So they didn't think Wentz or Watson were franchise QB's and they went with Mayfield
- nastyflyergirl

2 words: Cleveland Browns

Nothing more needs to be said.

I believe it's a combo of coaching and personnel, not one or the other. I'm pretty sure, as MB pointed out, that Lappy isn't telling guys, "hey when you get the puck on your stick instead of clearing it out of the zone, just flub it weakly to an opponent"

Nor is Lappy going to make timely, quality saves that is the backbone of any good PK.

OTOH, a different voice is needed and as I stated before, I'd rather see a guy like Knoblauch just oversee all special teams in 18-19.
- BiggE

They need a new voice, and better tactical deployment. Sitting back in a 4 man box not pressuring the puck is awful. And that is all Laperriere does. Everyone stated that Laperriere had to go, now he's being brought back and people are trying to rationalize it. It's absurd.

I'd be really happy if they added a better veteran Dman. I would love to see if they could package Gudas with some combo of picks/prospects and a quality, top 4 guy, better than AMac, to slide into the top pair with Provorov. I think they have all the pieces needed to fill the 3-7 spots in the D group, it's finding a good #2 that would really give them a boost.
- BiggE

Zadorov? Trying to think of who they could get for a mid-sized package that fits what you described.

2 words: Cleveland Browns

Nothing more needs to be said.
- BiggE

I think they had their mind up way before the draft that they wanted Mayfield out of the QBs. They weren't going to risk him still being there at #4, especially with pretty much knowing Jets were also going to pick a QB. Giants were really the question as far as which way they'd go, I think if they didn't pick Barkley, Browns would have grabbed him at #4.

It always depends on the cost, that goes without saying. Sanheim may well be that guy, but Dmen often don't reach their full potential until their mid 20s and I really don't want to wait 2 or 3 seasons to have another top pair guy. Go get a guy if the cost isn't too prohibitive and if Sanheim ends up being a top pair guy one day, or Myers or anyone else does, even better. There is nothing wrong with having 3 or 4 guys that can play on a top pair.
- BiggE

No it isn't but it's pretty safe to say that a #2 NHL defenseman is going to come at a hefty price. With the defense prospects they have, I don't see Hextall paying that price not to mention how rare players like that are actually made available. It's still going to be a couple of years. The Flyers can and should be a competitive playoff team before then, but to hopefully get to that top team status, a couple more years.

They need a new voice, and better tactical deployment. Sitting back in a 4 man box not pressuring the puck is awful. And that is all Laperriere does. Everyone stated that Laperriere had to go, now he's being brought back and people are trying to rationalize it. It's absurd.
- PLindbergh31

The deployment seems fine when they have the puck on their stick and then fail to clear it.

I would also like to see a more aggressive pursuit, and some guys with the legs to play that way (which they don't have in abundance ATM.)

You are really are a funny person. No one here is rationalizing anything. So you can just slow your troll roll and lets talk puck without all the nonsense.

Who am I kidding? That will never happen.

depends-

how old is that player, what is the cap hit and the remaining term on their contract. If that all fits the long term plan or makes them a contender now then yes, do it.

I think we are saying the same thing
- wcorvette

Say JT goes to Toronto, would you trade Sanheim for the rights to Nylander or Marner?

It always depends on the cost, that goes without saying. Sanheim may well be that guy, but Dmen often don't reach their full potential until their mid 20s and I really don't want to wait 2 or 3 seasons to have another top pair guy. Go get a guy if the cost isn't too prohibitive and if Sanheim ends up being a top pair guy one day, or Myers or anyone else does, even better. There is nothing wrong with having 3 or 4 guys that can play on a top pair.
- BiggE

I like the idea at the right price, that and the current D and prospects, I see the Flyers with the D talent similar to the Preds

Cmon, we all know that he’s giving Filppula 5 years and 50 million, trading Simmonds for a 7th round pick, extending Hakstol for 20 more years and rolling with Elliott and Neuvirth for another half decade so that Hart can properly marinate.

This your first day around here?

Flyersbuzz, the house that panic and massive overreaction built!
- BiggE

do people not completely listen to what is said? they would consider Filppula back but not pre-july 1 which TO ME is code for we will look to upgrade but have Filppula to fall back on if nothing shakes out. Hextall said I know more about the coach and the coach more about the players....not hey I know more than you. I agree with him. he knows what goes on behind the scenes. we don't. now that doesn't mean he or Hakstol are always right, they do make mistakes. Giroux didn't blame the fans for the loss, he simply said the boos can sometimes make them press.

Sometimes i really have to shake my head at people.

Cmon, we all know that he’s giving Filppula 5 years and 50 million, trading Simmonds for a 7th round pick, extending Hakstol for 20 more years and rolling with Elliott and Neuvirth for another half decade so that Hart can properly marinate.

This your first day around here?

Flyersbuzz, the house that panic and massive overreaction built!
- BiggE

do people not completely listen to what is said? they would consider Filppula back but not pre-july 1 which TO ME is code for we will look to upgrade but have Filppula to fall back on if nothing shakes out. Hextall said I know more about the coach and the coach more about the players....not hey I know more than you. I agree with him. he knows what goes on behind the scenes. we don't. now that doesn't mean he or Hakstol are always right, they do make mistakes. Giroux didn't blame the fans for the loss, he simply said the boos can sometimes make them press.

Sometimes i really have to shake my head at people.

They need a new voice, and better tactical deployment. Sitting back in a 4 man box not pressuring the puck is awful. And that is all Laperriere does. Everyone stated that Laperriere had to go, now he's being brought back and people are trying to rationalize it. It's absurd.
- PLindbergh31

Everyone said Lappy should not be the guy running the PK, I don't think they were nearly as concerned with whether he was fired altogether. Hey, I agree with you that he shouldn't be the guy that runs the PK, but we don't know for sure if he will be when next season starts.

If he is though, and they upgrade the personnel that he has to work with then they have no excuses. Either the PK improves dramatically or Lappy has to go. [

I do find it interesting that during the 13-14 season, he coached the PK to a 84.8% which was 7th in the league. So, did he forget how to coach or is it more due to the personnel? That 13-14 had Coots, a younger Matt Read who had 4 shorties, Giroux and Adam Hall who was fantastic on faceoffs and also scored 2 shorties. On D, you had a top PK pair of Coburn and Timonen who were also very good at killing penalties.

Again, I think a new voice calling the shots would make sense, but to put it all on Lappy is also just as absurd.

Zadorov? Trying to think of who they could get for a mid-sized package that fits what you described.
- jmatchett383

Yeah, I haven't really looked over rosters and guys who may be on expiring contracts and whatnot yet to have a real idea. I was just throwing it out there.

do people not completely listen to what is said? they would consider Filppula back but not pre-july 1 which TO ME is code for we will look to upgrade but have Filppula to fall back on if nothing shakes out. Hextall said I know more about the coach and the coach more about the players....not hey I know more than you. I agree with him. he knows what goes on behind the scenes. we don't. now that doesn't mean he or Hakstol are always right, they do make mistakes. Giroux didn't blame the fans for the loss, he simply said the boos can sometimes make them press.

Sometimes i really have to shake my head at people.
- nastyflyergirl

You and I both are going to get whiplash.

Say JT goes to Toronto, would you trade Sanheim for the rights to Nylander or Marner?
- ajw12

wow, tough one and probably yes...

but would have to have a different trade for another D man or grab another top prospect from the draft

wow, tough one and probably yes...

but would have to have a different trade for another D man or grab another top prospect from the draft
- wcorvette

Flat out no for me.

Flat out no for me.
- MJL

I like Sanheim a lot but those O talents are hard to ignore. I do think to do this Myers would have to be on track to be the D they thought he could be.

Teams/players I would like Hexy to kick tires on / target with all the ammunition we have OR even sign FA:

OTT: Hoffman, Mark Stone

TOR: JVR (FA; if we move Simmer). Marner or Nylander* (*if they go all-in for JT).

ARZ: Domi

CGY: Monahan

CHI: Saad, Crawford

EDM: 9th overall pick
I had a few more but I’m blanking.

Say JT goes to Toronto, would you trade Sanheim for the rights to Nylander or Marner?
- ajw12

In a heart beat....You have to give to get....Marner and Nylander are 1rst line talents. they are close to that already. I think TO would want more then that.

Teams/players I would like Hexy to kick tires on / target with all the ammunition we have OR even sign FA:

OTT: Hoffman, Mark Stone

TOR: JVR (FA; if we move Simmer). Marner or Nylander* (*if they go all-in for JT).

ARZ: Domi

CGY: Monahan

CHI: Saad, Crawford

EDM: 9th overall pick
I had a few more but I’m blanking.
- arichardson22

Hoffman is someone the Flyers apparently inquired about at the trade deadline....I wonder if they will double back?

You and I both are going to get whiplash.
- MBFlyerfan

People in general are reactionary and don't really listen completely and think about it.

People in general are reactionary and don't really listen completely and think about it.
- nastyflyergirl

In terms of the media, I think they purposefully twist things to get ratings and readers. In terms of the public, most are just "headline readers" and don't bother to go any further in to it.

The media knows this about most people so they know they can get away with it.

In terms of the media, I think they purposefully twist things to get ratings and readers. In terms of the public, most are just "headline readers" and don't bother to go any further in to it.

The media knows this about most people so they know they can get away with it.
- MBFlyerfan

Ad revenue depends on eye balls to read and ears to listen to SCORCHING HOT TAEKS.

That's why you end up with the garbage sports radio landscape and the failing newspaper industry.

Ad revenue depends on eye balls to read and ears to listen to SCORCHING HOT TAEKS.

That's why you end up with the garbage sports radio landscape and the failing newspaper industry.
- johndewar

Exactly.

Last night, I had a dream that I told a high school hockey team that I was Joe Mullen, and that I'd like to play for them, but that I was too out of shape. The kids made me skate so they could see, and I tried my hardest but wasn't good enough.

That is all.

They need a new voice, and better tactical deployment. Sitting back in a 4 man box not pressuring the puck is awful. And that is all Laperriere does. Everyone stated that Laperriere had to go, now he's being brought back and people are trying to rationalize it. It's absurd.
- PLindbergh31

This.

Everyone wants to point to failed clears and what not which has some merit.

The Flyers were actually pretty good at suppressing shot attempts and scoring chances while shorthanded. The terrible save percentage is the main culprit, but why do they routinely get poor goal-tending on the PK? IMO it has to do with passive box and players (Flyer players included) not allowing Flyers' goalies to see the puck.

They successfully tanked Elliot's PK save percentage last year so they can no longer attribute it to Mason not performing on the PK.

We don't know for sure if Lappy will run the PK next year as Hextall left things kind of open. I hope PK duties go to someone else.