winsix
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It definitely does.
Bozak would have got a 2nd. - Unholy_Goalie
Leafs were playoff bound before the deadline. From a business point of view strictly, and having had a season where you scored over 100 points, and knowing that your extremely loyal fans pay upwards of five figures to take a family to a playoff game in the platinum section, did you even consider that throwing in the towel for a couple of maybe picks was not a sane option?
In addition, in 2016-17 (fairly recent history) the DEAD-LAST QUALIFYING TEAM for the stanley cup playoffs was Nashville. They did ok.
So change the topic - please.
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winsix
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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Howard Berger, is that you? Yep - we're all sheep. Bahhhh. Hire Dubas. Bahhhh. Hire Hunter. Bahhhhh. Charge me $12 for an ACC tall boy.
In all you wrote above not once have you provided an alternative suggestion for Leafs GM. Enlighten us - who would make Atomic Wedgie happy? It's also en vogue in these days of "group-think" to be a pill just because and have a contrarian viewpoint when it's not warranted just to get attention. The proverbial straw man argument (credit: Matt Cauz for defining this on 1050 this morning).
Me? I am satisfied that Brendan Shannahan has done his due diligence. I am satisfied that Dubas is a quality candidate based on the fact another NHL team wanted to hire him after receiving permission to speak with him. He is young, analytics and eye test focused, is deemed a progressive manager and strong candidate for the role based on Atomic Freedman and Bob Wedgie's professional hockey analyst opinions on TSN and Sportsnet. I'm satisfied that one of the greatest all-time GM's - Uncle Lou - already knew of Dubas' reputation as heir apparent the day he himself was hired to be GM of the Leafs, and from the sounds of it, has done nothing to make MLSE feel he is not equipped to take over.
How about the fact this brain trust assembled a team that 3 seasons ago was 30th and just surpassed the franchise record for points in the regular season? How about the fact the Marlies were the best team in the AHL this year and are poised to be in the 3rd round shortly, and likely Calder Cup favourite?
Geez. - Deeps27
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Pen15
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Hey, Burksie, it's a dialogue here. Open forum.
I've asked the question: what have Dubas and Hunter done that shows they are the greatest rising stars in NHL managementdom?
Seriously, I'm asking you: what have they done that you think sets them above others? - Atomic Wedgie
This is the second time I’ve seen you bring this up on these boards. Last I responded you ignored my counter points.
Hunter is absolutely a proven judge of talent. Just take a look at some of the names he drafted into the O. Speaks for itself...
Not to mention judging talent at 14 15 is much more difficult than judging talent at 18 19. |
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shack67
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This is the second time I’ve seen you bring this up on these boards. Last I responded you ignored my counter points.
Hunter is absolutely a proven judge of talent. Just take a look at some of the names he drafted into the O. Speaks for itself...
Not to mention judging talent at 14 15 is much more difficult than judging talent at 18 19. - Pen15
If we win a Cup in a seven game final some of these guys will say it’s tainted because it wasn’t a four game sweep. Don’t waste another minute of your time man, it’s hopeless. |
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BorjeFan4Ever
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Location: not the BigSmoke anymore Joined: 10.29.2007
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i think Bozak could have gotten a 2nd, I would hope more tbh.
I dont think he was shopped at all though - senstroll
maybe Lou was fired because he didn't shop Bozak and JvR aggressively enough ....
I smell a conspiracy
someone better call all the other GMs and ask them if they were offered Bozak or JvR...
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Santo_44
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Nylander for Hamilton
1st, 1st, Brown, Lievo for Hamilton
Which one would you do, if any?
Personally I'm excited to see what Dubas or Hunter does with this team. They have 32 million in cap space. 25ish after the signings, salary retaining and bonuses. Without trading Martin.
They have a ton of options.
1.Give an RFA a mammoth one year offer
Example: giving Hanafin an offer of 7.8 million for one year. The leafs give up 1st,2nd 3rd. Extreme example, but you get the point.
2.Trading for a player that is overpaid but still good on a one year deal.
Example:Spezza
3. Taking on a bad contract for a good player
Example:Orpik
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Santo_44
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Evidence was the fact that the Bruins and the Lightning were easily better teams and both got better at the deadline. It was obvious that the Leafs had no real hope of being either team and going any further than the 1st round. And don't give me the "they went 7 against the Bruins" because the Bruins slapped the Leafs around for 7 games. The Leafs were lucky it wasn't over after 5.
Call up Kapanen, Johnsson, Gauthier and every other young guy you can and give them more ice-time. Give them experience. Give them time. They still lose the series but they go home with young guys playing and more draft picks. - Unholy_Goalie
The Leafs were one win away
Boston is out
Either way, they are both in the same boat. And if I was a betting man I would bet TB will be soon enough as well, no cup.
Enough with this bull poop, it is getting old. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Leafsmart
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Location: Fredericton, N.B. Joined: 12.18.2013
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The level of compete in the play-offs highlights two things. The keepers and the movers. If a team doesn't make the bid show, how will management know what personnel changes are required? |
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Damn we hit the summer and it goes right to hell with armchair quarterbacking and trying to pick things apart... well and flogging old dead horses that look more like skeletons at this point too apparently....
Be nice when we get to any actual activity other than what is going on with Lou.
Loooooong time to go before we even can look at what is and see a general shape of a roster for next season.
Relax guys, get some sun and drinks and just kick back and wait for it all to unfold. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Why can't we question Assistant GM Mark Hunter's ability to find good players in the draft?
What the frank has he done to warrant this kind of praise?
The sum total of players he has drafted who have (so far) played in the NHL:
Matthews (Hunter deserves no credit - this was a no-brainer)
Marner (4th overall - my dog could have made this pick)
Dermott (half a season in the NHL, and if you want to play the "what if" game, we probably would have been better off with Konecny, or taken Aho or Carlo).
The rest of the draft picks look like a giant pile of dog crap.
So my wing-scarfing friend, please explain to me what Hunter has done to have me not question his drafting abilities?
Your pal,
Wedgie. - Atomic Wedgie
Why do people keep saying this? Especially people on this site. The vast majority of people on here disagreed with the pick. Most thought it was a bad pick because they wanted Hanifin. |
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Tumbleweed
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Location: avid reader of the daily douche news Joined: 03.14.2014
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Nylander for Hamilton
1st, 1st, Brown, Lievo for Hamilton
Which one would you do, if any?
Personally I'm excited to see what Dubas or Hunter does with this team. They have 32 million in cap space. 25ish after the signings, salary retaining and bonuses. Without trading Martin.
They have a ton of options.
1.Give an RFA a mammoth one year offer
Example: giving Hanafin an offer of 7.8 million for one year. The leafs give up 1st,2nd 3rd. Extreme example, but you get the point.
2.Trading for a player that is overpaid but still good on a one year deal.
Example:Spezza
3. Taking on a bad contract for a good player
Example:Orpik
Ton of options - Santo_44
a one year offer sheet to stone for $7.8M could really (frank) the sens. can't trade him for one year and i think he becomes a ufa.
costs a 1st, 2nd and 3rd. avs are a better fit than us. but i think he's a damn good winger and would look fantastic with matthews. |
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Aetherial
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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Leafs trade their 25th pick to Vancouver for Chris Tanev. Canucks trade their 7th and 25th picks to Buffalo for the 1st pick overall. - Beatle_john
Not happening;
The Leafs will only trade down, or use the pick to get a full-time NHL player.
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gravyface
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Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown Joined: 02.19.2009
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Nylander for Hamilton
1st, 1st, Brown, Lievo for Hamilton
Which one would you do, if any?
Personally I'm excited to see what Dubas or Hunter does with this team. They have 32 million in cap space. 25ish after the signings, salary retaining and bonuses. Without trading Martin.
They have a ton of options.
1.Give an RFA a mammoth one year offer
Example: giving Hanafin an offer of 7.8 million for one year. The leafs give up 1st,2nd 3rd. Extreme example, but you get the point.
2.Trading for a player that is overpaid but still good on a one year deal.
Example:Spezza
3. Taking on a bad contract for a good player
Example:Orpik
Ton of options - Santo_44
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GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Leafsmart
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2-0 Marlies
Johnsson from Liljegren and Engvall - GreatGigInTheSky
Which Marlie did Gallant elbow? |
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Aetherial
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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No guarantees bozak gets anything.
The bruins didn’t dominate every game. About 2.5. - 3.
Leafs had a nice little series that hopefully showed management that they need to replace 3 dmen.
Now had jvr been trade for top a quality 4 dman.....that would have been fine. But lou didn’t have ant partners for that - Fakepartofme
They need a couple new defensemen... AND Matthews and Nylander need to put their big boy pants on next time.
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GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Which Marlie did Gallant elbow? - Leafsmart
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Feeling Glucky?
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Location: Tanktown, ON Joined: 10.08.2008
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a one year offer sheet to stone for $7.8M could really (frank) the sens. can't trade him for one year and i think he becomes a ufa.
costs a 1st, 2nd and 3rd. avs are a better fit than us. but i think he's a damn good winger and would look fantastic with matthews. - Tumbleweed
That’d be pretty smart, assuming we had the big-3 signed first. |
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Steven_Seagull
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Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF Joined: 03.03.2016
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well... its a Tuesday... which like any other time of the week is excellent day to try and make the case why he should be the next GM of the Leafs....
by using guarantees, opinions and soft logic.
so .. yup arguing about absolutely nothing. - BorjeFan4Ever
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Steven_Seagull
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Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF Joined: 03.03.2016
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2-0 Marlies
Johnsson from Liljegren and Engvall - GreatGigInTheSky
WOOOOOOOO |
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Steven_Seagull
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Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF Joined: 03.03.2016
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The Marlies Color Commentator is sooo bad. |
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gravyface
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Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown Joined: 02.19.2009
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The Marlies Color Commentator is sooo bad. - Steven_Seagull
This camera angle is crazy. |
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Steven_Seagull
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Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF Joined: 03.03.2016
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This camera angle is crazy. - gravyface
That’s one way to look at it.
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PatC80
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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i think Bozak could have gotten a 2nd, I would hope more tbh.
I dont think he was shopped at all though - senstroll
Lou tried trading jvr in the offseason for Hamonic. No one can say with 100% certainty that they didn't try to trade jvr, bozie or Leo at the deadline. |
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