The Flyers have Couturier, Patrick, with Frost and a number of other center prospects in the pipeline. They'll also need to in the very near future, re-sign Provorov, Konency, Patrick, Sanheim, and possibly re-signing Simmonds. If they decide to move on from Simmonds, they'll have a bigger need at wing if prospects don't step up. It does not make sense for the Flyers to get into a potential 10M AAV for Taveras. Adding a much cheaper 3rd line center makes far more sense for this team to bridge the gap.
- MJL

So Frost is a given? Aren't you the one who always say prospects are just that, prospects.

I don't think Tavares will be 10 million. If he is then you move on. But you have other ways to resign your own. You could move a giroux or vorack if need be. Also you eventually have guys like MacDonald and Gudas coming off the books in the near future. Gostisbehere is signed at a reasonable deal, Couturier's deal is reasonable. So I don't resign simmonds. As you talk about Frost being in the pipeline the Flyers also have wingers that can also step in when Simmonds moves on.

I really don't think it will be that hard to make it work at all and I would rather be super elite down the middle.

There is ZERO chance Tavares signs with us......NONE! You heard it here first he stays with the islanders case closed
- Bobd62

He very well might. But if he wants to stay on the east coast look what Philly can offer. The sports scene is exploding right now and he would be joining the Flyers at the perfect time the window is opening right in the prime of his career

He very well might. But if he wants to stay on the east coast look what Philly can offer. The sports scene is exploding right now and he would be joining the Flyers at the perfect time the window is opening right in the prime of his career
- J35Bacher

If you can sign Tavares and trade Voracek for futures....why would anyone not consider that. Jake does not have an NTC

If you can sign Tavares and trade Voracek for futures....why would anyone not consider that
- Just5

I don't know.

I really don't think it's as far fetched as some think. It's not an aging vet. It's an in his prime superstar.

So Frost is a given? Aren't you the one who always say prospects are just that, prospects.

I don't think Tavares will be 10 million. If he is then you move on. But you have other ways to resign your own. You could move a giroux or vorack if need be. Also you eventually have guys like MacDonald and Gudas coming off the books in the near future. Gostisbehere is signed at a reasonable deal, Couturier's deal is reasonable. So I don't resign simmonds. As you talk about Frost being in the pipeline the Flyers also have wingers that can also step in when Simmonds moves on.

I really don't think it will be that hard to make it work at all and I would rather be super elite down the middle.
- J35Bacher

No, Frost is not a given. Did you not read that I said acquiring a far cheaper 3rd line center makes more sense? It doesn't matter if Taveras is 8M AAV, still does not make sense. It's not about if you can make it work, it's about if it makes sense. It doesn't. For those reasons, I don't think Hextall will get involved but hey I could be wrong.

I think Tavares will sign for 10+ AAV
- YuenglingJagr

I don't think JT would want to come to philly to start with. With Couturier and Patrick already in the middle? The player himself may not see the fit....

I don't know.

I really don't think it's as far fetched as some think. It's not an aging vet. It's an in his prime superstar.
- J35Bacher

Who will get 11+ aav in my opinion.

You keep comparing it to Stamkos, but Stamkos was a hometown discount for numerous reasons.



http://www.tampabay.com/s...or-steven-stamkos/2262766

http://bleacherreport.com...metown-discount-contracts

Given his accomplishments, Stamkos could've earned at least as much as Los Angeles Kings center Anze Kopitar. On Jan. 16, the Kings re-signed Kopitar to an eight-year, $80 million contract.

On June 30, NHL.com's Dan Rosen reported Stamkos' desire to win the Stanley Cup with the Lightning was a motivating factor in his decision to re-sign. Rosen also noted general manager Steve Yzerman said the club's limited salary-cap space was another reason his captain agreed to accept less money.

I'm not trying to be argumentative and would in fact, JUMP at the chance to get Tavares if he came here for Stamkos money. I just think there is 0% chance of it happening.

If you can sign Tavares and trade Voracek for futures....why would anyone not consider that. Jake does not have an NTC
- Just5

Flyers already have a #1 center in Couturier, and another one in Patrick heading in that direction. Take away Voracek and they're weak on the wing.

No, Frost is not a given. Did you not read that I said acquiring a far cheaper 3rd line center makes more sense? It doesn't matter if Taveras is 8M AAV, still does not make sense. It's not about if you can make it work, it's about if it makes sense. It doesn't. For those reasons, I don't think Hextall will get involved but hey I could be wrong.
- MJL

Why? You keep saying this but why? Just because of trying to resign your own? You don't exactly say why it doesn't make sense? Does it stop the plan of drafting and developing?

So Frost is a given? Aren't you the one who always say prospects are just that, prospects.

I don't think Tavares will be 10 million. If he is then you move on. But you have other ways to resign your own. You could move a giroux or vorack if need be. Also you eventually have guys like MacDonald and Gudas coming off the books in the near future. Gostisbehere is signed at a reasonable deal, Couturier's deal is reasonable. So I don't resign simmonds. As you talk about Frost being in the pipeline the Flyers also have wingers that can also step in when Simmonds moves on.

I really don't think it will be that hard to make it work at all and I would rather be super elite down the middle.
- J35Bacher

I think the Flyers have the $ to make it work or could find it...But does this seem like a Hextall move...at this point?

I think the Flyers have the $ to make it work or could find it...But does this seem like a Hextall move...at this point?
- landros 2

Honestly i don't know. He's never had the space to do something like that.

Why? You keep saying this but why? Just because of trying to resign your own? You don't exactly say why it doesn't make sense? Does it stop the plan of drafting and developing?
- J35Bacher

Actually I did say why it doesn't make sense multiple times. You just don't agree with it or refuse to accept why it doesn't make sense.

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- bmeltzer

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I don't think JT would want to come to philly to start with. With Couturier and Patrick already in the middle? The player himself may not see the fit....
- landros 2

Flyers have a 2nd power play unit that gave up more goals than it potted over the course of the year. I don't think he wants to come here, but I don't see a problem with fit. The best teams roll out 3 lines that are equally capable offensively. We aren't anywhere near that. If people are content with sitting on their hands for Frost/Hart etc, so be it. Marner came in as a center I believe he is on the wing still. Frost I think is multiple years away from having a 200ft. impact at center in the NHL.
Its silly not to consider it.

I think the Flyers have the $ to make it work or could find it...But does this seem like a Hextall move...at this point?
- landros 2

At this point, no.

Honestly i don't know. He's never had the space to do something like that.
- J35Bacher

And there has never been a player to hit the market like Tavares. He probably won't make it to Jul 1 like Stamkos never did but its fun to banter. Saying that it makes no sense when the flyers have space and the ability to move some contracts makes no sense

And there has never been a player to hit the market like Tavares. He probably won't make it to Jul 1 like Stamkos never did but its fun to banter. Saying that it makes no sense when the flyers have space and the ability to move some contracts makes no sense
- Just5

Never? Never, ever?

Questions for you. How much do you think it is going to cost to re-sign Provorov and Konecny? How does it makes sense to create a weakness in one area of the team to improve an area that is already a strength of the team?

And there has never been a player to hit the market like Tavares. He probably won't make it to Jul 1 like Stamkos never did but its fun to banter. Saying that it makes no sense when the flyers have space and the ability to move some contracts makes no sense
- Just5

Well everyone says "it's not a hextall thing to do" but I don't agree. When has he had the prospect depth and cap space to actually be bold.

I am not so certain Tavares goes back to the islanders unless he wants to take a discount. they have more holes then the Flyers to fill and looking at the landscape there are a lot of teams that are further away then the Flyers.

If it's all about money then thats good for him. Someone I am sure would pay 10-11 million. If it's about cups then the Flyers offer one of the better chances to compete for that as teams like the Pens and Caps are aging.

Well everyone says "it's not a hextall thing to do" but I don't agree. When has he had the prospect depth and cap space to actually be bold.

I am not so certain Tavares goes back to the islanders unless he wants to take a discount. they have more holes then the Flyers to fill and looking at the landscape there are a lot of teams that are further away then the Flyers.

If it's all about money then thats good for him. Someone I am sure would pay 10-11 million. If it's about cups then the Flyers offer one of the better chances to compete for that as teams like the Pens and Caps are aging.
- J35Bacher

I understand your line of thinking, but I see Toronto as a much better fit for him as they will have the cap space and are closer to that "compete" threshold.


EDIT: And I will add that in signing with Toronto he would LITERALLY be going home.

Never? Never, ever?

Questions for you. How much do you think it is going to cost to re-sign Provorov and Konecny? How does it makes sense to create a weakness in one area of the team to improve an area that is already a strength of the team?
- MJL

Not since Hextall's been here. Provorov will probably come in around 7 mil. He doesn't have the offensive numbers to demand much more than that. Konecny probably 4.75 over 5 years. Assuming they trade Voracek all of this is a non issue. You speak of this strength of the team that the flyers have down the middle. How did that work for them in the playoffs? And if the Leafs have Matthews and Kadri already with Marner who is capable of playing center...why are they rumored to consider Tavares either?

Flyers have a 2nd power play unit that gave up more goals than it potted over the course of the year. I don't think he wants to come here, but I don't see a problem with fit. The best teams roll out 3 lines that are equally capable offensively. We aren't anywhere near that. If people are content with sitting on their hands for Frost/Hart etc, so be it. Marner came in as a center I believe he is on the wing still. Frost I think is multiple years away from having a 200ft. impact at center in the NHL.
Its silly not to consider it.
- Just5

I've never said they shouldn't consider it...I'm not sold on the fit, but that only applies to the current structure...But JT is a corner stone of the franchise type....every team should have interest on some level.
Frost is a very good prospect as well. I watched quite of bit of him this year. I have to keep reminding myself that he's only 18....all those kids up at the top of the scoring are mostly 19 and 20. I am very excited to see how he progresses. I don't pretend to know a time line, That's guess work...im sure even for Ron Hextall himself.

I understand your line of thinking, but I see Toronto as a much better fit for him as they will have the cap space and are closer to that "compete" threshold.
- MBFlyerfan

They might. but then like everyone likes to tell me why the Flyers can't wouldn't that be a reason for the Leafs too?

Matthews will need a bigger deal then Provorov. Also Nylander and Marner.

says a lot about their depth when Filipula has to be put as a #1. Down the stretch he played a few games as the #4 center.

Do you think Pitt can keep Riley Sheahan and Brassard? I know Riley is a RFA and Brassard has another year. Would Riley be an acceptable 3rd center for the Flyers? Could the Flyers actually offer sheet him? With Pitt's cap I am not sure they could match.

I've never said they shouldn't consider it...I'm not sold on the fit, but that only applies to the current structure...But JT is a corner stone of the franchise type....every team should have interest on some level.
Frost is a very good prospect as well. I watched quite of bit of him this year. I have to keep reminding myself that he's only 18....all those kids up at the top of the scoring are mostly 19 and 20. I am very excited to see how he progresses. I don't pretend to know a time line, That's guess work...im sure even for Ron Hextall himself.
- landros 2

Frost has had a quiet playoff, being younger I guess could play into that, I just hope he turns it on and then has a real good summer.

Flyers already have a #1 center in Couturier, and another one in Patrick heading in that direction. Take away Voracek and they're weak on the wing.
- MJL

They would be weaker on the wing. Their best and closest prospects are wingers...and would have some money to sign a middle 6 stopgap winger