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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 27 @ 9:16 AM ET
It may be dumb, as you put it, but he still outscored the genius by quite a bit.

Perhaps Allen will actually be good.

- kingcong39


Blake Bortles had the highest and so did Brandon Weeden

Just saying

But that test is not going to tell me if he's going to be good or not it just sucks that he's going to need a lot of work
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 27 @ 9:16 AM ET
I'm pretty chill right now yesterday I was so pissed yesterday But my friends Calmed me down

I'm just questioning why we took on a project when we don't have anybody to groom that "project"

When Rosen is already Pro ready..

- gerbe75pts

it's simple

THEY LIKED HIM BETTER


good god
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 27 @ 9:17 AM ET
For you sir, as I saw this last night.

Top Wonderlic scores from the NFL draft combine:

Josh Allen 37
Josh Rosen 29

If Rosen is a genius, what does that make Allen?

- kingcong39

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 27 @ 9:18 AM ET
I trust the person who watched every single one of his games at Wyoming over you, as you did not watch all of his game the past 2 years.
- kingcong39


I’m not trying to convince u to trust me
Just giving my opinion
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 27 @ 9:18 AM ET
Blake Bortles had the highest and so did Brandon Weeden

Just saying

But that test is not going to tell me if he's going to be good or not it just sucks that he's going to need a lot of work

- gerbe75pts


It's another indicator that is used, and nothing more, but it also shows that he is not some buffoon.
sabreswarpath
Joined: 10.09.2008

Apr 27 @ 9:18 AM ET
1. wyoming did not run an offense with dump offs

2. jim kelly had a similar completion % in college

3. the wr's had many drops and issues running the wrong routes at wyoming, documented

4. the kid can make all the pro throws

I think it's time everyone takes a step back


they did so much research on these qb's and at the end, they did not want to pay the price to get darnold or mayfield and wanted allen over rosen


it's that simple

- homiedclown


Forgetting he was by perfect NFL size, strength, and the arm is best in years.

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 27 @ 9:19 AM ET
Uh oh, story's changin
- Hatboro_Swords


Guess u were wrong about us taking Rosen
Great job there 3er

Once again, u don’t know squat
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 27 @ 9:19 AM ET
it's simple

THEY LIKED HIM BETTER


good god

- homiedclown


I understand that homie but even the fans knew when a pick was bad and you should have picked someone else
Whitner over Ngata and Maybin over Orakpo .CJ Spiller

You just feel it with this one

Hopefully I'm wrong
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 27 @ 9:19 AM ET
Pretty sure half the bills fan were "done" but it's your team and you have to live with it
- gerbe75pts


I bet training camp sees an all-time high attendance. But good guess.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 27 @ 9:20 AM ET
This, as they say.

Homie, it's like you watched that video I posted as the video creator pointed out all the things you did, and much more.

The Wyoming WR's were hardly ever open, and definitely never like the WR's and how often they were open for Baker in that offense.

- kingcong39

I read about 20 scouting reports after we picked allen

and played a few video assessments

I trust the process


that is who they wanted over Rosen
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 27 @ 9:20 AM ET
I understand that homie but even the fans knew when a pick was bad and you should have picked someone else
Whitner over Ngata and Maybin over Orakpo .CJ Spiller

You just feel it with this one

Hopefully I'm wrong

- gerbe75pts


This is so asinine.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Apr 27 @ 9:20 AM ET
You said, and I quote "If the Bills pick Josh Allen, I'm done"

Define "done"

- TheSabresTaco

let me quote macauly culkin here "Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh"



gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
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Apr 27 @ 9:20 AM ET
It's another indicator that is used, and nothing more, but it also shows that he is not some buffoon.
- kingcong39


True but some of the greats did really bad on that test
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 27 @ 9:20 AM ET
he had walk on cuts at wr vs the other team having pro prospects at wr

I know it's a hard pill to swallow but it's kind of like comparing the wr's at barker high school to the wr's at UB


big gap

- homiedclown


His competition was also weak
Read the article
https://www.sbnation.com/...tats-analysis-comparisons
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

Apr 27 @ 9:21 AM ET
This is so asinine.
- TheSabresTaco

i know of all the sabres bad picks in the past..
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 27 @ 9:21 AM ET
I understand that homie but even the fans knew when a pick was bad and you should have picked someone else
Whitner over Ngata and Maybin over Orakpo .CJ Spiller

You just feel it with this one

Hopefully I'm wrong

- gerbe75pts


The Texans fans were strongly against the JJ Watt pick. It goes both ways.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 27 @ 9:21 AM ET
This is so asinine.
- TheSabresTaco


It really isn't..

IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Apr 27 @ 9:21 AM ET
he had walk on cuts at wr vs the other team having pro prospects at wr

I know it's a hard pill to swallow but it's kind of like comparing the wr's at barker high school to the wr's at UB


big gap

- homiedclown


You really need to read, really read, not glance at that article.
You are spouting off the rhetoric around him that simply isn’t true ... over his career.
Yes, 2017 WR’s were below average, 2016 had two future NFLers...and he played against below average D’s
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
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Apr 27 @ 9:22 AM ET
The Texans fans were strongly against the JJ Watt pick. It goes both ways.
- TheSabresTaco


Hopefully it works out I will cheer him on..

kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 27 @ 9:23 AM ET
You really need to read, really read, not glance at that article.
You are spouting off the rhetoric around him that simply isn’t true ... over his career.
Yes, 2017 WR’s were below average, 2016 had two future NFLers...and he played against below average D’s

- IonSabres


Nobody is going to change your opinion, or the others who think Allen is a bum and will be a bum, but all I and others are trying to point out is that opinion is far from a certainty.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 27 @ 9:23 AM ET
he had walk on cuts at wr vs the other team having pro prospects at wr

I know it's a hard pill to swallow but it's kind of like comparing the wr's at barker high school to the wr's at UB


big gap

- homiedclown


I know two of them farmer boys. Big dopes.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 27 @ 9:24 AM ET
The Texans fans were strongly against the JJ Watt pick. It goes both ways.
- TheSabresTaco


And if Allen turns out to be great,
then I’ll be happy to be proven wrong

Idk why my doubts bothers you (& others) so much?

It’s not like i came to this conclusion without watching him play

I think he will be a bust
AGAIN...
i hope I’m wrong
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Apr 27 @ 9:24 AM ET
Forgetting he was by perfect NFL size, strength, and the arm is best in years.


- sabreswarpath


Strong arm...good
He completed 1, 1 pass 40+ yards...1.
Because he is generally inaccurate.


Hey, we all want for him to succeed, but making excuses for bad results on the leading indicators is dubious at best.
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Apr 27 @ 9:25 AM ET
Guess u were wrong about us taking Rosen
Great job there 3er

Once again, u don’t know squat

- jdfitz77

I took the L.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 27 @ 9:28 AM ET
And if Allen turns out to be great,
then I’ll be happy to be proven wrong

Idk why my doubts bothers you (& others) so much?

It’s not like i came to this conclusion without watching him play

I think he will be a bust
AGAIN...
i hope I’m wrong

- jdfitz77


I'm not saying he will be great. I'm saying to give him a (frank)ing chance. Saying "he will suck" is an opinion based on past performances on a different team running a different system. Look at what systems can do for players.
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