It's a depth scoring issue right now, not a goaltending issue.
- j.boyd919

This is what I was saying after Game 2.

While the top line did dominate the Philly series, the Pens still got a nice amount of depth scoring. They're getting zilch right now.

I think Murray has been better than average with moments of "wtf" and to be honest, that's how he's been the two years he's led the Pens to the cup.

This next statement is not directed at you, but hindsight is 20/20. Looking back on Murray's results the last two playoffs overlooks some of his performances. I think he's par for the course right now.

I don't care how good or even great a goalie is, while they can steal you a game or even a series, there are games where they're the ones that need bailing out.
- Rinosaur

I don't know his sv% this year has been pretty pedestrian. I'm sure some more in depth analysis on shot qualities might explain that away, but it wasn't like we were playing lock down hockey the past two cup runs either.

I don't know his sv% this year has been pretty pedestrian. I'm sure some more in depth analysis on shot qualities might explain that away, but it wasn't like we were playing lock down hockey the past two cup runs either.
- Victoro311

Last year was very much live by the sword, die by the sword type hockey. I'm not even looking at his stats though, I'm remember his performances. The incredible saves he made to keep his team in the game.

He did his job last game, let in one stinker, but the Pens are also not getting the scoring they need throughout the lineup which I think is the bigger issue.

Far too many odd man rushes from too much pinching.

Far too many odd man rushes from too much pinching.
- Rinosaur

PINCHYYYYY!!!!!

I don't know his sv% this year has been pretty pedestrian. I'm sure some more in depth analysis on shot qualities might explain that away, but it wasn't like we were playing lock down hockey the past two cup runs either.
- Victoro311

Matt Murray

5v5 HDCA60

16-17 playoffs: 8.22

17-18 regular season: 11.71

Do you guys think the Pens would benefit if Sullivan walks out and puts on his robe and wizard hat?
- jmatchett383

I wish I knew what you meant by this, haha.

I wish I knew what you meant by this, haha.
- BeefCoon

Maybe he is talking about Steve Sullivan?

PINCHYYYYY!!!!!


- chimpira

Eh, you know I run a small academy for lobsters like this one. We stress tough love, daily chores, and the like.

You done making fun of people for having had concussions?
- Feds91Stammer

Sorry, I didnt realize you actually had one. Wasn't making fun of people with concussions, I was calling out your major uptick in immaturity and wondering if brain trauma was the reason.

I wish I knew what you meant by this, haha.
- BeefCoon

He could cast Lvl. 8 Cock of the Infinite

Maybe he is talking about Steve Sullivan?
- chimpira

Steve Sullivan can eat a fat one, rabbit punching coward.

Steve Sullivan can eat a fat one.
- jmatchett383

A fat lobster? Like Pinchy?

Sorry, I didnt realize you actually had one. Wasn't making fun of people with concussions, I was calling out your major uptick in immaturity and wondering if brain trauma was the reason.
- MattStrat

Sorry, I didnt realize you actually had one. Wasn't making fun of people with concussions, I was calling out your major uptick in immaturity and wondering if brain trauma was the reason.
- MattStrat

He's just being recreationally offended. Don't let that (frank)er fool you.

A fat lobster? Like Pinchy?
- chimpira

If you want to reward rabbit punching cowards with tasty lobster, that's on you.

Would have loved to see someone crack a stick across his teeth.

If you want to reward rabbit punching cowards with tasty lobster, that's on you.

Would have loved to see someone crack a stick across his teeth.
- jmatchett383

If you want to reward rabbit punching cowards with tasty lobster, that's on you.

Would have loved to see someone crack a stick across his teeth.
- jmatchett383

It would have been kinda tough. One would need to be sitting down or something. Wasn't Sullivan 5'1"?

He's just being recreationally offended. Don't let that (frank)er fool you.
- j.boyd919

Matt Murray

5v5 HDCA60

16-17 playoffs: 8.22

17-18 regular season: 11.71
- Feds91Stammer

Well...

SULLY!!

I find that is the theme for Murray, somewhat how it used to be with Fleury. Make the tough saves and miracle saves and then let in a house league goal.

I am also noticing a lot these playoffs that when you pound pressure in the other teams zone for an extended period of time, it isn't all that rare that it ends up being an odd man rush the other way.

What really surprised me on the winning goal was that they even made that effort. Hats off to them, but after being hemmed in your own zone for 2 hours, I just assumed they would be gassed and dump and change. Where did they find that energy!

Some WOWY for Malkin and Kessel (all are between 500 and 600 minutes so similar samples)

Togther: CF%51.5 FF%50.7 SC%50.5 HDSC%44 Shot%51 Goal%46.4

Malkin without Kessel: CF%53.7 FF%54.6 SC%54 HDSC%55 Shot%56.4 Goal%57.7

Kessel without Malkin: CF%49.1 FF%51 SC%51.4 HDSC%50.2 Shot%49.9 Goal%49.2

There's a lot of evidence there that says they're better off on separate lines despite some of the pretty goals they've connected on.

SULLY!!
- chimpira

Talk about karma

Sorry, I didnt realize you actually had one. Wasn't making fun of people with concussions, I was calling out your major uptick in immaturity and wondering if brain trauma was the reason.
- MattStrat

Feds can talk good hockey or troll, depends on his mood. He probably just finds it more fun to troll after 2 losses with controversial Wilson hits.

Some WOWY for Malkin and Kessel (all are between 500 and 600 minutes so similar samples)

Togther: CF%51.5 FF%50.7 SC%50.5 HDSC%44 Shot%51 Goal%46.4

Malkin without Kessel: CF%53.7 FF%54.6 SC%54 HDSC%55 Shot%56.4 Goal%57.7

Kessel without Malkin: CF%49.1 FF%51 SC%51.4 HDSC%50.2 Shot%49.9 Goal%49.2

There's a lot of evidence there that says they're better off on separate lines despite some of the pretty goals they've connected on.
- Tojo.

Huh. Crazy that Kessel's been dragging down Malkin in his most productive season to date.