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Forums :: Blog World :: Mike Augello: Can Toronto tame the bear and even the series?? Game 4 - Leafs vs. Bruins
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Rang
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.21.2006

Apr 20 @ 9:31 AM ET
Andersen MVP



(for the Bruins)

- MaximusAurelius


I took a lot of abuse on this site when I said in February /March my biggest concern was that Anderson was not a "money" goaltender.
He is an average number 1 goalie in my view, and in this series below average except for one period in game 3.
We needed a big save on one of those 2 on 1s and we didn't get it. His body position was not great on either. The first goal cannot go in either.
We need to acquire someone who can push him, or give Sparks another chance next year.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 20 @ 9:32 AM ET
I took a lot of abuse on this site when I said in February /March my biggest concern was that Anderson was not a "money" goaltender.
He is an average number 1 goalie in my view, and in this series below average except for one period in game 3.
We needed a big save on one of those 2 on 1s and we didn't get it. His body position was not great on either. The first one cannot go in.
We need to acquire someone who can push him, or give Sparks another chance next year.

- Rang


We didn't play well enough to win...regardless of Freddie...1st one sucked, the other 2 he was hung out.
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Apr 20 @ 9:33 AM ET
Chara factor...and nobody is trying to get under his skin makes it way too easy for him to play 1/2 the game.
- Garnie


Why? That's just playing right into Bostons hands. We tried the "Bang up every Bruin You See" approach in the first two games and we were 20x worse than the last two games.
The team lacks agression, I guess, but I could hardly give two (frank)s. We're not losing because we're smaller. The dress Martin campaign is grotesque. We're losing because our compete isn't high enough.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 20 @ 9:33 AM ET
Nylander and Matthews were expected to dominate in this series. To me, that's where the Leafs are failing.
- Symba007


Pretty sure Matthews is injured.

Nylander has looked more than underwhelming thus far.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Apr 20 @ 9:33 AM ET
Dude! Our hating hours are over. What the hell?
- RickJames77


My bad... I got caught up in the emotion
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Apr 20 @ 9:34 AM ET
I took a lot of abuse on this site when I said in February /March my biggest concern was that Anderson was not a "money" goaltender.
He is an average number 1 goalie in my view, and in this series below average except for one period in game 3.
We needed a big save on one of those 2 on 1s and we didn't get it. His body position was not great on either. The first goal cannot go in either.
We need to acquire someone who can push him, or give Sparks another chance next year.

- Rang


Since Leafs traded for Andersen, I have been saying he is a just an average nhl goalie.

Some people in here seem to think he is Hasek v2.0 though
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Apr 20 @ 9:34 AM ET
It wasn't a terrible pinch. It was a poor result. The puck was bouncing. The Leafs were pressing and a tired Boston group on the. They wanted to press the opportunity. I would be pretty sure the coaching staff would have agreed with that pinch.

We've become so conditioned to Gardiner doing stupid things that a bad result can reflect on him poorly. He played a good game. I don't blame him for that decision. Lots of very successful NHL teams give up 2 on 1s against, but their defense have a clue as to how to take away the pass.

Frankly, I don't think the Leafs are a team built to sit back - they don't have the defense for it, they don't hem, they don't have strong board presence, and they don't get away with the crap that established defenseman can, so they simply don't force turnovers that well. They win through offense, so they will have to take these gambles until they can round out their back end.

- Monkeypunk



I agree we don't have the defense to sit back on leads, but that was more on Gardiner. A bouncing puck, with Pastrnak bearing down on you; It was a bad idea to pinch at that moment.

Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Apr 20 @ 9:35 AM ET
Pretty sure Matthews is injured.

Nylander has looked more than underwhelming thus far.

- Scabeh


Nylander just decided to give the Leafs a serious hometown discount on his contract. 4.5 million for 8 years. (I wish)
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: #FireDubas
Joined: 04.23.2012

Apr 20 @ 9:36 AM ET
Nylander just decided to give the Leafs a serious hometown discount on his contract. 4.5 million for 8 years. (I wish)
- Aaron_85


the team he will be traded to will like that contract
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Apr 20 @ 9:38 AM ET
I agree we don't have the defense to sit back on leads, but that was more on Gardiner. A bouncing puck, with Pastrnak bearing down on you; It was a bad idea to pinch at that moment.
- PatC80


I don't think so, and I don't think Babs would agree either. They were on the ice for over a minute and Gardiner wanted to keep the pressure on. He had the right idea.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Apr 20 @ 9:38 AM ET
the team he will be traded to will like that contract
- MaximusAurelius


Too early to trade him, but he really hasnt had a great year
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Apr 20 @ 9:38 AM ET
the team he will be traded to will like that contract
- MaximusAurelius


So glad Nylander isn't going anywhere
Rang
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.21.2006

Apr 20 @ 9:40 AM ET
Since Leafs traded for Andersen, I have been saying he is a just an average nhl goalie.

Some people in here seem to think he is Hasek v2.0 though

- MaximusAurelius


Anderson's save percentage in this series: .880
Tukka Rask: .926

Any mystery as to why we are losing the series? To me the only game we have truly been dominated was game 1.
He has just not been nearly good enough.
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Apr 20 @ 9:40 AM ET
Too early to trade him, but he really hasnt had a great year
- Archaic


Holy poop I picked a bad time to come in here. 60 points is only a bad year if you expected 100 from him. Just because he didn't live up to your personal expectations doesn't mean he's a bad player. It was his second year in the NHL for christ sakes, and people want to trade him because he's not good enough? Only sixty points. Not good enough. (frank) off.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Apr 20 @ 9:41 AM ET
Why do all of leaf fans cheerios taste funny this morning?
- spazzbot



yes but in a good way they since its 4-20 today.


Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Apr 20 @ 9:42 AM ET
Anderson's save percentage in this series: .880
Tukka Rask: .926

Any mystery as to why we are losing the series? To me the only game we have truly been dominated was game 1.
He has just not been nearly good enough.

- Rang

not fair to blame it all on Ander5on, the leafs D takes a lot of chances and gives very good scoring chances.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Apr 20 @ 9:42 AM ET
Are we just going to forgive Gardiner?
- PatC80


For the pinch or not getting the puck deep into the B's o-zone?
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Apr 20 @ 9:43 AM ET
Nylander and Matthews were expected to dominate in this series. To me, that's where the Leafs are failing.
- Symba007



If leafs did NOT play a physical team
Matthews and nylander would DOMINATE
they are NO match for heavy physical BEATINGS


leafs would do better against lightning
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 20 @ 9:44 AM ET
Why? That's just playing right into Bostons hands. We tried the "Bang up every Bruin You See" approach in the first two games and we were 20x worse than the last two games.
The team lacks agression, I guess, but I could hardly give two (frank)s. We're not losing because we're smaller. The dress Martin campaign is grotesque. We're losing because our compete isn't high enough.

- UsernameUnknown



Did I mention Martin? I said zip about bringing in Martin...need the players in the lineup to do more then just skate around....need to bang their D every chance...just like every other team seems to be doing in the PO's.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 20 @ 9:44 AM ET
Nylander just decided to give the Leafs a serious hometown discount on his contract. 4.5 million for 8 years. (I wish)
- Aaron_85


Well it might end up helping signing him for cheaper than his potential value.

But I must say, unlike Marner for exemple, his showing in the playoffs, despite playing with Matthews.... I don't like it.

Then again, could also be the inexperience and he'll bounce back next season.
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Apr 20 @ 9:45 AM ET
not fair to blame it all on Ander5on, the leafs D takes a lot of chances and gives very good scoring chances.
- Symba007


The Leafs got a lot of good scoring chances too though, the only difference is Boston buries theirs and Toronto doesn't. Good scoring chances or not, the goalie needs to come up with a save to help their team out. Andersen did that IMO in game 3, and game 3 only. There were a lot of scoring chances for Boston (more than game 4, it seemed) but he made a lot of good saves.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Apr 20 @ 9:46 AM ET
The 2nd goal was all on Gardiner. Terrible pinch. Pastrnak fooled zaitsev with the fakes shot then pass, cause thats what good players like Pastrnak do.
- PatC80

nah it's all on Gardiner or Zaitsev, it's both of them. You can also add Matthews to it as well.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 20 @ 9:46 AM ET
Well it might end up helping signing him for cheaper than his potential value.

But I must say, unlike Marner for exemple, his showing in the playoffs, despite playing with Matthews.... I don't like it.

Then again, could also be the inexperience and he'll bounce back next season.

- Scabeh


I could see him being traded for a D ( Nylander )
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Apr 20 @ 9:46 AM ET
The Leafs got a lot of good scoring chances too though, the only difference is Boston buries theirs and Toronto doesn't. Good scoring chances or not, the goalie needs to come up with a save to help their team out. Andersen did that IMO in game 3, and game 3 only. There were a lot of scoring chances for Boston (more than game 4, it seemed) but he made a lot of good saves.
- UsernameUnknown

he was good and very lucky in game 3
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Apr 20 @ 9:46 AM ET
I could see him being traded for a D ( Nylander )
- Garnie

Agreed, for someone like Alzner to help solidify the Leafs D group
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