We all have our favorites.

I once thought Myers was better than Subban.
- sbroads24

Last jersey I ever bought.

He was ruined by the Chara comparison, everyone wanted him to be Chara.

I would still take him back. He would be a good 3-4 D-man, under Housley.

I'd rather not trade any capable D-man at the moment.

Create one hole to fill another still leaves your boat sinking.
- ImThatGuy

But you have three other defenseman that play the same position ?

This is going to be exactly like the Kane situation we're going to wait too long and his value is going to go down sell high for once
- gerbe75pts

So we should have sold when he was being investigated for sexual assault? Kane's value was never as high as we or Murray thought

Last jersey I ever bought.

He was ruined by the Chara comparison, everyone wanted him to be Chara.

I would still take him back. He would be a good 3-4 D-man, under Housley.
- ImThatGuy

My jersey have been
Vanek
Roy turned into Ott
Myers
Bernier
Gerbe
foligno
Bobby Ryan
Ennis
Hogson
RoR

So as you can see ROR will be traded lol

But you have three other defenseman that play the same position ?
- gerbe75pts

just because they play does not mean they are any good.

McCabe is on a cheap contract. I'd rather not move him.

So we should have sold when he was being investigated for sexual assault? Kane's value was never as high as we or Murray thought
- jcragcrumple

He would have been traded on draft day To Minnesota for Brodin, or so the story goes.

So we should have sold when he was being investigated for sexual assault? Kane's value was never as high as we or Murray thought
- jcragcrumple

No his value was high in the beginning of the season when he was red hot then of course we waited and thought we could get maximum value for him that worked out great

I didn't say I thought ROR was better than Panarin, I said he can be as important to a team as Panarin
- jcragcrumple

I'll jsut never agree with that.

Panarin had 61 EV points. O'Reilly had 61 points.

I think his defense is valuable. But I'll use the same argument I always used to defend Ovechkin or even Eichel.

People act like guys like Ovi or Eichel sit down and take a nap once the puck leaves the O-zone, while guys like O'Reilly play defense and goalie, it's just over rated.

Just for example

Goals against per 60 at 5 on 5

Eichel 2.86
O'Reilly 2.41

Now, of course O'Reilly is the superior D player, no dispute, but Eichel's superior offense to ROR's makes the difference null and void, and then some.

Panarin is on Eichel's level offensively

just because they play does not mean they are any good.

McCabe is on a cheap contract. I'd rather not move him.
- ImThatGuy

What you're getting Max Domi and a high pick
And that high pick could be a defenseman that could be a first pairing or you could get a Winger

No his value was high in the beginning of the season when he was red hot then of course we waited and thought we could get maximum value for him that worked out great
- gerbe75pts

This was one of the best seasons, and his healthiest season, and he kept his nose clean for 18 months. We did sell high. High just wasn't what we thought it was. So if we're getting a comparable, or slightly better return for ROR, they'd be wise to keep him.

He was ruined by the Chara comparison, everyone wanted him to be Chara.

- ImThatGuy

I never understood this.
When you draft a player, its based on what you have seen them do up to draft day.
Why did they suddenly think they could turn him in to Chris Pronger?

I never understood this.
When you draft a player, its based on what you have seen them do up to draft day.
Why did they suddenly think they could turn him in to Chris Pronger?
- seedy

He was tall.
End of story.

What you're getting Max Domi and a high pick
And that high pick could be a defenseman that could be a first pairing or you could get a Winger
- gerbe75pts

it would be ROR, McCabbe +++
for that offer.

I'll pass.

I'll jsut never agree with that.

Panarin had 61 EV points. O'Reilly had 61 points.

I think his defense is valuable. But I'll use the same argument I always used to defend Ovechkin or even Eichel.

People act like guys like Ovi or Eichel sit down and take a nap once the puck leaves the O-zone, while guys like O'Reilly play defense and goalie, it's just over rated.

Just for example

Goals against per 60 at 5 on 5

Eichel 2.86
O'Reilly 2.41

Now, of course O'Reilly is the superior D player, no dispute, but Eichel's superior offense to ROR's makes the difference null and void, and then some.

Panarin is on Eichel's level offensively
- sbroads24

And you'd probably trade him for #11 and Ho Sang. I'm done with maybes and potential. We have a sure thing here. Different strokes for Sabres folks

Spicy

Every time somebody quotes it, it stays.
- seedy

The one that wasn't hypertext, it's plaintext links that (frank)s up pages. It's still there on his post that he quoted jcrag.

This one:

And you'd probably trade him for #11 and Ho Sang. I'm done with maybes and potential. We have a sure thing here. Different strokes for Sabres folks
- jcragcrumple

I probably would.

I’d also be able to use the 6 mil in additional cap space to sign other guys that can play roles for my team.

We're gonna run ROR out of town, just like we do with all our good players, and we'll try to convince ourselves that the modest return we get will be better as the sum of the parts. Everyone will mf him on the way out of town and we'll be worse off.

Why do you say that ? He’s Exactly what this team needs and we can force the Red Wings to trade him to us ..just like the blue jackets did when they did their offer sheet
- gerbe75pts

Go ahead and count up all the offer sheets over the last 5 years compared to the number of RFAs of the nonexclusive variety.

just because they play does not mean they are any good.

McCabe is on a cheap contract. I'd rather not move him.
- ImThatGuy

Would you do Mccabe + RoR for Panarin or Tarasenko as the main pieces of a deal?

Go ahead and count up all the offer sheets over the last 5 years compared to the number of RFAs of the nonexclusive variety.
- Wetbandit1

The blue jackets

We're gonna run ROR out of town, just like we do with all our good players, and we'll try to convince ourselves that the modest return we get will be better as the sum of the parts. Everyone will mf him on the way out of town and we'll be worse off.
- jcragcrumple

Good he’s a fake

Offer sheet William Nylander. I'd give up next years first, second, and third for him.

Good he’s a fake
- gerbe75pts

When was the last time we got rid of a good player, and the trade return was better than the player we gave up?

We're gonna run ROR out of town, just like we do with all our good players, and we'll try to convince ourselves that the modest return we get will be better as the sum of the parts. Everyone will mf him on the way out of town and we'll be worse off.
- jcragcrumple

Winnipeg probably feels the exact same way about Evander Kane right now