Now all these guys are still pretty young.

But....

Werenski, Provorov, Hanifin, Barzal, Rantanen, Connor, Juulsen, Boeser, Chabot are all in the conversation here.

Not saying they are better than Marner, just that they're also very good.

Damn what a great draft year.
- Scabeh

Only the first 4 are in the convo with Marner as of now

OK, but at what point do Dubas and Hunter share the blame for us having such piss-poor defence?
- Atomic Wedgie

Rumor at the start of the year was dubas wanted c.miller out of vegas and lou didn’t. if true, that would have helped us.

Shanny has the insight into who wanted what move; including ones that were passed on. Dumping lou would not have been easy. There has to be things internally that pushed him to do it.

Only the first 3 are in the convo with Marner as of now
- Fakepartofme

Might want to google Barzal.

Might want to google Barzal.
- AdamFrench

Or Rantanen... or Connor...

And for the record, yes including Juulsen was a joke. He's good but not that good.

Rumor at the start of the year was dubas wanted c.miller out of vegas and lou didn’t. if true, that would have helped us.

Shanny has the insight into who wanted what move; including ones that were passed on. Dumping lou would not have been easy. There has to be things internally that pushed him to do it.
- Tumbleweed

I might be wrong, but I think it was Lou's idea to step aside

Might want to google Barzal.
- AdamFrench

Meh....85 point players are a dime a dozen....oh wait.

Ya toss him in there as well....missed him

Or Rantanen... or Connor...

And for the record, yes including Juulsen was a joke. He's good but not that good.
- Scabeh

No I missed Barzal....not the other two

And how was MARNER not a great pick? you a big Carolina fan? watch Hanifin TONS? id much prefer MARNER as he's been a STUD. Tell me another guy in the 4-7 range that's shown more promise.
- Burkefection

their next best option was trading down to 8. 30 seconds in.

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No I missed Barzal....not the other two
- Fakepartofme

Rantanen just ended the season witb 84 points.

Connor 57 in 76 games.

Boeser 55 in 62.

They are very much in the same conversation imo.

I guess we disagree.

In seven playoff games this year, Andersen had a GAA of 3.76 and a SV% of .896

That doesn't scare you a little?
- Atomic Wedgie

No.
Because he had garbage d in front of him...they did him no favours.
Leafs need to replace half thei D this off season.

Rantanen just ended the season witb 84 points.

Connor 57 in 76 games.

Boeser 55 in 62.

They are very much in the same conversation imo.

I guess we disagree.
- Scabeh

84 pts not 85.
So he didn’t make the cut.
Is this forum you have to include the leafs fan curve which increase the players talent and points by 25%.
Which makes Marner an 86 point player and Dubas a superstar gm.

No.
Because he had garbage d in front of him...they did him no favours.
Leafs need to replace half thei D this off season.
- Fakepartofme

Saw this on twitter;


Andersen save % this post season -.897
Gibson save % this post season -.889
Andersen career playoff record - 22-16
Gibson career playoff record - 11-13
Both have exact same career post season save %: .912

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- PatC80

Well he better get back soon. They need him.

Hope everyone is ok.

their next best option was trading down to 8. 30 seconds in.


- Tumbleweed

I (frank)ing love these videos. Really showing ya what went down and what the discussion was.

84 pts not 85.
So he didn’t make the cut.
Is this forum you have to include the leafs fan curve which increase the players talent and points by 25%.
Which makes Marner an 86 point player and Dubas a superstar gm.


- Fakepartofme

I always make that mistake god dammit.

25th and we got tossed in the first round?
BS.
Oh Osuna what did you do
- Fakepartofme

they have an Osuna T-shirt give away coming against Seattle
I assume they scrap it..or they should

fair enough, but he is an improvement on Bernier/Reimer.
- PatC80

How so? cause he wins regular season games, still craps the bed inn the playoffs.

they have an Osuna T-shirt give away coming against Seattle
I assume they scrap it..or they should
- senstroll

I think they have too scrap it now.

Can anyone make the case why the Leafs should choose Dubas over Hunter?

I think most would agree that Hunter's draft record with Toronto has been very good. He is widely regarded as having a keen eye for talent, both in the amateur and professional levels. By some media accounts, he wants to be an NHL GM.

Dubas' skills are reputed to be primarily in analytics.

I just don't see the reasons to choose Dubas for the job over Hunter.

Discuss.

How so? cause he wins regular season games, still craps the bed inn the playoffs.
- bobbyisno1

Which goalie would you rather have?

Playoff numbers;

Andersen - 22W - 16L, .912 Save % and 2.61 GAA
Reimer - 3W - 4L, .921 Save % and 2.82 GAA
Bernier - 2W - 5L. .885 Save % and 3.35 GAA

25th and we got tossed in the first round?
BS.
Oh Osuna what did you do
- Fakepartofme

The best is we didnt even get home ice advantage in the first round. System is so broken

If they are going to use this stupid system they should change the drafting to who goes forward in the playoffs

I (frank)ing love these videos. Really showing ya what went down and what the discussion was.
- Scabeh

That deal with Shero was decent if things went poorly.

Leafs trade their 25th pick to Vancouver for Chris Tanev. Canucks trade their 7th and 25th picks to Buffalo for the 1st pick overall.
- Beatle_john

Beatle John trades his pristine original Butcher Block Cover Beatles album straight up for an original copy of the Saturday Night Fever Soundtrack. The he proceeds to hang a giant photo of Jack Eichel wearing jorts in his living room.

they have an Osuna T-shirt give away coming against Seattle
I assume they scrap it..or they should
- senstroll