So Jack is coaching? I wasn't aware he was making lines, thought that was Phil's job. Not saying he doesn't have say in it, but I doubt Jack is telling Housley who he's playing with.

And that is the point, I could see E-Rod and Jack playing well together...they certainly did at Boston. Why you assume those two wouldn't work together is beyond me.

Beyond that, even further down the rabbit hole, we were already playing a bottom 6 forward (Gus) with Jack as it was...Gus could have just as easily played 4th line center while the experiment was tested. Wouldn't have cost you a single thing this season we were dead last.
- RhinoFan

Of course he's not coaching, but you know they discuss it.

Zemgus is a grinder, Pomminville is a solid two way player. Neither are top line guys, but it's easy to see how they compliment Jack's weaknesses. Jack needs guys who can do the dirty work and get him the puck. We don't have many of those.

So Jack is coaching? I wasn't aware he was making lines, thought that was Phil's job. Not saying he doesn't have say in it, but I doubt Jack is telling Housley who he's playing with.

And that is the point, I could see E-Rod and Jack playing well together...they certainly did at Boston. Why you assume those two wouldn't work together is beyond me.

Beyond that, even further down the rabbit hole, we were already playing a bottom 6 forward (Gus) with Jack as it was...Gus could have just as easily played 4th line center while the experiment was tested. Wouldn't have cost you a single thing this season we were dead last.
- RhinoFan

With his $10m contract, Jack has been promoted to GM.
He had successful internship under GMTM, crowning the experience by getting Bylsma fired.
Phil, for obvious reasons, does what Jack tells him to do.
It is widely known that Jack hates ERod and wants nothing to do with his former coat-tail-rider.

Source: Bills likely gunning for Giants No. 2 pick

A source has told Metro New York that the Bills want to get up in the top three of the 2018 NFL Draft.

https://www.metro.us/spor...pick#.Wt384UtoNs4.twitter
- GilPerreault11

I’m all for (frank)ing up the jets

I like the idea of E-Rod with Jack. Other winger on that line would be if we get one of the big ones in the draft.
- Hatboro_Swords

You wonder 3ER if the Sabres are waiting to re unite

Erod-jack-oreagan

Still odd that either coach wouldn't give it a look see

eye leik pineapple on pissa and lusten to lane della ray

am i unike yet

With his $10m contract, Jack has been promoted to GM.
He had successful internship under GMTM, crowning the experience by getting Bylsma fired.
Phil, for obvious reasons, does what Jack tells him to do.
It is widely known that Jack hates ERod and wants nothing to do with his former coat-tail-rider.
- IonSabres

E rod seams pretty likeable.
Jack seams like a d!ck

Erod might be the bright spot other then guhle from the tmgm era

That's a good point, but this was a complete lost season.
They shuffled everyone, but them together.

I do like erod ar 3rd line center
- Boss34

It's not the only thing they don't do though. Bailey got a look with Eichel, Baptiste and ERod didn't. Larsson got a little time with Jack, Josefson didn't. It's not some kind of oversight.

Source: Bills likely gunning for Giants No. 2 pick

A source has told Metro New York that the Bills want to get up in the top three of the 2018 NFL Draft.

https://www.metro.us/spor...pick#.Wt384UtoNs4.twitter
- GilPerreault11

So once again.....its pure speculation.

It's not the only thing they don't do though. Bailey got a look with Eichel, Baptiste and ERod didn't. Larsson got a little time with Jack, Josefson didn't. It's not some kind of oversight.
- Lunaion

I hate to fall back on the Sabres purposely losing, but why wouldn't baps, erod or ror get any regular time together?

Im not a fan of disco or phil.

I would like to give Phil another fresh start with the 10 new guys from the beginning of last season

So once again.....its pure speculation.
- feetontheair22

You are a jets fan right?
Who fits the jets best at qb?

Are we all in the same boat, everyone seams ro like baker mayfield?

I get the idea that the jets are really high on barkley, maybe not 3 (2nds) high, but they may upset the apple cart and surprise pick him

I’m all for (frank)ing up the jets
- gerbe75pts

If the Bills want to throw away alllllll the progress they'd made so far in the rebuild...then by all means trade up to #2. All those picks...all those chances to fill the holes on a team that is coming along nicely.

But please....PLEASE do the most "DA BILLZ" thing possible and trade away a mountain of picks to move up.

We'll have to settle for the "consolation prize" of Rosen...my heart weeps.

You are a jets fan right?
Who fits the jets best at qb?

Are we all in the same boat, everyone seams ro like baker mayfield?

I get the idea that the jets are really high on barkley, maybe not 3 (2nds) high, but they may upset the apple cart and surprise pick him
- Boss34

Rosen fits best....but the scuttlebutt is that the Jets want Mayfield. And I want him too...we need a new face of our franchise and the kid is a gamer. He would bring an energy to the QB position that the Jets havn't had since Joe Namath left.

We won't pick Barkley, even though that would be pretty cool. It will be Mayfield.

So once again.....its pure speculation.
- feetontheair22

Then there is this:

http://profootballtalk.nb...kely-to-trade-up-to-no-2/

I hate to fall back on the Sabres purposely losing, but why wouldn't baps, erod or ror get any regular time together?

Im not a fan of disco or phil.

I would like to give Phil another fresh start with the 10 new guys from the beginning of last season
- Boss34

Occam's razor:

Phil wants to win
Phil plays the lines he thinks are the best

or

Stealth tank
Phil avoids playing lines he knows are better

Of course he's not coaching, but you know they discuss it.

Zemgus is a grinder, Pomminville is a solid two way player. Neither are top line guys, but it's easy to see how they compliment Jack's weaknesses. Jack needs guys who can do the dirty work and get him the puck. We don't have many of those.
- Lunaion

Eichel doesn't need grinders, and he can do a little dirty work behind the net. He's really good at avoiding big hits. He needs someone to convert his feeds and he needs speed on his wings to keep up. I still like Okposo on the right if he isn't moved, but on the left, he needs ramming speed. If Okposo is moved, Baptiste = 20 goals there. Even those who think that Baptiste is a 3rd liner would - I think - agree that the NHL trend is to play your best center with lower-tier fast guys. Baptiste is our man imo

Occam's razor:

Phil wants to win
Phil plays the lines he thinks are the best

or

Stealth tank
Phil avoids playing lines he knows are better
- Lunaion

For the love of (frank)ing god this season was not a stealth tank

Not even close

We were truly, historically AWFUL.

Watch one minute of the playoffs this season and then sit there and tell me we're close and that they somehow convinced Terry Pegula a tank in disguise would be the best course of action this season.

It's flat out idiotic to think this season was an intentional tank.

There's like 4 or 5 powerhouses in the playoffs this season and the other 10 or 11 teams got dominated, almost flat out DOMINATED.

We would have gotten swept with a combined score of like 46-5 this year, honest to goodness people. We're so far off it's heart-breaking.

Eichel doesn't need grinders, and he can do a little dirty work behind the net. He's really good at avoiding big hits. He needs someone to convert his feeds and he needs speed on his wings to keep up. I still like Okposo on the right if he isn't moved, but on the left, he needs ramming speed. If Okposo is moved, Baptiste = 20 goals there. Even those who think that Baptiste is a 3rd liner would - I think - agree that the NHL trend is to play your best center with lower-tier fast guys. Baptiste is our man imo
- jcragcrumple

Seems to have worked for Crosby his entire career.

Gotta be a leafs fan tonight

Seems to have worked for Crosby his entire career.
- BeadyEyedDouche

We're still looking for Eichel's Kunitz

Gotta be a leafs fan tonight
- Sabresfan-365

Crazy world

Eichel doesn't need grinders, and he can do a little dirty work behind the net. He's really good at avoiding big hits. He needs someone to convert his feeds and he needs speed on his wings to keep up. I still like Okposo on the right if he isn't moved, but on the left, he needs ramming speed. If Okposo is moved, Baptiste = 20 goals there. Even those who think that Baptiste is a 3rd liner would - I think - agree that the NHL trend is to play your best center with lower-tier fast guys. Baptiste is our man imo
- jcragcrumple

Eichel absolutely needs a grinder-type with him. The more skill the better, of course. It's why you see Bailey tried with him, but not Baptiste. Ironically, I think RoR would be a good linemate for Jack.

Eichel absolutely needs a grinder-type with him. The more skill the better, of course. It's why you see Bailey tried with him, but not Baptiste. Ironically, I think RoR would be a good linemate for Jack.
- Lunaion

That's why I like Okposo there. He's a more skilled version of the Latvian locomotive. We need that fast LW on the other side tho. Maybe the draft

Eichel absolutely needs a grinder-type with him. The more skill the better, of course. It's why you see Bailey tried with him, but not Baptiste. Ironically, I think RoR would be a good linemate for Jack.
- Lunaion

I'm not really a big stats guy...but I had a hunch that Girgs was playing well with Eichel...sure enough:

https://frozenpool.dobber...s.com/players/Jack-Eichel

scroll down a bit to see line productions

EDIT: This is, of course, taking Kane out of equation

That's why I like Okposo there. He's a more skilled version of the Latvian locomotive. We need that fast LW on the other side tho. Maybe the draft
- jcragcrumple

I've liked Okposo with him, but I don't think it's the long term solution. I have a much harder time coming up with a reason they don't play them together more often.

I'm not really a big stats guy...but I had a hunch that Girgs was playing well with Eichel...sure enough:

https://frozenpool.dobber...s.com/players/Jack-Eichel

scroll down a bit to see line productions

EDIT: This is, of course, taking Kane out of equation
- feetontheair22

That says that Eichel played with Girgensons 45% of his time, and scored 21% of his points there.

Girgensons is horrible for Eichel