Kadri, Gardiner, a 1st and probably a 2nd or perhaps another 1st....IF the Leafs got Tavares
- AngryWhiteMale

Doubt they'd take Kadri over Nylander if they rebuild, they'll want younger players and they are giving up Doughty so they'll want something legit in return.

Nylander, Marner and Reilly are untouchable.

If we got JT I'd even think of moving Matthews to PHX for OEL+++
- AngryWhiteMale

Nylander, Marner and Rielly are untouchable but Matthews can be traded for OEL?

Doubt they'd take Kadri over Nylander if they rebuild, they'll want younger players and they are giving up Doughty so they'll want something legit in return.
- Unholy_Goalie

They wouldn't take Kadri over Nylander. I agree.

But we're not exactly in a crunch or anything. We don't NEED Doughty, and despite what I said about us needing a stud it'd be worth waiting to sign him then actually giving up good assets.

I think Matthews to PHX would be something we could do because PHX would overpay to the point where we would be stupid not to.

If Drew Doughty is "available", and the Leafs, by some miracle, sign Tavares, would you trade Nylander, 1st round pick etc. for Doughty?

Matthews at 10 million, Tavares at 10 million, Doughty at 10 million, Marner at 7 or 8 million...worth it?

Should be an easy yes, right?
- Unholy_Goalie

I'd be worried to trade that much for a player that will hit free agency and possibly go elsewhere after one more season.

In my world, traps are the best.



GreatGigInTheSky will understand what I mean by “traps.”
- Steven_Seagull

Oh bird.

I'd be worried to trade that much for a player that will hit free agency and possibly go elsewhere after one more season.
- Thecakeisalie

Well thank goodness sign-and-trades are commonplace in the NHL then!

They wouldn't take Kadri over Nylander. I agree.

But we're not exactly in a crunch or anything. We don't NEED Doughty, and despite what I said about us needing a stud it'd be worth waiting to sign him then actually giving up good assets
- AngryWhiteMale

Leafs are definitely in a crunch to find a legit #1 D when you consider how infrequently they become available.

Funny thing about Doughty is he's already publicly said living under the microscope in Toronto isn't something he'd enjoy so signing as a UFA is pretty unlikely. But, if you get him in a trade, now you can offer him an 8 year deal, which is more money than anybody else can offer him. Now, maybe he reconsiders and wants to stay. So boiled down, the only way you might be able to get him is to acquire him in a trade. Obviously, everybody wants to get him for free but this isn't NHL18 and it doesn't always go that way.

I'd be worried to trade that much for a player that will hit free agency and possibly go elsewhere after one more season.
- Thecakeisalie

Obviously you'd have an extension worked out with Doughty before the deal is done. No point in getting him for 1 year.

I think Matthews to PHX would be something we could do because PHX would overpay to the point where we would be stupid not to.
- AngryWhiteMale

They've sucked for years and don't care. I doubt they'd overpay that badly for something they can get for free by tanking for a few years, which they'll do anyway.

Oh bird.
- Thecakeisalie

Well thank goodness sign-and-trades are commonplace in the NHL then!
- markmark

I prefer trade-and-signs.

Obviously you'd have an extension worked out with Doughty before the deal is done. No point in getting him for 1 year.
- Unholy_Goalie

I'd be sad to lose Nylander, but if that trade, or something like it, secured Doughty for the next 8-9 years, then I don't see how anyone could turn down that trade from a Leafs standpoint.

Especially if we'd already signed Tavares somehow.

They wouldn't take Kadri over Nylander. I agree.

But we're not exactly in a crunch or anything. We don't NEED Doughty, and despite what I said about us needing a stud it'd be worth waiting to sign him then actually giving up good assets.

I think Matthews to PHX would be something we could do because PHX would overpay to the point where we would be stupid not to.
- AngryWhiteMale

lol

Leafs are definitely in a crunch to find a legit #1 D when you consider how infrequently they become available.

Funny thing about Doughty is he's already publicly said living under the microscope in Toronto isn't something he'd enjoy so signing as a UFA is pretty unlikely. But, if you get him in a trade, now you can offer him an 8 year deal, which is more money than anybody else can offer him. Now, maybe he reconsiders and wants to stay. So boiled down, the only way you might be able to get him is to acquire him in a trade. Obviously, everybody wants to get him for free but this isn't NHL18 and it doesn't always go that way.
- Unholy_Goalie

So your plan is to give up a poopload of assets for a guy who becomes a UFA in 1 year and has already stated he doesn't want to play in Toronto?

You'd better delete this post before Uggie reads it - he's going to go into complete douchebag mode telling you how stupid this idea is.

And he will be right.

So your plan is to give up a poopload of assets for a guy who becomes a UFA in 1 year and has already stated he doesn't want to play in Toronto?

You'd better delete this post before Uggie reads it - he's going to go into complete douchebag mode telling you how stupid this idea is.

And he will be right.
- Atomic Wedgie

Uh oh

I'd be sad to lose Nylander, but if that trade, or something like it, secured Doughty for the next 8-9 years, then I don't see how anyone could turn down that trade from a Leafs standpoint.
- Thecakeisalie

Especially if they can sign Tavares. Or even Kane to replace the offense.

Uh oh
- Corn_Logg

*grabs popcorn*

So your plan is to give up a poopload of assets for a guy who becomes a UFA in 1 year and has already stated he doesn't want to play in Toronto?

You'd better delete this post before Uggie reads it - he's going to go into complete douchebag mode telling you how stupid this idea is.

And he will be right.
- Atomic Wedgie

Not very good at reading all the details.

They've sucked for years and don't care. I doubt they'd overpay that badly for something they can get for free by tanking for a few years, which they'll do anyway.
- Unholy_Goalie

2 interesting things for AZ in the offseason.

i) domi may be traded

ii) what they do if they get dahlin.

they need at least 2 scoring forwards and have oel and chychurn on the left side. one may get moved.

Not very good at reading all the details.
- Unholy_Goalie

Your details came later - and they were still illogical.

By the way, just because the Leafs can offer him an 8-year deal, it in no way means that he can't get more money elsewhere.

So your plan is to give up a poopload of assets for a guy who becomes a UFA in 1 year and has already stated he doesn't want to play in Toronto?

You'd better delete this post before Uggie reads it - he's going to go into complete douchebag mode telling you how stupid this idea is.

And he will be right.
- Atomic Wedgie

Poor Unholy_Goalie. UG is going to tear him apart.

2 interesting things for AZ in the offseason.

i) domi may be traded

ii) what they do if they get dahlin.

they need at least 2 scoring forwards and have oel and chychurn on the left side. one may get moved.
- Tumbleweed

Domi's value is low.

I'd say the more interesting thing this offseason is the financial stability of the club.

Or lack thereof...

Poor Unholy_Goalie. UG is going to tear him apart.
- Thecakeisalie

UG couldn’t tear a wet paper bag

Domi's value is low.

I'd say the more interesting thing this offseason is the financial stability of the club.

Or lack thereof...
- Atomic Wedgie

Coyotes moving to Kitchener. S3

Domi's value is low.

I'd say the more interesting thing this offseason is the financial stability of the club.

Or lack thereof...
- Atomic Wedgie

they survived last payroll and will be getting their season ticket money in for the summer. i assume they'll be ok for at least another ..... 8 months or so.