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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 26 @ 1:04 PM ET
Leafs have too many guys that need the refs whistles to protect them.

Possible shoulder surgery for Matthews? No strength on face-offs or his shots.

Poor Morgan, 120 km/h clapper to the face and the mole survives.

- Dirty_Irbe_Pads


12 km/h more like it.
Dirty_Irbe_Pads
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pitter Patter
Joined: 07.17.2012

Apr 26 @ 1:05 PM ET
Leafs are going to add James Neal and Paul Stastny and we'll all cry cheer.
- AdamFrench


Pretty sure I heard it was Spezza too
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 26 @ 1:06 PM ET
Pretty sure I heard it was Spezza too
- Dirty_Irbe_Pads


ouch
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Apr 26 @ 1:06 PM ET
We've been in need of a true number one whipping boy (1WB) for a couple years now. The job got done by committee, partly by Gardiner but also with strong contributions from Polak, JVR and Bozak. But with the latter two likely lost to free agency I think we'd really regret dealing a guy who's shown promise in the past but is really just now taking that next step to becoming a legit 1WB. Deal him now and you're just going to have to go looking for another one.
- BlueBallz


it will be Nylander... Polak's still around.

can't criticize Marner, Matthews (even though he deserves some), Rielly, Andersen to a degree.

should be able to scapegoat guys like Hyman and Brown

I think Nylander and Polak are good candidates.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Apr 26 @ 1:06 PM ET
Leafs are going to add James Neal and Paul Stastny and we'll all cry cheer.
- AdamFrench

Gud pros.

I don't care as long as I don't see #51 on the ice for the Leafs. Been saying this for 5 years, he will never learn to play defence.

Remember the line about Inge Hammarström by Ballard? It stands true about Gardiner. Piece of bonehead poop.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Apr 26 @ 1:09 PM ET
genuinely curious... who do you believe the Leafs could get for Marner?
- BorjeFan4Ever


Even though I would be bummed ... Manson for Marner ... Helps both teams.

RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Apr 26 @ 1:11 PM ET
Even though I would be bummed ... Manson for Marner ... Helps both teams.


- dozerD10

On what drug infested planet would this even be close to a reasonable trade?
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Apr 26 @ 1:11 PM ET
Even though I would be bummed ... Manson for Marner ... Helps both teams.


- dozerD10


BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Apr 26 @ 1:11 PM ET
I would keep Marner over Nylander. But if you moved Marner I'd expect a top pairing RHD coming back in the trade. Maybe Trouba still wants out of Winnipeg ? Something around Marner for Trouba and possibly Winnipeg adds on their end. Living in the GTA I still see more Leaf games then any other team. The Leafs have fantastic forward depth but until they get better on the backend it wont mean jack.
- Pegullaville


Question was rhetorical... no way the Leafs trade Marner. He's going to be "heart" going forward.

I personally would consider moving Nylander for the "right D-man"... but not someone old that's for sure.
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

Apr 26 @ 1:12 PM ET
Even though I would be bummed ... Manson for Marner ... Helps both teams.


- dozerD10


Enjoy your ban
hags11
Season Ticket Holder
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Apr 26 @ 1:12 PM ET
I would only move Nylander if it’s for a young top pairing rhd... which isn’t really something you see on this market.

Not a chance Marner gets moved.

- Feeling Glucky?


How about this:

Kapanen & Toronto's first round pick this year to the Flames for Brodie and Kylington.

Calgary needs wingers & draft picks - Leafs need defense and defense.

Leafs get a top pairing RHD that skates like the wind (Brodie) at a very reasonable contract hit (3.65 mil or something like that) and at the right age (27) to help lead the rest of their defensive youth. Plus they get 1 of the Flames top defensive prospects (21 Years old) in Kylington who has size and also skates like the wind. He is a little rough around the edges but has raw talent that needs to be groomed. He definitely has top pairing potential.

Flames get a skilled winger to play on the first line - who is getting buried in Toronto because of their forward depth + the 1st round pick this year - they currently do not have one.

Thoughts?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Apr 26 @ 1:12 PM ET
Even though I would be bummed ... Manson for Marner ... Helps both teams.


- dozerD10

That's a weird way of spelling Lindholm.
BestRapperAlive
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: OEL is one of the greatest players of his generation - James Tanner
Joined: 06.21.2012

Apr 26 @ 1:14 PM ET
it will be Nylander... Polak's still around.

can't criticize Marner, Matthews (even though he deserves some), Rielly, Andersen to a degree.

should be able to scapegoat guys like Hyman and Brown

I think Nylander and Polak are good candidates.

- BorjeFan4Ever


some people are blaming babcock, can we do that?
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Apr 26 @ 1:15 PM ET
Enjoy your ban
- BestRapperAlive



Yeah who would want a gifted RHD stud who provides offence and well as a hammer on the backend....
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Apr 26 @ 1:15 PM ET
That's a weird way of spelling Lindholm and Manson.
- AdamFrench


Fixed!
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Apr 26 @ 1:16 PM ET
The nhl should do what they did back in the 30's that lasted for several decades to help save the Canadiens from folding.
Create a special draft.
The leafs can draft any two Ontario players in a side draft. Prior to the nhl draft.

- Fakepartofme



Hey.. .you're not supposed to bring this up. Canadien's fans get very upset once they realize its true (took place in the early 60s as well) - regional protection.

I think its a great idea... between that and Robidas/Lupul/Horton Island it will essentially mean that the Leafs don't have a CAP.



serious note: last time I brought up the "special draft thingy" I was suspended a "not to be named" HockeyBuzz ref - who just happened to be Habs fan
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Apr 26 @ 1:16 PM ET
Tanev.

Offers?
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Apr 26 @ 1:17 PM ET
Hey.. .you're not supposed to bring this up. Canadien's fans get very upset once they realize its true (took place in the early 60s as well) - regional protection.

I think its a great idea... between that and Robidas/Lupul/Horton Island it will essentially mean that the Leafs don't have a CAP.



serious note: last time I brought up the "special draft thingy" I was suspended a "not to be named" HockeyBuzz ref - who just happened to be Habs fan

- BorjeFan4Ever


i am suspicious of the absence of refs/mods lately.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Apr 26 @ 1:17 PM ET
Tanev.

Offers?

- Beatle_john

Two 2nds and a 2 mil donation to the Vancouver hospital of his choice.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Apr 26 @ 1:17 PM ET
That's a weird way of spelling Lindholm.
- AdamFrench


You may want to like actually watch Josh play before making that comment. Marner is talented all, but he's not all that as yet. And RHD stud D signed to great contracts aren't just falling off trees.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 26 @ 1:17 PM ET
Tanev.

Offers?

- Beatle_john


Bozak and a 7th?
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Apr 26 @ 1:18 PM ET
How about this:

Kapanen & Toronto's first round pick this year to the Flames for Brodie and Kylington.

Calgary needs wingers & draft picks - Leafs need defense and defense.

Leafs get a top pairing RHD that skates like the wind (Brodie) at a very reasonable contract hit (3.65 mil or something like that) and at the right age (27) to help lead the rest of their defensive youth. Plus they get 1 of the Flames top defensive prospects (21 Years old) in Kylington who has size and also skates like the wind. He is a little rough around the edges but has raw talent that needs to be groomed. He definitely has top pairing potential.

Flames get a skilled winger to play on the first line - who is getting buried in Toronto because of their forward depth + the 1st round pick this year - they currently do not have one.

Thoughts?

- hags11


Leafs are losing depth at forward this year. I suspect they will hold onto Kapanen. They also don't really want to trade first round picks so that's a no. Nice try though.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Apr 26 @ 1:18 PM ET
some people are blaming babcock, can we do that?
- BestRapperAlive


I don't know... seriously, I think Bablord may have been "showing" Lou and Shanny exactly what his defense was capable of...

what do they want to blame Babcock for... not playing Rielly and Hainsey for 40minutes a game?
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Apr 26 @ 1:18 PM ET
Yeah who would want a gifted RHD stud who provides offence and well as a hammer on the backend....
- dozerD10


Guys, Look at the screen name.... It's Bruce trolling us!



Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Apr 26 @ 1:18 PM ET
https://ca.gofundme.com/buyout-jake-gardiner

It's now up to 190.
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