not have the same goals in mind? How some play for themselves, some ignore the system and some just flat out don't care? Or care enough?

That's culture. Everyone pulling in one direction the most honest and sincere way possible. The Bills have started this, and it shows. The Sabres have not, and it shows.

Huge if true.

Also....officially done with Albany Law today....


Of course that means bar prep starts next week
- feetontheair22

Congrats. And good luck!

I never said he didn't, I just find the culture thing very laughable.

Detroit after 20+ years of making the playoffs is talking about how to change the culture of their organization.

Why all the sudden do they have bad culture? Or is it because they just don't have good players anymore.
- ImThatGuy

Culture is not talent and talent is not culture. Comparing the two is asinine.

However, when talent leads to winning, it's easier to overcome a room that is not all pulling in the same direction. Like oiling a bad ball bearing. The problem's still there, you just can't hear it as much.

Ya know what, fine.

This question is so easy to answer. Look at what the Bills have done. Want me to dig in? And no, I'm not directly referring making the playoffs.

Culture, by my definition and how it relates to sports, is ultimate cohesion between the players, the coaches, the organization, and the goals that each entity is striving to achieve. "Culture" is when all of those entities are fully committed to their jobs, their teammates and the organization to 'buy in' 100% and do whatever is necessary to win, on and off the playing field.

All gears are working in the system.

When one of those gears turns in the opposite direction or stops working, you have a problem. The more of those malfunctioning gears show up, the more problems you have.

The Bills have eliminated many of those, and they took a team with average at best talent to the playoffs.

You consistently hear about the poor culture in the Sabres room, how not all players are buying into the system, how some couldn't care less, how some accept losing and just care about their pay check. How to you expect to win when a portion of your players do not have the same goals in mind? How some play for themselves, some ignore the system and some just flat out don't care? Or care enough?

That's culture. Everyone pulling in one direction the most honest and sincere way possible. The Bills have started this, and it shows. The Sabres have not, and it shows.
- TheSabresTaco

JT will not be going to the armpit of America....and this comes from someone from Detroit originally (now in Toronto).

Also, who wants to play somewhere where the young star thinks he’s a mega star and tries to run the team. He may become a real good player (already a good one) but man does he have a crappy attitude.

JT will stay on Long Island.
- Big23Questions

I had no idea Buffalo was a suburb of Detroit

Culture is not talent and talent is not culture. Comparing the two is asinine.

However, when talent leads to winning, it's easier to overcome a room that is not all pulling in the same direction. Like oiling a bad ball bearing. The problem's still there, you just can't hear it as much.
- TheSabresTaco

You made me moist with your last two posts.

Welfare mothers make better lovers.
- Der Kaiser

Divorcee!

Down at every laundromat in town while they’re washing you can hear the sound, now.
- Der Kaiser

Out on the street
with the whole family now

Bob McKenzie dropping the big 'C' word (culture) and how it must change on the Sabres.

But hey, culture is probably fake.
- TheSabresTaco

was it the kale and black beans?


beef, it's what's for dinner

You made me moist with your last two posts.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

was it the kale and black beans?


beef, it's what's for dinner
- homiedclown

black bean burgers and kale shakes and tofu rosemary dogs mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

How did Vegas put together a brand new team and instantly have good culture
- sbroads24

Prolly has a lot to do with Gallant. I wanted us to get him badly as DD was stinking the league up with his personal brand of sissstem. Coaches DO matter.

Yes, there was some coach bashing when DD crapped the bed but it's far outweighed by the cries of the "players aren't playing the coach's system" crowd.

Good coaches get their team ready to play, and design their system to maximize the potential of their players. Period.

Ya know what, fine.

This question is so easy to answer. Look at what the Bills have done. Want me to dig in? And no, I'm not directly referring making the playoffs.

Culture, by my definition and how it relates to sports, is ultimate cohesion between the players, the coaches, the organization, and the goals that each entity is striving to achieve. "Culture" is when all of those entities are fully committed to their jobs, their teammates and the organization to 'buy in' 100% and do whatever is necessary to win, on and off the playing field.

All gears are working in the system.

When one of those gears turns in the opposite direction or stops working, you have a problem. The more of those malfunctioning gears show up, the more problems you have.

The Bills have eliminated many of those, and they took a team with average at best talent to the playoffs.

You consistently hear about the poor culture in the Sabres room, how not all players are buying into the system, how some couldn't care less, how some accept losing and just care about their pay check. How to you expect to win when a portion of your players do not have the same goals in mind? How some play for themselves, some ignore the system and some just flat out don't care? Or care enough?

That's culture. Everyone pulling in one direction the most honest and sincere way possible. The Bills have started this, and it shows. The Sabres have not, and it shows.
- TheSabresTaco

Please, do, and while you are at it, please reference how the last 10 coaches that came through Buffalo all talked about changing the culture of this team. Doug Marrone changed the culture by taking out all the games from the locker room, Rex changed it by letting the players have more freedom.

Rex Ryan had one of the "worst cultures" in sports, his team went 8-8.

The Bills made the playoffs on a fluke play from Cincinnati.

If Beane and McDermott miss on Allen, it's not because they missed on culture its because they missed on talent and they too will end up like any previous coach and GM, with a pink slip in their hand and looking for a new job.

Losing = bad culture
winning = good culture

unless you are the Patriots, whom every player hates playing for but they continue to win because they have the most talented QB on the face of the earth.

Prolly has a lot to do with Gallant. I wanted us to get him badly as DD was stinking the league up with his personal brand of sissstem. Coaches DO matter.

Yes, there was some coach bashing when DD crapped the bed but it's far outweighed by the cries of the "players aren't playing the coach's system" crowd.

Good coaches get their team ready to play, and design their system to maximize the potential of their players. Period.
- LandlordTom

Good post. You see a lot of Harringtons out there not even flashing a glance at the coach. But culture starts from leadership. Your owner, your GM, your coach. That needs to filter down to your players. McDermott and Beane have been excellent at delivering a solid and unified message. They go after guys who fit their mold to a Tee. But the coach has a big role in getting the players ready to play, instilling a system to play in, and making sure every one of those players buys in.

Ya know what, fine.

This question is so easy to answer. Look at what the Bills have done. Want me to dig in? And no, I'm not directly referring making the playoffs.

Culture, by my definition and how it relates to sports, is ultimate cohesion between the players, the coaches, the organization, and the goals that each entity is striving to achieve. "Culture" is when all of those entities are fully committed to their jobs, their teammates and the organization to 'buy in' 100% and do whatever is necessary to win, on and off the playing field.

All gears are working in the system.

When one of those gears turns in the opposite direction or stops working, you have a problem. The more of those malfunctioning gears show up, the more problems you have.

The Bills have eliminated many of those, and they took a team with average at best talent to the playoffs.

You consistently hear about the poor culture in the Sabres room, how not all players are buying into the system, how some couldn't care less, how some accept losing and just care about their pay check. How to you expect to win when a portion of your players do not have the same goals in mind? How some play for themselves, some ignore the system and some just flat out don't care? Or care enough?

That's culture. Everyone pulling in one direction the most honest and sincere way possible. The Bills have started this, and it shows. The Sabres have not, and it shows.
- TheSabresTaco

Very well done!
May I add that culture includes having a leadership in ownership, management, and player ranks that hold one another accountable to all be pulling the oars in the right direction and speed such that the whole is greater than the sum of the parts.

When leadership is lost. ... as I need your Detroit example, then the accountability to said culture of buying into one for all and all for one goes as well...hence a rather dramatic breakdown.

Some get it, others don’t.
Get rid of those who don’t ...unless you like oiling the poop out of several bad ball bearings and accept subpar performace. But when gunning for a championship, best to replace the bad parts.

Please, do, and while you are at it, please reference how the last 10 coaches that came through Buffalo all talked about changing the culture of this team. Doug Marrone changed the culture by taking out all the games from the locker room, Rex changed it by letting the players have more freedom.

Rex Ryan had one of the "worst cultures" in sports, his team went 8-8.

The Bills made the playoffs on a fluke play from Cincinnati.

If Beane and McDermott miss on Allen, it's not because they missed on culture its because they missed on talent and they too will end up like any previous coach and GM, with a pink slip in their hand and looking for a new job.

Losing = bad culture
winning = good culture

unless you are the Patriots, whom every player hates playing for but they continue to win because they have the most talented QB on the face of the earth.
- ImThatGuy

This is where I stopped reading because you're polluting the argument.

Talent isn't everything. Speed isn't everything. Chemistry isn't everything. Agility isn't everything. Faceoffs are not everything. Offense isn't everything. Culture isn't everything.

Stop tainting the argument with culture is everything. Because it's not.

I had no idea Buffalo was a suburb of Detroit
- TheSabresTaco

People that make fun of people are pretty idiotic it's not a place for young kids but to settle down and start a family it's a great place I miss going to all the summer events and Erie County Fair , Corn Festival , apple picking

Ugh sad times

- TheSabresTaco

Whole Lotta Love

People that make fun of people are pretty idiotic it's not a place for young kids but to settle down and start a family it's a great place I miss going to all the summer events and Erie County Fair , Corn Festival , apple picking

Ugh sad times
- gerbe75pts

Simpleton trolls. Whatever. That comment gets a ban in the Toronto thread.

Please, do, and while you are at it, please reference how the last 10 coaches that came through Buffalo all talked about changing the culture of this team. Doug Marrone changed the culture by taking out all the games from the locker room, Rex changed it by letting the players have more freedom.

Rex Ryan had one of the "worst cultures" in sports, his team went 8-8.

The Bills made the playoffs on a fluke play from Cincinnati.

If Beane and McDermott miss on Allen, it's not because they missed on culture its because they missed on talent and they too will end up like any previous coach and GM, with a pink slip in their hand and looking for a new job.

Losing = bad culture
winning = good culture

unless you are the Patriots, whom every player hates playing for but they continue to win because they have the most talented QB on the face of the earth.
- ImThatGuy

The Song Remains The Same

Shea Weber, 3rd overall Pick, Gally,

Bogosian, ROR, 2nd Round pick.

C'mon Bergi, do it.
- ImThatGuy

I really think it be Weber ,3rd ,Gally ,Poehling
For ROR

This is where I stopped reading because you're polluting the argument.

Talent isn't everything. Speed isn't everything. Chemistry isn't everything. Agility isn't everything. Faceoffs are not everything. Offense isn't everything. Culture isn't everything.

Stop tainting the argument with culture is everything. Because it's not.
- TheSabresTaco

How in a debate about culture is asking why the last 10 coaches failed to change the culture polluting the argument?

If Josh Allen is good the Bills will be good, if Josh Allen is bad the Bills will be bad and it has zero to do with culture.

The Song Remains The Same
- LandlordTom

Is it because none of those coaches were able to find a QB?
Or
Was it because they failed to properly define the culture?

How in a debate about culture is asking why the last 10 coaches failed to change the culture polluting the argument?

If Josh Allen is good the Bills will be good, if Josh Allen is bad the Bills will be bad and it has zero to do with culture.
- ImThatGuy

they need to fix the o line if they want to give josh allen a chance to be good though


IMO the o line is the biggest issue with this roster, even over wr

Trade the loser that has experienced nothing but losing that's ROR

The last time he was on a winning team was age 18 that just shows me he doesn't have the extra gear push the team forward