All he has to do is delete the link and the page will be fixed.
- Wetbandit1

Every time somebody quotes it, it stays.

I will say this. Look at the point differentials of all those players with > 1,600 minutes.

Again, I do not think ROR is bad, I also think the Sabres should explore trading him.
- ImThatGuy

For the record, I think the only player who is untouchable is Eichel. Botts should listen to calls on ROR. But trading him for a mid first will blow up in our face, just like Gaustad and a 4th for a first did. Turns out that the 4th rounder (Saros) is better than Girgensons. If they're gonna get an elite winger, sure, look at it. But I guarantee trading ROR for picks and prospects will make us look silly.

Everyone has been projecting ROR's downfall for a year or two, but he keeps cranking out his 20g, 40a seasons with all the other statistical anomalies (single-season FO leader, 2 pims) that he reproduces every year. You win cups with his solid 2-way play. He will be a beast in the playoffs.

Do you want to trade that for a lottery ticket? I don't.

yes, and he'd be the same player, but his perception would take a dive.

He's at a high point right now
- sbroads24

ROR, 2nd round pick.
for
Cap dump, 1st round pick.
In this scenario i imagine trading into the top 5, preferably top 2-3

Yeah, sure, "could", but never in a hundred years will we.
- Wetbandit1

Why do you say that ? He’s Exactly what this team needs and we can force the Red Wings to trade him to us ..just like the blue jackets did when they did their offer sheet

I think regardless of points/stats RoR seems pretty likely to go back down the path he did in Colorado.

As soon as it became clear RoR would never be THE man on this team he has given up on leading and it won't be long before he starts the same act he did in colorado if his comments at locker clean out this year werent already the start.

He is a good player and has value around the league. He is our best chip to bring back young talented players and we need to do this while his perceived value is at its highest. If he starts down the whining path again like he did in colorado we will be stuck with a 7.5 million dollar 3rd line center

For the record, I think the only player who is untouchable is Eichel. Botts should listen to calls on ROR. But trading him for a mid first will blow up in our face, just like Gaustad and a 4th for a first did. Turns out that the 4th rounder (Saros) is better than Girgensons. If they're gonna get an elite winger, sure, look at it. But I guarantee trading ROR for picks and prospects will make us look silly.

Everyone has been projecting ROR's downfall for a year or two, but he keeps cranking out his 20g, 40a seasons with all the other statistical anomalies (single-season FO leader, 2 pims) that he reproduces every year. You win cups with his solid 2-way play. He will be a beast in the playoffs.

Do you want to trade that for a lottery ticket? I don't.
- jcragcrumple

IF that lottery ticket is the 2nd or 3rd overall pick. Absolutely.

If not for that, I explore trying to shake up another team who may be willing to move its core. AKA STL.
Looking at you Taresenko.

ROR, 2nd round pick.
for
Cap dump, 1st round pick.
In this scenario i imagine trading into the top 5, preferably top 2-3
- ImThatGuy

RoR to Arizona for Max , and 2018 first

For the record, I think the only player who is untouchable is Eichel. Botts should listen to calls on ROR. But trading him for a mid first will blow up in our face, just like Gaustad and a 4th for a first did. Turns out that the 4th rounder (Saros) is better than Girgensons. If they're gonna get an elite winger, sure, look at it. But I guarantee trading ROR for picks and prospects will make us look silly.

Everyone has been projecting ROR's downfall for a year or two, but he keeps cranking out his 20g, 40a seasons with all the other statistical anomalies (single-season FO leader, 2 pims) that he reproduces every year. You win cups with his solid 2-way play. He will be a beast in the playoffs.

Do you want to trade that for a lottery ticket? I don't.
- jcragcrumple

What's weird is his FO% is a lowly 46% in the playoffs

RoR to Arizona for Max , and 2018 first
- gerbe75pts

Way to much from ARZ

IF that lottery ticket is the 2nd or 3rd overall pick. Absolutely.

If not for that, I explore trying to shake up another team who may be willing to move its core. AKA STL.
Looking at you Taresenko.
- ImThatGuy

I agree, if the 1st coming back is top 5 I would do it all day.

If not, we should be shooting for established quick wingers

IF that lottery ticket is the 2nd or 3rd overall pick. Absolutely.

If not for that, I explore trying to shake up another team who may be willing to move its core. AKA STL.
Looking at you Taresenko.
- ImThatGuy

Absolutely, or Panarin, or someone else. I personally think that ROR can be just as important to a team as a guy like that. To sell him for a mid-first is an absolute waste.

I agree, if the 1st coming back is top 5 I would do it all day.

If not, we should be shooting for established quick wingers
- Shadman306

Maybe its just me, But i really like the Taresenko for ROR main pieces to a deal.

no Idea if STL would even consider it though.

Way to much from ARZ
- ImThatGuy

Add Jake in

Absolutely, or Panarin, or someone else. I personally think that ROR can be just as important to a team as a guy like that. To sell him for a mid-first is an absolute waste.
- jcragcrumple

If we could move RoR for either of Panarin or Tarasenko as the main pieces I doubt any of the RoR apologists could remain angry about it.

What's weird is his FO% is a lowly 46% in the playoffs
- sbroads24

In '13-'14 he had 6p in 7gp.

If we could move RoR for either of Panarin or Tarasenko as the main pieces I doubt any of the RoR apologists could remain angry about it.
- Shadman306

I am one of those so-called apologists, so on behalf of me, I would be fine with it

This will be the year to trade ROR

Teams are going to be lining up for John Tavares knowing that they have to pay him $10 to 11 million dollars

Once he signs with a different team those teams will be lining up for Ryan O'Reilly and we're going to get a major payday

In '13-'14 he had 6p in 7gp.
- jcragcrumple

That was pre -passion loss though

Absolutely, or Panarin, or someone else. I personally think that ROR can be just as important to a team as a guy like that. To sell him for a mid-first is an absolute waste.
- jcragcrumple

Tarasenko had a down year with 33 goals, but averages almost 37 per year the last 4.

If you think O'Reilly is as important as a premier top 10 NHL goal scorer, then of course you wouldn't want him dealt for anything. There's no reasoning with that

That was pre -passion loss though
- sbroads24

And he had his second-best season this year, so while snarky, your comment has no point

Add Jake in
- gerbe75pts

I'd rather not trade any capable D-man at the moment.

Create one hole to fill another still leaves your boat sinking.

Tarasenko had a down year with 33 goals, but averages almost 37 per year the last 4.

If you think O'Reilly is as important as a premier top 10 NHL goal scorer, then of course you wouldn't want him dealt for anything. There's no reasoning with that
- sbroads24

I really don't want to move him. I feel the same aswhat people are saying about Botts. He's listening, but not looking to move him

I really don't want to move him. I feel the same aswhat people are saying about Botts. Listen, but not looking to move him
- jcragcrumple

We all have our favorites.

I once thought Myers was better than Subban.

We all have our favorites.

I once thought Myers was better than Subban.
- sbroads24

I didn't say I thought ROR was better than Panarin, I said he can be as important to a team as Panarin

I really don't want to move him. I feel the same aswhat people are saying about Botts. He's listening, but not looking to move him
- jcragcrumple

This is going to be exactly like the Kane situation we're going to wait too long and his value is going to go down sell high for once