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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: Reasons why there is cause for optimism; Game 7 – Leafs vs. Bruins
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twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Apr 25 @ 11:42 PM ET
Cap is going up to 78-82, so let's say 80. That's 12 million. And they can clear salary very easily. Not to mention he walks home with more money in Nashville than he does in Toronto because of the better tax rate. So thank you but have a seat.

9 times out of 10, the players go with the better team (Nashville), more money (Nashville gives more than the Leafs unless the Leafs seriously overpay) and the quieter environment.

- Unholy_Goalie

no one cares
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Apr 25 @ 11:43 PM ET
Jvr and 30 wasn't given. 20 to 25 is given but we are arguing semantics there.

We can end our good discussion here since usually they turn into arguments haha

- Aaron_85


I'd say 30 was a given. He's in his prime, in a contract year and his averages the past few years are closer to 30 than they are to 20. Plus all the PP time and the offensive style they play, 30 was a pretty safe bet for JVR.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 25 @ 11:43 PM ET
I'd like to think so as well.

But maybe he wants to be the 'true' #1C.

Price the goalie. Weber the D. Tavares the C.
Mtl will get rid of "patches" and with Drouin, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Mete and a few other good younger guys in there, that's not a bad team - and maybe at least as good a chance for Tavares to win a Stanley Cup as when joining Leafs.

Leafs miss the #1D.
Leafs miss the elite goalie.
Leafs already have the #1C.

From Tavares perspective.. not sure what's more attractive.
(unless he absolutely hates the Habs, but I think most Canadian professional hockey players can recognise that best 2 franchises are Leafs and Habs).

- MaximusAurelius

Sure it's an option too, he'd probably get a bit more money but less chance to win.

its up to Tavares what he wants
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 25 @ 11:43 PM ET
because NYC.
and had legit elite goalie and good D.

- MaximusAurelius

I think it’s becuase they can walk down the street in relative obscurity.

The Habs haven’t won the cup since 1993, I’d say the best franchises are south of the border.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Apr 25 @ 11:44 PM ET
Agree with the fatigue part. With better D, we can play our backup more next year and rest Freddy for more games. Our backup did play very well later this past season. All a part of our rebuild. Stay positive gang. Look how far we came in a very short time. And we have the best management group in the league to push us to the next stage.
- Leafsmart


If they keep McElhinney, he has to play 25+ games, or you get somebody else who can.

And the D has to be better in front of the goalies but the odds are that's a much bigger problem to fix. Signing a back-up who can play 10-12 extra games is the easier, quicker solution.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 25 @ 11:44 PM ET
no FA wants to go to Nashville
- MaximusAurelius


Yes why be on a real cup contender?
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Apr 25 @ 11:44 PM ET
Eventually one team stops scoring (lead) and the other team has to respond (come-back).

Defense and Goaltending prevents what you just witnessed over the last 15 minutes of the game....

- Whiskey-Tango

Like I said goaltending was poop tonight. It happens, it’s just to bad it game 7.

Goal from the the blue line from Krug wasn’t good and Debrusk 5 hole was absolute garbage with what was at stake. Need to make those routine saves as a nhl goalie.
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Apr 25 @ 11:45 PM ET
Hawks would listen. Leafs taking in more cap which is valuable though.
- Nighthawk


You gamble on what Bracco is in that deal.

Seabrook prevents so many of the goals Retardner gives up.

Crawford is proven to get the job done and not fold like a card table.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Apr 25 @ 11:45 PM ET
no FA wants to go to Nashville
- MaximusAurelius


80 million dollars over 7 years and you join a Cup contender?

UFAs don't go to Nashville because usually they don't want to spend the money but if they're ever going to spend the money, it'll be now.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Apr 25 @ 11:45 PM ET
Like I said goaltending was poop tonight. It happens, it’s just to bad it game 7.

Goal from the the blue line from Krug wasn’t good and Debrusk 5 hole was absolute garbage with what was at stake. Need to make those routine saves as a nhl goalie.

- bryant


only 2 more years until joseph woll
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 25 @ 11:46 PM ET
You gamble on what Bracco is in that deal.

Seabrook prevents so many of the goals Retardner gives up.

Crawford is proven to get the job done and not fold like a card table.

- Byfuglien Ate Me



All true
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 25 @ 11:47 PM ET
Cap is going up to 78-82, so let's say 80. That's 12 million. And they can clear salary very easily. Not to mention he walks home with more money in Nashville than he does in Toronto because of the better tax rate. So thank you but have a seat.

9 times out of 10, the players go with the better team (Nashville), more money (Nashville gives more than the Leafs unless the Leafs seriously overpay) and the quieter environment.

- Unholy_Goalie


.......

You do realize they need to resign a backup goalie, a D and 3-4 forwards.

They will have about 5 million after that....with the bare minimum. Sorry but Nashville is not realistic when you look at their cap situation.

Which is expected, there team is set. They just have to make sure they have enough space to give Ellis 5-6 million in 2 years. That's all they are worried about
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Apr 25 @ 11:47 PM ET
nerds
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Apr 25 @ 11:48 PM ET
You gamble on what Bracco is in that deal.

Seabrook prevents so many of the goals Retardner gives up.

Crawford is proven to get the job done and not fold like a card table.

- Byfuglien Ate Me


Seabrook is signed to a ridiculously stupid contract until he's 40. He's good for another year or two and then he becomes more and more useless every year.

Without Crawford, the Blackhawks missed the playoffs. No way they give him up.

And the Blackhawks want to succeed in the playoffs while they still can, why the hell would they take on Andersen if he's such a huge playoff choker for Crawford who you yourself said gets the job down and doesn't fold.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Apr 25 @ 11:48 PM ET
Leaf management should be phoning the Yotes this summer and asking what ya willing to give up for hometown boy Matthews..
- Fruitcakenipple

Chychrun
Strome
Domi
Perlini
1st
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Apr 25 @ 11:48 PM ET
For what it's worth, I think the leafs had a very good year.
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Apr 25 @ 11:49 PM ET
Leaf management should be phoning the Yotes this summer and asking what ya willing to give up for hometown boy Matthews..
- Fruitcakenipple


Sign Tavares.
(frank) JVR
(frank) the Bozek
(frank) Polak


To ARI:
Matthews
Gardiner
Carrick
(+ picks if need be)

To TOR:
OEL
Chychrun
Keller
Stome
Domi

Marner-Tavares-Nylander
Marleau-Kadri-Brown
Domi-Keller-Kapanen
Hyman-Strome-Johnsson

Rielly-OEL
Chychrun-Hainsey
Zaitsev-Dermott

Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Apr 25 @ 11:50 PM ET
.......

You do realize they need to resign a backup goalie, a D and 3-4 forwards.

They will have about 5 million after that....with the bare minimum. Sorry but Nashville is not realistic when you look at their cap situation.

Which is expected, there team is set. They just have to make sure they have enough space to give Ellis 5-6 million in 2 years. That's all they are worried about

- Santo_44


So they trade a player they don't need like Smith or Arvidsson. It's not hard. Trading Turris would do the job by itself. A couple ELC to fill the gaps.

Nashville is a damn near perfect situation for him to walk into, if you're objective of course which you seem to be having problems with at the moment.
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Apr 25 @ 11:51 PM ET
80 million dollars over 7 years and you join a Cup contender?

UFAs don't go to Nashville because usually they don't want to spend the money but if they're ever going to spend the money, it'll be now.

- Unholy_Goalie


Tavares can make more money in Toronto than in Nashville due to endorsement deals.
That's not speculating. That's a simple fact.

Winning SC with Toronto >> winning SC with Nashvillle surely for a Canadian born player.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Apr 25 @ 11:51 PM ET
For what it's worth, I think the leafs had a very good year.
- Beatle_john

ty and vancouver had bright spots too with their youth.
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Apr 25 @ 11:52 PM ET
For what it's worth, I think the leafs had a very good year.
- Beatle_john


Me 2.... But Gardiner needs to go and Matthews better be injured or he needs to go 2.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 25 @ 11:53 PM ET
So they trade a player they don't need like Smith or Arvidsson. It's not hard. Trading Turris would do the job by itself. A couple ELC to fill the gaps.

Nashville is a damn near perfect situation for him to walk into, if you're objective of course which you seem to be having problems with at the moment.

- Unholy_Goalie


Why don't they need those players.........they just signed both of them long term. And even then, it only gives them about under 10 million to sign Tavares to get to the cap ceiling....

And with Ellis becoming a FA in a couple years they simply don't have the room.

Nashville is one of the least possible places in the NHL, in fact I would put money on him not going to Nashville
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Apr 25 @ 11:54 PM ET
Tavares can make more money in Toronto than in Nashville due to endorsement deals.
That's not speculating. That's a simple fact.


Winning SC with Toronto >> winning SC with Nashvillle surely for a Canadian born player.

- MaximusAurelius


That could be in the dictionary to help define the world speculation.

Winning a Cup is far from a guarantee so not only are his odds in Nashville way better, but if he were to NOT win a Cup in Nashville, it'd be water under a bridge. In Toronto, not the same story. You're so fixated on the glory you can't see the forest from the trees and see the whole picture.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Apr 25 @ 11:55 PM ET
Me 2.... But Gardiner needs to go and Matthews better be injured or he needs to go 2.
- .HOHO.



If he wasn't there should be concern and if he was there should be concern..

#Chokejob
#injuryprone
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Apr 25 @ 11:56 PM ET
Seabrook is signed to a ridiculously stupid contract until he's 40. He's good for another year or two and then he becomes more and more useless every year.

Without Crawford, the Blackhawks missed the playoffs. No way they give him up.

And the Blackhawks want to succeed in the playoffs while they still can, why the hell would they take on Andersen if he's such a huge playoff choker for Crawford who you yourself said gets the job down and doesn't fold.

- Unholy_Goalie



For the chance to have both Bracco and Bar Stool Debrincat be their next wave man.
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