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RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

Apr 22 @ 10:01 PM ET
Has any team ever in playoff history given up 8 goals and won the game? I can't think of one time that's worked.

We are trying to sell our house near the beach in LA (think: about a mile above the Baywatch beach for those old enough to remember). I accidentally hit button 5 on my sat radio and the game came on and it was 4-4 after two. poop. I needed to kill about three hours before I could go home to watch the epic win right? After letting my 6 year old drive the golf cart all over Riviera CC while we played about 4 holes in no specific order, I got the urge to check my phone. Then I got the urge to puke.

You can't give up 8 goals and expect anything other than to lose in the playoffs. Sorry.

- flyersfaninLA

Kings 10 - Oilers 8. April 7, 82.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Apr 22 @ 10:03 PM ET
I’ll be interested to hear Hextalls state of the team. I’m sure it will mostly be platitudes. Hoping the press can push him on the bottom six, what he intends to do with Gudas and Manning. What he plans on doing with Neuvy.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Apr 22 @ 10:05 PM ET
Declined to speak
- nastyflyergirl


Because Hakstol was still staring mercilessly at him. Radko was petrified.

In all seriousness, I've always like what Gudas brought: His physical play and his cannon of a shot. But he has always been a serious liability in his own end when the puck is on his stick. Failed clears, turnovers, bad icings. You can't pin the loss on him alone but 2 goals being directly related to Gudas gaffes is a momentum changer.

I'd be happy to see Myers and Morin up next year for the physical play. If Gudas gets the door to make room for them, I'm OK with that. I'd rather have a rookie learning the hard way not to do the failed clears, turnovers, and bad icings than have a veteran guy who is a constant liability with the puck in his own end.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Apr 22 @ 10:07 PM ET
8-5 Wow. Well at least you went down swinging punters. Coûts is now your best player I presume?
flyersfaninLA
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pacific Palisades, CA
Joined: 03.05.2010

Apr 22 @ 10:08 PM ET
Overall, I am VERY upbeat about the future of the Flyers.

Here is why:
1. I think Hexy is a smart GM and has others in the org who get the way the new world works with cap-ology INCLUDING Clarkie and even Homer.
2. We are LOADED with picks and prospects. We are one of the FEW teams that could pair two first rounders for something special. I personally like OEL from AZ to make a sick D. Note: he was a plus for the second 1/2 of the season on a DOORMAT of an AZ team and we have the money to pay him.
3. Our problem is in goal. Stolie has been screwed by circumstance and injury. No excuses but I could see him in a backup role next year. Cater Hart is the real deal but see point 1. Hexy is smart and wont rush him. We need him sooner than later.
4. We Have Letera and Filpula coming off the cap at close to 10m and 5m more reportedly being added to the ceiling. Our door is open. Now is the time to start getting real. A 3-line scoring threat team with at least 4 rock-solid D-men.
5. Ghost and Provo DRASTICALLY improved their plus minus this year and they are kids. Can Provo buy me a beer? I don't think so legally. Kids aren't supposed to lead the NHL in d-goals nor should the other one have like 70 points. We've never had it this good. Sanheim isn't chopped liver either as he could get us ANYTHING we want in trade and or develop into another killer on the blue line in time. Remember, these kids learn to score first and keep the puck out second.
6. I will admit I was a "trade Couts" guy ONLY to get a premium player. Now he's a premium player signed a premium price.
7. If cap room is needed, Gudas could be moved with a sweetener to a team that needs the ceiling. A-Mac not so much but he isn't as terrible to my eyes as the metric guys suggest.

I hate the Pens. They just happen to be a better team right now. They are a lousy franchise historically. They Flyers aren't. Their window will close soon. The Flyers is just opening.
flyersfaninLA
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pacific Palisades, CA
Joined: 03.05.2010

Apr 22 @ 10:09 PM ET
Kings 10 - Oilers 8. April 7, 82.
- RafiDRW


I ws 8 when that happened thus my point but thanks for helping me out on the history lesson!

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 22 @ 10:10 PM ET
I’ll be interested to hear Hextalls state of the team. I’m sure it will mostly be platitudes. Hoping the press can push him on the bottom six, what he intends to do with Gudas and Manning. What he plans on doing with Neuvy.
- bird_dog_pa


Hextall is not going to tip his hand. There is going to be an evaluation process and a strategy planned. I doubt that will be in place when he addresses the media in the near future.
flyersfaninLA
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pacific Palisades, CA
Joined: 03.05.2010

Apr 22 @ 10:11 PM ET
you are a Flyers fan and you accidentally found the game on satellite radio?
- nastyflyergirl


Have you ever been driving a 6 year old around town?

I didn't mean to hit station 5 (NHL Network on Sirius) NOR did I think the game would be on as I NEVER listen to NHL games on the radio. I watch them on the Center Ice Package - specifically the Flyers which I record.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 22 @ 10:11 PM ET
Overall, I am VERY upbeat about the future of the Flyers.

Here is why:
1. I think Hexy is a smart GM and has others in the org who get the way the new world works with cap-ology INCLUDING Clarkie and even Homer.
2. We are LOADED with picks and prospects. We are one of the FEW teams that could pair two first rounders for something special. I personally like OEL from AZ to make a sick D. Note: he was a plus for the second 1/2 of the season on a DOORMAT of an AZ team and we have the money to pay him.
3. Our problem is in goal. Stolie has been screwed by circumstance and injury. No excuses but I could see him in a backup role next year. Cater Hart is the real deal but see point 1. Hexy is smart and wont rush him. We need him sooner than later.
4. We Have Letera and Filpula coming off the cap at close to 10m and 5m more reportedly being added to the ceiling. Our door is open. Now is the time to start getting real. A 3-line scoring threat team with at least 4 rock-solid D-men.
5. Ghost and Provo DRASTICALLY improved their plus minus this year and they are kids. Can Provo buy me a beer? I don't think so legally. Kids aren't supposed to lead the NHL in d-goals nor should the other one have like 70 points. We've never had it this good. Sanheim isn't chopped liver either as he could get us ANYTHING we want in trade and or develop into another killer on the blue line in time. Remember, these kids learn to score first and keep the puck out second.
6. I will admit I was a "trade Couts" guy ONLY to get a premium player. Now he's a premium player signed a premium price.
7. If cap room is needed, Gudas could be moved with a sweetener to a team that needs the ceiling. A-Mac not so much but he isn't as terrible to my eyes as the metric guys suggest.

I hate the Pens. They just happen to be a better team right now. They are a lousy franchise historically. They Flyers aren't. Their window will close soon. The Flyers is just opening.

- flyersfaninLA


Lehtera is signed for one more season.
flyersfaninLA
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pacific Palisades, CA
Joined: 03.05.2010

Apr 22 @ 10:13 PM ET
Lehtera is signed for one more season.
- MJL


Are you sure? We took on 3 years of this stiff? I thought it was last year and this one.

Whatever. Buy him out. I'd rather play a kid and let him grow into the role like Giroux and Couts.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 22 @ 10:17 PM ET
Are you sure? We took on 3 years of this stiff? I thought it was last year and this one.

Whatever. Buy him out. I'd rather play a kid and let him grow into the role like Giroux and Couts.

- flyersfaninLA


they took on two years, this and next. Read is a UFA as well saving 3,625,000
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Apr 22 @ 10:17 PM ET
Hextall is not going to tip his hand. There is going to be an evaluation process and a strategy planned. I doubt that will be in place when he addresses the media in the near future.
- MJL



Obviously he’s not going to name names but there will be things said that will give an idea of what he’s thinking. I’m sure we will hear if we can improve our team we will do what we can for now and the long term blah blah blah.
If he comments on needing more speed etc then I would hope he wants to revamp bottom 6.
Of course it will be all speculation by HB and such until we see actual moves.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 22 @ 10:17 PM ET
Are you sure? We took on 3 years of this stiff? I thought it was last year and this one.

Whatever. Buy him out. I'd rather play a kid and let him grow into the role like Giroux and Couts.

- flyersfaninLA


I'm positive. Let a kid come up and win the job.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 22 @ 10:19 PM ET
Obviously he’s not going to name names but there will be things said that will give an idea of what he’s thinking. I’m sure we will hear if we can improve our team we will do what we can for now and the long term blah blah blah.
If he comments on needing more speed etc then I would hope he wants to revamp bottom 6.
Of course it will be all speculation by HB and such until we see actual moves.

- bird_dog_pa


In terms of generalizations I think we already know what he is thinking. I don't see him moving from his core philosophy of building through the draft. I think we all know what areas they need to get better in.
Lawless18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.30.2014

Apr 22 @ 10:23 PM ET
Has any team ever in playoff history given up 8 goals and won the game? I can't think of one time that's worked.

We are trying to sell our house near the beach in LA (think: about a mile above the Baywatch beach for those old enough to remember). I accidentally hit button 5 on my sat radio and the game came on and it was 4-4 after two. poop. I needed to kill about three hours before I could go home to watch the epic win right? After letting my 6 year old drive the golf cart all over Riviera CC while we played about 4 holes in no specific order, I got the urge to check my phone. Then I got the urge to puke.

You can't give up 8 goals and expect anything other than to lose in the playoffs. Sorry.

- flyersfaninLA


Nobody cares where your house is or the fact you belong to a cc. Stick to the topic of hockey.
flyersfaninLA
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pacific Palisades, CA
Joined: 03.05.2010

Apr 22 @ 10:29 PM ET
they took on two years, this and next. Read is a UFA as well saving 3,625,000
- nastyflyergirl


OK - thanks for adding that. He's dead weight too. Good bye.
flyersfaninLA
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pacific Palisades, CA
Joined: 03.05.2010

Apr 22 @ 10:30 PM ET
I'm positive. Let a kid come up and win the job.
- MJL


I agree with you and I think Hexy will too.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Apr 22 @ 10:33 PM ET
No. No more band aids. Its time Sanhiem, Hagg & Morin fill these roles.
- hereticpride


Yep, go young. It's time for the pups in the minors to come up and move this thing forwrd another notch.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Apr 22 @ 10:34 PM ET
Nobody cares where your house is or the fact you belong to a cc. Stick to the topic of hockey.
- Lawless18




I'm still pissed from the game too.
IvanBrovorov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.07.2017

Apr 22 @ 10:35 PM ET
Nobody cares where your house is or the fact you belong to a cc. Stick to the topic of hockey.
- Lawless18


Lol right? I spent the pregame yelling at my wife for not holding the ladder properly as I tried to get off the roof of our rancher the gutters don’t clean themselves outside of riviera CC.
flyersfaninLA
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pacific Palisades, CA
Joined: 03.05.2010

Apr 22 @ 10:35 PM ET
Nobody cares where your house is or the fact you belong to a cc. Stick to the topic of hockey.
- Lawless18


Sorry for sharing details of my life today. I didn't see the posted rule "never share a detail of your life on this forum or jealous trolls will malign you"

You should root for every Philly boy (or girl, or NastyGirl...for that matter) to do well. Do you not want me to tell you which NHL players I get to play golf with next?
flyersfaninLA
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pacific Palisades, CA
Joined: 03.05.2010

Apr 22 @ 10:37 PM ET
Lol right? I spent the pregame yelling at my wife for not holding the ladder properly as I tried to get off the roof of our rancher the gutters don’t clean themselves outside of riviera CC.
- IvanBrovorov


We don't have seasons thus there's no need to clean gutters of leaves. Moreover, I had mesh installed over my gutters which nicely keep crap out of them but lets rain into them on the RARE event that it rains in LA.
IvanBrovorov
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.07.2017

Apr 22 @ 10:38 PM ET
Sorry for sharing details of my life today. I didn't see the posted rule "never share a detail of your life on this forum or jealous trolls will malign you"

You should root for every Philly boy (or girl, or NastyGirl...for that matter) to do well. Do you not want me to tell you which NHL players I get to play golf with next?

- flyersfaninLA


For sure let us know how the house sale goes. Smh.
bigdaddywaite
Joined: 01.15.2008

Apr 22 @ 10:43 PM ET
Overall, I am VERY upbeat about the future of the Flyers.

Here is why:
1. I think Hexy is a smart GM and has others in the org who get the way the new world works with cap-ology INCLUDING Clarkie and even Homer.
2. We are LOADED with picks and prospects. We are one of the FEW teams that could pair two first rounders for something special. I personally like OEL from AZ to make a sick D. Note: he was a plus for the second 1/2 of the season on a DOORMAT of an AZ team and we have the money to pay him.
3. Our problem is in goal. Stolie has been screwed by circumstance and injury. No excuses but I could see him in a backup role next year. Cater Hart is the real deal but see point 1. Hexy is smart and wont rush him. We need him sooner than later.
4. We Have Letera and Filpula coming off the cap at close to 10m and 5m more reportedly being added to the ceiling. Our door is open. Now is the time to start getting real. A 3-line scoring threat team with at least 4 rock-solid D-men.
5. Ghost and Provo DRASTICALLY improved their plus minus this year and they are kids. Can Provo buy me a beer? I don't think so legally. Kids aren't supposed to lead the NHL in d-goals nor should the other one have like 70 points. We've never had it this good. Sanheim isn't chopped liver either as he could get us ANYTHING we want in trade and or develop into another killer on the blue line in time. Remember, these kids learn to score first and keep the puck out second.
6. I will admit I was a "trade Couts" guy ONLY to get a premium player. Now he's a premium player signed a premium price.
7. If cap room is needed, Gudas could be moved with a sweetener to a team that needs the ceiling. A-Mac not so much but he isn't as terrible to my eyes as the metric guys suggest.

I hate the Pens. They just happen to be a better team right now. They are a lousy franchise historically. They Flyers aren't. Their window will close soon. The Flyers is just opening.

- flyersfaninLA
five Stanley cups begs to differ with you. The flyers havent been relevant in 30 years. Your point is ridiculous
flyersfaninLA
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pacific Palisades, CA
Joined: 03.05.2010

Apr 22 @ 10:45 PM ET
For sure let us know how the house sale goes. Smh.
- IvanBrovorov


poopty so far. 74 days on the market and no offers. Everything else is selling or in escrow.

The house has everything a Flyers fan could want. I love redoing houses out here but I think the real estate market has a come-up-ance coming soon. A buddy of mine from CHA (fill in hate for my private school education next) who lives in a VERY nice CT area near New Caanan hasn't sold a house (his wife is an agent) in a year. Donald SH*THOLE's" so-called tax cuts have made 1%-percenters in non-Trump-voting Blue States suck it. We don't have good enough lobbyists, I guess. Scary however.

Maybe I can buy again on the next dip. CBS News reports 10/11/18 will mark the longest BOOM economy EVER in US history. Real estate has BOOMED since late 09. That's a long time. Nothing goes up 20% per year EVERY YEAR just like NO TEAM stays competitive in a cap world EVERY YEAR. Windows open. Windows close. The Flyers window is VERY OPEN. Can the Rangers say that? I don't think so (it felt good to crap on the Rangers there for a second)....
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