"...And Justice for All" is the most underrated Metallica Album. Even with the shoddy production.


That is all.

So Mitts at 2C gets 45-50 points. That pretty much by default means that ROR is at 1LW, because there's 0 chance that if Mitts and ROR are both at center, that ROR plays less than Mitts.

It would obviously benefit ROR enormously if Mitts could take some even-strength minutes away from ROR, so that ROR could get down to maybe 18 minutes, so that his PP and PK prowess can be utilized better.

So to answer your question, the emergence of Mitts as a bonafide point-producing center would help both ROR and the team.

Again, I would trade ROR for a Panarin or Taresenko-type winger, and throw in one of the picks you covet as building blocks (#32 overall).
- jcragcrumple

What are you going to do when ROR is moved :/

team is struggling and it trades for scott wilson


tank was on once they were 10 games into the season
- homiedclown

And ended when they let jack almost sabotage it

What are you going to do when ROR is moved :/
- gerbe75pts

If he's moved, I'll continue being a fan of this franchise because I love hockey, and I love the Sabres more than NHL-hockey itself. If he and Risto are moved for futures, I'm gonna check out of this season, because I'm not gonna watch tank hockey when they have a chance to be good this year.

But based on his comments, I don't think Botts is gonna do that

What are you going to do when ROR is moved :/
- gerbe75pts

I heard it's only happening if a team massively overpays


fwiw

So Mitts at 2C gets 45-50 points. That pretty much by default means that ROR is at 1LW, because there's 0 chance that if Mitts and ROR are both at center, that ROR plays less than Mitts.

It would obviously benefit ROR enormously if Mitts could take some even-strength minutes away from ROR, so that ROR could get down to maybe 18 minutes, so that his PP and PK prowess can be utilized better.

So to answer your question, the emergence of Mitts as a bonafide point-producing center would help both ROR and the team.

Again, I would trade ROR for a Panarin or Taresenko-type winger, and throw in one of the picks you covet as building blocks (#32 overall).
- jcragcrumple

I’m talking about this conversation in a year from now, after Mitts tears it up and it’s apparent he’s taking over as a top 6 Center.

I’m fine with O’Reilly at LW in the top 6. Or even the 3 spot. But not at 7.5 cap hit when we’re staring down the barrel of Mitts, Dahlin, Reinhart contracts within 2 years of that.

The only 7+ wingers that should be around are the Pat Kane’s and Tarasenko’s of the world

I’m talking about this conversation in a year from now, after Mitts tears it up and it’s apparent he’s taking over as a top 6 Center.

I’m fine with O’Reilly at LW in the top 6. Or even the 3 spot. But not at 7.5 cap hit when we’re staring down the barrel of Mitts, Dahlin, Reinhart contracts within 2 years of that.

The only 7+ wingers that should be around are the Pat Kane’s and Tarasenko’s of the world
- sbroads24

So you're not ok with him in the top 6

So you're not ok with him in the top 6
- jcragcrumple

A player like him, yes, which I don't feel is hard to locate.

I don't want the guy traded for peanuts. And if they don't trade him, so be it. I'll root for him to help us win.

I just think GMJB knows he isn't going to be one of our top 5-6 players in a year or so, and it would be foolish to not capitalize on a team that might view him that way.

Look at every rebuilding team, they all have to move out players when there young stars get paid. Kyle Okpsos isn't getting traded. He has no value, dude was in intensive care a calendar year ago.

I mean, you can convince me that Reinhart should be moved before Oreilly, but he's 22, and fits our timeline

So the mid first is Girgensons, but the 32nd pick with a hypothetical + should get us Max Domi?
- sbroads24

Did i say that?
NOPE
Just more sh!t you’re throwing against the wall

And i never even said “a mid 1st is girgensons”

What i did say was
“a mid 1st is just as likely to turn out to be Girgensons as it is Pasternak”

But u just go ahead and pick & choose what part of my statements to quote

More cherry picking
Just like u do with stats

A player like him, yes, which I don't feel is hard to locate.

I don't want the guy traded for peanuts. And if they don't trade him, so be it. I'll root for him to help us win.

I just think GMJB knows he isn't going to be one of our top 5-6 players in a year or so, and it would be foolish to not capitalize on a team that might view him that way.

Look at every rebuilding team, they all have to move out players when there young stars get paid. Kyle Okpsos isn't getting traded. He has no value, dude was in intensive care a calendar year ago.

I mean, you can convince me that Reinhart should be moved before Oreilly, but he's 22, and fits our timeline
- sbroads24

I understand your logic, but I disagree with you.

I want to keep our good players. If that means we have to pay draft picks to clear $22m in cap (Moulson, Pommer, Bogo, Okposo) in order to accommodate his cap hit, so be it. Let's deal with the almost 1/3 of the cap space that's dead before we worry about moving productive players

We should have our young core now (Eichel, Dahlin, Mitts, Reinhart, Risto). ROR is the perfect compliment to them.

I heard it's only happening if a team massively overpays


fwiw
- homiedclown

And when John Tavares signs teams will be lining up to us

Did i say that?
NOPE
Just more sh!t you’re throwing against the wall

And i never even said “a mid 1st is girgensons”

What i did say was
“a mid 1st is just as likely to turn out to be Girgensons as it is Pasternak”

But u just go ahead and pick & choose what part of my statements to quote

More cherry picking
Just like u do with stats
- jdfitz77

You're right you didn't. And I wasn't quoting you.

I just watched that Bohemian trailer I never knew they did the suicide Squad songs

I understand your logic, but I disagree with you.

I want to keep our good players. If that means we have to pay draft picks to clear $22m in cap (Moulson, Pommer, Bogo, Okposo) in order to accommodate his cap hit, so be it. Let's deal with the almost 1/3 of the cap space that's dead before we worry about moving productive players

We should have our young core now (Eichel, Dahlin, Mitts, Reinhart, Risto). ROR is the perfect compliment to them.
- jcragcrumple

I do too. I also want a window of 10 years or so where we can keep them with limited albatross contracts that are tough to move, epsecially ones that aren't playing a key role.

If we were banging on the door of cup contention, there's no way I'd deal him for the 11th pick and prospect, but we aren't close

I do too. I also want a window of 10 years or so where we can keep them with limited albatross contracts that are tough to move, epsecially ones that aren't playing a key role.

If we were banging on the door of cup contention, there's no way I'd deal him for the 11th pick and prospect, but we aren't close
- sbroads24

Hope springs eternal, and I think we're closer than you think

Erod-Mittlestadt-Baptiste

Is eerily similar to vanek-roy-pominville as a 3rd line

I just watched that Bohemian trailer I never knew they did the suicide Squad songs
- gerbe75pts

Who are "they"?

You're right you didn't. And I wasn't quoting you.
- sbroads24

Neither did J Crag
He said,
“It’s a statistical fact that the player u draft (in the mid 1st and lower) has a BETTER CHANCE of being a 4th liner or worse, than (the pick has) of becoming a good player”

Nice to know u don’t only cherry pick from what i say

I just watched that Bohemian trailer I never knew they did the suicide Squad songs
- gerbe75pts

more proof you are not ready



watch flash gordon

If we were banging on the door of cup contention, there's no way I'd deal him for the 11th pick and prospect, but we aren't close
- sbroads24

I can't see the house, let alone the door to bang on

Who are "they"?
- Wetbandit1

I have no clue I just saw them signing that Mamma Mia song in Suicide Squad

2C, where he's going to be in a year anyways.

The kid is the real deal. Him being on this team will improve our record by itself.
- sbroads24

https://www.google.com/am...5_statistics_for_the_top/

From the article:
“I tossed Rasmussen in the end just to show how abysmal Mittelstadt's 5v5 data is.”

So how is it that you’re so high on Casey,
yet so down on ROR for his 5v5 numbers?

I have no clue I just saw them signing that Mamma Mia song in Suicide Squad
- gerbe75pts

Yeah, definitely not ready.

I'm also pretty sure they say the band's name in the trailer. Watch it again.

Add getting more players to balance the offense
- gerbe75pts

Rask and Hanifin are going to make up those 60 points?
Okay.

Yeah, definitely not ready.

I'm also pretty sure they say the band's name in the trailer. Watch it again.
- Wetbandit1

Watching now

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/canucks/comments/68f5qw/a_look_at_5v5_statistics_for_the_top/

From the article:
“I tossed Rasmussen in the end just to show how abysmal Mittelstadt's 5v5 data is.”

So how is it that you’re so high on Casey,
yet so down on ROR for his 5v5 numbers?
- jdfitz77

Because I don't care about his 5 on 5 college numbers, and I've seen O'Reilly struggle to score 5 on 5 for 3 straight years?