Can ghosts live in the desert?
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Yes they can especially when they dont show no one sees them..

I am 100% for giving spots to young players but you can't expect them to replace veterans right away in terms of results and that means pain, more pain.
- Unholy_Goalie

It depends. I don't expect Kapanen to score 36 but no one thought JVR would score that this year either.

If he scores 20 I'd be happy.

Gardiner, Andersen and Bracco

For

Seabrook and Crawford
- Byfuglien Ate Me

U need help b'y

Toronto is the best option for him.

I see it as NYI or TOR.

Of course, unless he wants money. Then it's up in the air.
- Santo_44

I'd like to think so as well.

But maybe he wants to be the 'true' #1C.

Price the goalie. Weber the D. Tavares the C.
Mtl will get rid of "patches" and with Drouin, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Mete and a few other good younger guys in there, that's not a bad team - and maybe at least as good a chance for Tavares to win a Stanley Cup as when joining Leafs.

Leafs miss the #1D.
Leafs miss the elite goalie.
Leafs already have the #1C.

From Tavares perspective.. not sure what's more attractive.
(unless he absolutely hates the Habs, but I think most Canadian professional hockey players can recognise that best 2 franchises are Leafs and Habs).

Yes they can especially when they dont show no one sees them..
- Fruitcakenipple

Matthews deserves one of the Score hockey cards from 1991. "The Shadow"





Of himself

It depends. I don't expect Kapanen to score 36 but no one thought JVR would score that this year either.

If he scores 20 I'd be happy.
- Aaron_85

30 for JVR was a given. 36 was a slightly pleasant surprise.

I can see Kapanen, Johnsson and Brown scoring 50-55 combined. It should be enough to replace the goals.

Good. I like pain - give me pain.
- Steven_Seagull

Turn a new leaf & be a Canucks fan 😂😂

I'd like to think so as well.

But maybe he wants to be the 'true' #1C.

Price the goalie. Weber the D. Tavares the C.
Mtl will get rid of "patches" and with Drouin, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Mete and a few other good younger guys in there, that's not a bad team - and maybe at least as good a chance for Tavares to win a Stanley Cup as when joining Leafs.

Leafs miss the #1D.
Leafs miss the elite goalie.
Leafs already have the #1C.

From Tavares perspective.. not sure what's more attractive.
(unless he absolutely hates the Habs, but I think most Canadian professional hockey players can recognise that best 2 franchises are Leafs and Habs).
- MaximusAurelius

Tavares would no doubt make the Leafs better but they had him.and Barzal up the middle this year and missed the playoffs. Gotta be well rounded.

U need help b'y
- Fruitcakenipple

Fukin Rites

Better than Crosby Malkin Brassard?

It's close.
- david22

No its not

I'd like to think so as well.

But maybe he wants to be the 'true' #1C.

Price the goalie. Weber the D. Tavares the C.
Mtl will get rid of "patches" and with Drouin, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Mete and a few other good younger guys in there, that's not a bad team - and maybe at least as good a chance for Tavares to win a Stanley Cup as when joining Leafs.

Leafs miss the #1D.
Leafs miss the elite goalie.
Leafs already have the #1C.

From Tavares perspective.. not sure what's more attractive.
(unless he absolutely hates the Habs, but I think most Canadian professional hockey players can recognise that best 2 franchises are Leafs and Habs).
- MaximusAurelius

Why do they all sign with the Rangers then?

Out in the 1st round. That's winning?

Nashville is a way better fit. More money, better team, quiet life.

It really isn't unless they blow the doors off with an offer nobody can match like 14 million a year or something crazy.
- Unholy_Goalie

Cap space

NSH-7 million

TOR-25 million

More money? WRONG

And uhmmm.......don't be hypocritical, if I'm not allowed to say playing for his hometown is a factor you can not say playing in a "quiet" environment is a factor. We don't know what type of environment he wants to play in.

You don't know him personally, I don't know him personally. Your point is invalid there.

And yes, when you look at the Leafs team and you add Tavares? They are most certainly a top team during his tenure.

Tavares would no doubt make the Leafs better but they had him.and Barzal up the middle this year and missed the playoffs. Gotta be well rounded.
- TheMussel

they had worst goaltending in league as well

Fukin Rites
- Byfuglien Ate Me

same...

Double edge sword. He was the reason they got to game 7 and a big part of why they lost game 7.

You can make all the diving stick saves you want, the softies can't go in when it matters.

But I think the problem is just fatigue. Nobody faced more shots than he did this season. The Leafs need to give up fewer shots and they need a back-up who can play 25-30 games.
- Unholy_Goalie

Agree with the fatigue part. With better D, we can play our backup more next year and rest Freddy for more games. Our backup did play very well later this past season. All a part of our rebuild. Stay positive gang. Look how far we came in a very short time. And we have the best management group in the league to push us to the next stage.

Why do they all sign with the Rangers then?
- golfingsince

because NYC.
and had legit elite goalie and good D.

Gardiner, Andersen and Bracco

For

Seabrook and Crawford
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Hawks would listen. Leafs taking in more cap which is valuable though.

30 for JVR was a given. 36 was a slightly pleasant surprise.

I can see Kapanen, Johnsson and Brown scoring 50-55 combined. It should be enough to replace the goals.
- Unholy_Goalie

Jvr and 30 wasn't given. 20 to 25 is given but we are arguing semantics there.

We can end our good discussion here since usually they turn into arguments haha

same...
- Fruitcakenipple

Can't believe I'm going to have to work off this hangover for a loss.


B'y the Jesus

Hawks would listen. Leafs taking in more cap which is valuable though.
- Nighthawk

oh

20m in & less out.
How are Matthews & Marner getting theirs?
- Nighthawk

Endorsement deals.

Agree with the fatigue part. With better D, we can play our backup more next year and rest Freddy for more games. Our backup did play very well later this past season. All a part of our rebuild. Stay positive gang. Look how far we came in a very short time. And we have the best management group in the league to push us to the next stage.
- Leafsmart

if Leafs really want to be a 'defense first' team, then they need to completely change the whole team structure.

only keep Rielly and Dermott on defense.
(maybe Hainsey/Polak for bottom pair)
get rid of JVR, Nylander, Gardiner, Zaitsev, Andersen.'

that's not going to happen.

Cap space

NSH-7 million

TOR-25 million

More money? WRONG

And uhmmm.......don't be hypocritical, if I'm not allowed to say playing for his hometown is a factor you can not say playing in a "quiet" environment is a factor. We don't know what type of environment he wants to play in.

You don't know him personally, I don't know him personally. Your point is invalid there.

And yes, when you look at the Leafs team and you add Tavares? They are most certainly a top team during his tenure.
- Santo_44

Cap is going up to 78-82, so let's say 80. That's 12 million. And they can clear salary very easily. Not to mention he walks home with more money in Nashville than he does in Toronto because of the better tax rate. So thank you but have a seat.

9 times out of 10, the players go with the better team (Nashville), more money (Nashville gives more than the Leafs unless the Leafs seriously overpay) and the quieter environment.

Cap is going up to 78-82, so let's say 80. That's 12 million. And they can clear salary very easily. Not to mention he walks home with more money in Nashville than he does in Toronto because of the better tax rate. So thank you but have a seat.

9 times out of 10, the players go with the better team (Nashville), more money (Nashville gives more than the Leafs unless the Leafs seriously overpay) and the quieter environment.
- Unholy_Goalie

no FA wants to go to Nashville

it's bad enough that the Leafs lost so everyone die