Here's the thing: I can kinda see, if you as the GM think you don't have the personnel to really pressure the puck on the PK, or you had some abnormally low SVPCT on the PK, you don't automatically jettison guys.
But for me, man. I mean, come on. This PK has just not gotten the job done for years. Some of it's probably, likely, personnel.
But it can't be all of it.
You can't keep finishing in the bottom five of the league, through multiple coaches, yet keep the one guy who has been running the PK.
We can all have opinions about Chief, but I'll go to my grave saying they would've made the playoffs the year he got the boot if the PK had done ANYTHING -- the PK lost them at least five games that season alone - AllInForFlyers
The Flyers have routinely had an abysmal PK SV%. They were the worst in the league this year (81.43%).
This was a knock on Mason while he was here, and I thought one of the main reasons he was let go. This was management pointing to him as a reason for the PK performing so poorly (poor PK SV%).
Brian Elliot's PK SV% (3 years prior to becoming a Flyer): 88.53%
2017/2018 PK SV% : 81.63%
Only constant over the past 4 years has been Lappy. Not sure what else they can point to.
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Apr 26 @ 4:37 PM ET
To be completely honest, I really don't think Weise played bad in the two playoff games. - ajw12
Because he didn’t. He played a physical game and finished his checks. He Was playing how he should have played all along.
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Apr 26 @ 4:37 PM ET
On the PK, Hexy needs to get Couts and Provorov some help. I don’t trust any of the rest of the guys they ran out there this year. The gang who can’t clear the puck.
Blame the coach if you want to, but that was a weak group of PKers imo.
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Apr 26 @ 4:40 PM ET
On the PK, Hexy needs to get Couts and Provorov some help. I don’t trust any of the rest of the guys they ran out there this year. The gang who can’t clear the puck.
Blame the coach if you want to, but that was a weak group of PKers imo. - Marc D
Coots shouldn't even have to be relied on to PK. He's already playing 1st line minutes and on the top PP. They need quality penalty killers in the bottom six which is something they just can't seem to find outside of like 2 guys.
On the PK, Hexy needs to get Couts and Provorov some help. I don’t trust any of the rest of the guys they ran out there this year. The gang who can’t clear the puck.
Blame the coach if you want to, but that was a weak group of PKers imo. - Marc D
There is not one specific problem. Some of it is personnel, some of it is coaching, some of it is execution. All that matters is that it has been a joke, and just hoping Morin fixes it all is weak
The Flyers have routinely had an abysmal PK SV%. They were the worst in the league this year (78.26%).
This was a knock on Mason while he was here, and I thought one of the main reasons he was let go. This was management pointing to him as a reason for the PK performing so poorly (poor PK SV%).
Brian Elliot's PK SV% (3 years prior to becoming a Flyer): 88.53%
2017/2018 PK SV% : 81.63%
Only constant over the past 4 years has been Lappy. Not sure what else they can point to. - JFlyers00
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Apr 26 @ 4:48 PM ET
The simplest decision going into next season is firing the coach who runs the PK. If this decision a 5 year old could make doesn't happen it's a poopshow.
Edit: Lehtera back based on Hextall interview. Hell bring Weise, Filpula and Manning back too! - PLindbergh31
Manning, Read, Oduya and Mrazek will not be back. I don't believe he addressed buyouts nor would I expect him to. you need a few happy pills
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Apr 26 @ 4:50 PM ET
On the PK, Hexy needs to get Couts and Provorov some help. I don’t trust any of the rest of the guys they ran out there this year. The gang who can’t clear the puck.
Blame the coach if you want to, but that was a weak group of PKers imo. - Marc D
and imo
They're mysteriously unable to clear even half the time. It's always a fire drill.
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Apr 26 @ 4:51 PM ET
So if Lehterä is back as the 4C, and they might bring back Filppula, where is the upgrade at center happening? - StepfordSam
My take on what he said was they would seek an upgrade. Flppula would not be a pre july 1 (aka free agency) signing which seems to me to mean he would be the last resort if they cannot find an upgrade.
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Apr 26 @ 4:54 PM ET
To be completely honest, I really don't think Weise played bad in the two playoff games. - ajw12
I was annoyed to no end when he was put back in the lineup and he ended up playing pretty well. just annoyed me more tho because why doesn't he play with that drive more often?
On the PK, Hexy needs to get Couts and Provorov some help. I don’t trust any of the rest of the guys they ran out there this year. The gang who can’t clear the puck.
Blame the coach if you want to, but that was a weak group of PKers imo. - Marc D
You didn't like seeing Filppula and Lehtera out there with Manning and Gudas? Weak pkers my butt! That's stellar!
The Flyers have routinely had an abysmal PK SV%. They were the worst in the league this year (78.26%).
This was a knock on Mason while he was here, and I thought one of the main reasons he was let go. This was management pointing to him as a reason for the PK performing so poorly (poor PK SV%).
Brian Elliot's PK SV% (3 years prior to becoming a Flyer): 88.53%
2017/2018 PK SV% : 81.63%
Only constant over the past 4 years has been Lappy. Not sure what else they can point to. - JFlyers00
Just because you can point to one constant does not mean that is the single biggest reason why the PK has been poor. That's lazy analysis.
Execution on the ice is the single biggest issue with the PK and has been for a while. I see all the failed clears and bad reads, allowing players to get position around the net. Placing it all on Lappy is just unfair. He deserves some of the blame for sure, as does Hakstol but reality is, coaching is not really the issue with the PK. Still not a bad idea to have a new voice but what they really need is an upgrade in personnel and for younger players to get better.
On the PK, Hexy needs to get Couts and Provorov some help. I don’t trust any of the rest of the guys they ran out there this year. The gang who can’t clear the puck.
Blame the coach if you want to, but that was a weak group of PKers imo. - Marc D
MacDonald is solid on the PK also but he shouldn't be on the top PK pairing.
Say what ? Ever hear of Washington ? Who was fired there ? I dont care what side of the brainwashed political isle you are, they all are incompetent and get nothing but paid - twpguy
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Apr 26 @ 5:54 PM ET
There is not one specific problem. Some of it is personnel, some of it is coaching, some of it is execution. All that matters is that it has been a joke, and just hoping Morin fixes it all is weak - YuenglingJagr
It’s 3/4 personnel and 1/4 coaching in my worthless opinion
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Apr 26 @ 5:55 PM ET
Coots shouldn't even have to be relied on to PK. He's already playing 1st line minutes and on the top PP. They need quality penalty killers in the bottom six which is something they just can't seem to find outside of like 2 guys. - hereticpride
I know, they play the poop out of Provy and Couts because they have too. Need more depth guys that can get it done.
