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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 15 @ 9:14 PM ET
He wasn’t actually 32nd for centers
There’s guys included that played the wing
Also,
O’Reilly does more than just score

Analytics EXPERTS... who analyze ALL the stats...
rank O’Reilly in the 20s

That’s based on what the numbers say,
and isn’t influenced by personal bias bc he supposedly isn’t a good leader

- jdfitz77

you totally ignored my post


these 10 centers scored fewer points then ror


duchene
scheifele
getzlaff
jt miller
zetterberg
johansen
stastny
toews
tyler johnson
turris



how many of them would you play over ror in a game 7?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 15 @ 9:14 PM ET

- stillneedyourana$$button

agreed
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

May 15 @ 9:15 PM ET
winning cures most
- homiedclown

Stats suck.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 15 @ 9:16 PM ET
He wasn’t actually 32nd for centers
There’s guys included that played the wing
Also,
O’Reilly does more than just score

Analytics EXPERTS...
who analyze ALL the stats...
not JUST 5v5...
rank O’Reilly in the 20s

That’s based on what the numbers say,
and isn’t influenced by personal bias bc he supposedly isn’t a good leader

- jdfitz77


If we do trade him, your point is going to be validated.

Ror is gonna bring back some big pieces, he's well respected around the nhl.

Broads is just hating - constantly
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 15 @ 9:19 PM ET
http://www.quanthockey.co...18-nhl-players-stats.html


paul byron had a better pp60 even strength number than ror
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 15 @ 9:19 PM ET
https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/g/gerbena01.html

his first full season as a sabre

14 goals


of course he never got more than 31 points in a season

- homiedclown


My boy
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 15 @ 9:19 PM ET
Stats suck.
- cabin

ror's baby mom agrees
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 15 @ 9:20 PM ET
My boy
- gerbe31pts

change your name
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 15 @ 9:20 PM ET
you totally ignored my post

these 10 centers scored fewer points then ror

duchene
scheifele
getzlaff
jt miller
zetterberg
johansen
stastny
toews
tyler johnson
turris

how many of them would you play over ror in a game 7?

- homiedclown


Schieffle
Toews
Maybe Johanssen

And i didn’t ignore your post
I was stating that your opinion on ROR is biased, and that’s why you’d take most of those guys over him

Analytics doesn’t have any bias,
they just go by the numbers

Analytics don’t tell the whole story...
but you’re ranking O’Reilly about 20spots lower than what the number say

Unless he’s ACTUALLY A PROBLEM in the room, then it’s ridiculous to drop him so far
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 15 @ 9:21 PM ET
If we do trade him, your point is going to be validated.

Ror is gonna bring back some big pieces, he's well respected around the nhl.

Broads is just hating - constantly

- Boss34


He’s even more stubborn than me...
and that’s saying something!
Hahaha
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 15 @ 9:21 PM ET


Unless he’s ACTUALLY A PROBLEM in the room, then it’s ridiculous to drop him so far

- jdfitz77





getting warmer


sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 15 @ 9:22 PM ET
ror was 32nd in scoring for centers

guys below him
duchene
scheifele
getzlaff
jt miller
zetterberg
johansen
stastny
toews
tyler johnson
turris
Scheifele missed 20 games as well

I would take most of those 10 before ror for a 1 game winner take all situation

- homiedclown

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 15 @ 9:24 PM ET
He’s even more stubborn than me...
and that’s saying something!
Hahaha

- jdfitz77

👍
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 15 @ 9:25 PM ET
change your name
- homiedclown


Never
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 15 @ 9:25 PM ET
http://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/seasons/2017-18-nhl-players-stats.html


paul byron had a better pp60 even strength number than ror

- homiedclown


Brandon Pirri is ahead of Malkin, Crosby, McDavid, and every other great player in the league
Singling out a particular analytic is a horrible idea as a basis to tell how good/bad a player is

When u take ALL that stats & put them together...
ROR generally ranks a little better than 25th best Center in the whole league
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 15 @ 9:25 PM ET
Funfact for all the people that care about faceoffs
Ryan O'Reilly even thinks it's overrated
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

May 15 @ 9:25 PM ET
ror's baby mom agrees
- homiedclown

If she was good at it .. the baby wouldn't be here
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 15 @ 9:26 PM ET
Schieffle
Toews
Maybe Johanssen

And i didn’t ignore your post
I was stating that your opinion on ROR is biased, and that’s why you’d take most of those guys over him

Analytics doesn’t have any bias,
they just go by the numbers


Analytics don’t tell the whole story...
but you’re ranking O’Reilly about 20spots lower than what the number say

Unless he’s ACTUALLY A PROBLEM in the room, then it’s ridiculous to drop him so far

- jdfitz77

I’m very proud of how far you’ve come along on analytics since they fit your narrative.

Can’t wait until they don’t again. Then we can read the “BS stats” posts from you every other page.

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 15 @ 9:27 PM ET
Brandon Pirri is ahead of Malkin, Crosby, McDavid, and every other great player in the league
Singling out a particular analytic is a horrible idea as a basis to tell how good/bad a player is

When u take ALL that stats & put them together...
ROR generally ranks a little better than 25th best Center in the whole league

- jdfitz77

You mean in the 2 games he played ?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 15 @ 9:27 PM ET
getting warmer


- homiedclown


I asked u flat out if he was a problem in the room

You said u hadn’t heard that he is

Has that changed?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 15 @ 9:30 PM ET
Funfact for all the people that care about faceoffs
Ryan O'Reilly even thinks it's overrated

- gerbe75pts


Mittelstadt’s poor 5v5 numbers are ok,
bc Minnesota had a terrible offense

Buffalo had a terrible offense as well,
but O’Reilly gets ripped for his 5v5 numbers

Justify the contradiction,
I’ll wait.....
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 15 @ 9:32 PM ET

When u take ALL that stats & put them together...
ROR generally ranks a little better than 20th best Center in the whole league

- jdfitz77

ok darcy
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

May 15 @ 9:34 PM ET
Mittelstadt’s poor 5v5 numbers are ok,
bc Minnesota had a terrible offense

Buffalo had a terrible offense as well,
but O’Reilly gets ripped for his 5v5 numbers

Justify the contradiction,
I’ll wait.....

- jdfitz77


RoR seems like and anchor for a talented team . he does things the total package player isn't programmed to do. ex : faceoffs , defensive play. experience . Worth his celery ? I don't think so . but without him we would be wining for that player and would pay dearly for one .
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 15 @ 9:34 PM ET
I asked u flat out if he was a problem in the room

You said u hadn’t heard that he is

Has that changed?

- jdfitz77

the rumor of him and jack not getting along has legs


I don't think they move him, like I said last week

I fully expect either casey to be on jack's wing, or playing with ror and ror taking the faceoffs


dahlin changes everything
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 15 @ 9:34 PM ET
Mittelstadt’s poor 5v5 numbers are ok,
bc Minnesota had a terrible offense

Buffalo had a terrible offense as well,
but O’Reilly gets ripped for his 5v5 numbers

Justify the contradiction,
I’ll wait.....

- jdfitz77

Mittelstadt isn’t making $7.5M a year.
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