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mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Apr 29 @ 12:26 PM ET
What's up?
- deadpoulet

You?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Apr 29 @ 12:29 PM ET
Montreal being what it is, a coach is expected to be able to communicate with fans in their own language ... they are the ones spending money and buying tickets after all. It makes sense from a business standpoint ($$$) but not necessarily from a purely hockey one.

It definitively puts us at a disadvantage in that regard as it limits the pool of available candidates ... as a francophone (bilingual), I personally don't give a poop what language a guy speaks but unfortunately not all people think the same way.

Oh well ... it is what it is.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Apr 29 @ 12:30 PM ET
6’ and 195, tiny
- Symba007


marner sized
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Apr 29 @ 12:33 PM ET
Montreal being what it is, a coach is expected to be able to communicate with fans in their own language ... they are the ones spending money and buying tickets after all. It makes sense from a business standpoint ($$$) but not necessarily from a purely hockey one.

It definitively puts us at a disadvantage in that regard as it limits the pool of available candidates ... as a francophone (bilingual), I personally don't give a poop what language a guy speaks but unfortunately not all people think the same way.

Oh well ... it is what it is.

- Aetherial


What it is?
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Apr 29 @ 12:35 PM ET
You?
- mr.peanut


Not much. Enjoying my coffee with a huge 3rd overall pick!
Habsolute009
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 12.09.2010

Apr 29 @ 12:41 PM ET
... I'm old enough to understand the joke.

As for Gallant, I totally agree but unfortunately Montreal being what it is, a coach is expected to be able to communicate with fans in their own language ... they are the ones spending money and buying tickets after all. It makes sense from a business standpoint ($$$) but not necessarily from a purely hockey one.

It definitively puts us at a disadvantage in that regard as it limits the pool of available candidates ... as a francophone (bilingual), I personally don't give a poop what language a guy speaks but unfortunately not all people think the same way.

Oh well ... it is what it is.

- Garfield512


I'm glad someone gets that reference haha. He looks like him in my opinion. I've now just been referring to him as such.

On topic. I don't understand this mentality. The best soccer teams in the world(Bayern, Real, Barcelona etc) don't give a poop if the guy speaks their language. They literally go out and try to hire the best man for the job they can find. This insistence that they speak French is pointless. You're just hurting your chances of success on every front. The Drouin for Segachev is a great example from a player stand point. Drouin is straight up trash, French or not.

What language a guy speaks is irrelevant and agree with you 100%. The only thing that matters is winning.
mr.peanut
Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC
Joined: 12.18.2011

Apr 29 @ 12:53 PM ET
Not much. Enjoying my coffee with a huge 3rd overall pick!
- deadpoulet

Hope it works out as well as the scabs last 3rd overall pick.

Maybe they can draft a winger to play defense

Hihihihihihihihihihi
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Apr 29 @ 1:01 PM ET
Hope it works out as well as the scabs last 3rd overall pick.

Maybe they can draft a winger to play defense

Hihihihihihihihihihi

- mr.peanut


That was very original.

May I date you now?
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Apr 29 @ 2:03 PM ET


Jesus Christ.
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Apr 29 @ 4:53 PM ET
I'm glad someone gets that reference haha. He looks like him in my opinion. I've now just been referring to him as such.

On topic. I don't understand this mentality. The best soccer teams in the world(Bayern, Real, Barcelona etc) don't give a poop if the guy speaks their language. They literally go out and try to hire the best man for the job they can find. This insistence that they speak French is pointless. You're just hurting your chances of success on every front. The Drouin for Segachev is a great example from a player stand point. Drouin is straight up trash, French or not.

What language a guy speaks is irrelevant and agree with you 100%. The only thing that matters is winning.

- Habsolute009


I feel the media and the female doging they would do is the real pain in the ass in trying to acquire the best coach available even if he is not french.
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Apr 29 @ 4:54 PM ET
So who are we better off drafting Svechnikov or Zadina? Sounds like Zadina is Drouin 2.0 based on the scouting report and plays LW as well which we hardly need more of.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Apr 29 @ 4:56 PM ET
I'm glad someone gets that reference haha. He looks like him in my opinion. I've now just been referring to him as such.

On topic. I don't understand this mentality. The best soccer teams in the world(Bayern, Real, Barcelona etc) don't give a poop if the guy speaks their language. They literally go out and try to hire the best man for the job they can find. This insistence that they speak French is pointless. You're just hurting your chances of success on every front. The Drouin for Segachev is a great example from a player stand point. Drouin is straight up trash, French or not.

What language a guy speaks is irrelevant and agree with you 100%. The only thing that matters is winning.

- Habsolute009



I agree but the reality is that Montreal being what it is, a coach is expected to be able to communicate with fans in their own language ... they are the ones spending money and buying tickets after all. It makes sense from a business standpoint ($$$) but not necessarily from a purely hockey one.

It definitively puts us at a disadvantage in that regard as it limits the pool of available candidates ... as a francophone (bilingual), I personally don't give a poop what language a guy speaks but unfortunately not all people think the same way.

Oh well ... it is what it is.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Apr 29 @ 5:33 PM ET
This may shock some of you guys but I don't care anymore. Montreal being what it is, a coach is expected to be able to communicate with fans in their own language ... they are the ones spending money and buying tickets after all. It makes sense from a business standpoint ($$$) but not necessarily from a purely hockey one.

It definitively puts us at a disadvantage in that regard as it limits the pool of available candidates ... as a francophone (bilingual), I personally don't give a poop what language a guy speaks but unfortunately not all people think the same way.

Oh well ... it is what it is.

I hope everyone in here will understand what I mean, as this might be something new to you.
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Apr 29 @ 6:51 PM ET
This may shock some of you guys but I don't care anymore. Montreal being what it is, a coach is expected to be able to communicate with fans in their own language ... they are the ones spending money and buying tickets after all. It makes sense from a business standpoint ($$$) but not necessarily from a purely hockey one.

It definitively puts us at a disadvantage in that regard as it limits the pool of available candidates ... as a francophone (bilingual), I personally don't give a poop what language a guy speaks but unfortunately not all people think the same way.

Oh well ... it is what it is.

I hope everyone in here will understand what I mean, as this might be something new to you.

- deadpoulet



Let's repeat this poor defense of all French staff one more time for good measure. By that logic no sports team should have any foreign players/staff who aren't fluent in english or whaever the native language is because they can't speak it and thus can't talk to the fans? I can think of several examples of teams around the league who would be hurt by adhering to it and several past players on montreal who werent fluent in english, let alone french. Saying it makes sense from a business standpoint is non sense because I have a hard time believing a winning product with an English coach wouldn't financially trump the current mess we have right now with our brilliant francophone management. How often does the coach talk to fans directly? 99.9% of the time it's to reporters saying some cliche rhetoric anyway. As for the language barrier that's what translators and sub titles are for. Is this really a significant portion of the Montreal fan base that cares that much about having a French coach? I have a hard time believing it is.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Apr 29 @ 6:56 PM ET
I agree but the reality is that Montreal being what it is, a coach is expected to be able to communicate with fans in their own language ... they are the ones spending money and buying tickets after all. It makes sense from a business standpoint ($$$) but not necessarily from a purely hockey one.

It definitively puts us at a disadvantage in that regard as it limits the pool of available candidates ... as a francophone (bilingual), I personally don't give a poop what language a guy speaks but unfortunately not all people think the same way.

Oh well ... it is what it is.

- dt99999

By that logic no sports team should have any foreign players/staff who aren't fluent in english or whaever the native language is because they can't speak it and thus can't talk to the fans? I can think of several examples of teams around the league who would be hurt by adhering to it and several past players on montreal who werent fluent in english, let alone french. Saying it makes sense from a business standpoint is non sense because I have a hard time believing a winning product with an English coach wouldn't financially trump the current mess we have right now with our brilliant francophone management. How often does the coach talk to fans directly? 99.9% of the time it's to reporters saying some cliche rhetoric anyway. As for the language barrier that's what translators and sub titles are for. Is this really a significant portion of the Montreal fan base that cares that much about having a French coach? I have a hard time believing it is.
Habsolute009
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 12.09.2010

Apr 29 @ 7:02 PM ET
So who are we better off drafting Svechnikov or Zadina? Sounds like Zadina is Drouin 2.0 based on the scouting report and plays LW as well which we hardly need more of.
- apex123


Between those two its hands down svechnikov. But he wont be available at number 3. Hes the consensus #2 in the draft. I'm gonna assume bergevin is going to continue being an dolt and take Tkachuk out of college over zadina. I was really hoping for second overall to grab svechnikov. No way hes passed over by Carolina.

Edit: Either way its irrelevant because we dont have a number one centremen and according to Bergevin those guys aren't available....even though other teams have traded for and picked one up in an expansion draft.
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Apr 29 @ 7:27 PM ET
Between those two its hands down svechnikov. But he wont be available at number 3. Hes the consensus #2 in the draft. I'm gonna assume bergevin is going to continue being an dolt and take Tkachuk out of college over zadina. I was really hoping for second overall to grab svechnikov. No way hes passed over by Carolina.

Edit: Either way its irrelevant because we dont have a number one centremen and according to Bergevin those guys aren't available....even though other teams have traded for and picked one up in an expansion draft.

- Habsolute009


Well then we 're (frank)ed. If we had a good GM the play would be to take Zadina and try to leverage him or Pacioretty (whoever has more value) and another piece into the elusive first line center. Bergevin won't be pulling off any Louis Eriksson for Tyler Seguin though.
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Apr 29 @ 7:55 PM ET
Just saw that the most popular buyout inquiry on capfriendly is Jake Gardiner.

That's (frank)ing funny.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Apr 29 @ 8:31 PM ET
Just saw that the most popular buyout inquiry on capfriendly is Jake Gardiner.

That's (frank)ing funny.

- BashCH

It should really be Carey Price
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Apr 29 @ 8:49 PM ET
It should really be Carey Price
- dt99999


Can't argue with that. Bergevin really is a (frank)ing tool...
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Apr 29 @ 8:54 PM ET
Can't argue with that. Bergevin really is a (frank)ing tool...
- BashCH

Oh well ... it is what it is.
jugkope
Location: Possibly at the Zoo
Joined: 07.19.2009

Apr 29 @ 8:55 PM ET
Between those two its hands down svechnikov. But he wont be available at number 3. Hes the consensus #2 in the draft. I'm gonna assume bergevin is going to continue being an dolt and take Tkachuk out of college over zadina. I was really hoping for second overall to grab svechnikov. No way hes passed over by Carolina.

Edit: Either way its irrelevant because we dont have a number one centremen and according to Bergevin those guys aren't available....even though other teams have traded for and picked one up in an expansion draft.

- Habsolute009


But the last Russian the Canes drafted was in 2001! And they have Martin Necas, Zadina's Czech linemate! Surely it is meant to be!
Habsolute009
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 12.09.2010

Apr 29 @ 10:50 PM ET
Subban's not good enough for Bergevin but he sure is good enough for Nashville. Logged 40 minutes already. 4 more then next closest player in the game...

Well done Bergevin.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK
Joined: 08.31.2014

Apr 29 @ 10:56 PM ET
Subban's not good enough for Bergevin but he sure is good enough for Nashville. Logged 40 minutes already. 4 more then next closest player in the game...

Well done Bergevin.

- Habsolute009


Yeah, but he likely had a bad attitude for at least 10 of those minutes and a lack of character for 5 other minutes, so win for MB.
Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm a figment of your imagination.
Joined: 11.09.2006

Apr 29 @ 11:00 PM ET
This may shock some of you guys but I don't care anymore. Montreal being what it is, a coach is expected to be able to communicate with fans in their own language ... they are the ones spending money and buying tickets after all. It makes sense from a business standpoint ($$$) but not necessarily from a purely hockey one.

It definitively puts us at a disadvantage in that regard as it limits the pool of available candidates ... as a francophone (bilingual), I personally don't give a poop what language a guy speaks but unfortunately not all people think the same way.

Oh well ... it is what it is.

I hope everyone in here will understand what I mean, as this might be something new to you.

- deadpoulet



There's an echo on this board ... it is what it is don't you think?
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